Posted on 10/04/2007 9:44:30 PM PDT by janetjanet998
I will just go to offshore file servers.....like ‘all of MP3.com’....
Chase me around then big talker.....
I will never pay American record companies for music again in my lifetime.....
And you corporate scammers will have no recourse......
Enjoy making your buggy whips....
The greedy record companies have stolen more from artists than downloaders ever could.....
There are a total of 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses. The RIAA and associated royalties organizations will never have bought control and legal standing over enough of the network to stop filesharing. The only way to return to the good old days was recently demonstrated, the Burmese junta closed down all internet communications in Burma.
Dell.com is now shipping sub-$700 PCs with over a terrabyte of hdd space. Consumers need content to fill that space. Within a year or two the point will be moot, torrent traffic will make up 90%+ of all internet traffic.
you sound like the LA times and other media sueing FR...we are not going to go to their website or order their paper..if it’s posted here we will read it...
Great, cupcake. When I find out what you do, I’ll come boycott it, I promise. Or worse, I’ll steal it and give it away to thieving ingrates, like you do. Now, listen carefully, when I get around to having meaning conversations with THIEVES, I’ll be sure to give you a call, thief. See you at your slushie machine gig at the 7-11, which I will boycott.
“Excuse the heck out of me, but you guys sound like the Kos Kids whining over oil company profits. The woman is a convicted THIEF, the judge chose to give her a penalty for EACH of her offenses. If you like the music, buy the music. If you don’t like the music, or think it is too expensive, keep your money. I did not know that I had thrown in with thief sympathizers. How would you all feel if I stole something from you, just because I could? Some of us ARE in the music biz, and these damned file sharing sites are KILLING us, understand me? Which is a damn shame because there are LAWS that supposedly protect us, and FOR ONCE they are being enforced. If you all would steal music, what ELSE would you steal? Answer me that one, you pile of crooks!”
I work in the music industry, and everyone I know who’s a musician pretty much doesnt care, because they don’t make squat from record sales anyway, and NONE of the money received by the RIAA has made it into musicians hands. Don’t even get me started. I know of a lot of bands who are looking into releasing music separate from the RIAA/big label stranglehold that exists today - look at Radiohead, they just put their album online, and you pay what you want- if at all.
Most artists these days realize there is NO money in record sales, and not just because of file sharing, mostly it’s because of the 97/3% split they have to sign to when they deal with a label, and their real income source is touring and merchandise and publishing. Most artists know that the RIAA is not suing for them, they’re suing for large conglomerates who want to charge you every time you hear a musical note. Artists realize an album is a marketing tool to sell tickets and t-shirts. More and more bands I know and work with DO NOT WANT to be signed to RIAA member labels, period, because they know it’s essentially indebted servitude.
The big label’s are pretty much killing the golden goose. I don’t care so much about the fate of the woman involved, but I do have SERIOUS issues with some of the failures in due process that occured in this case, I am VERY concerned with the case law it will be used to establish, and I am INFURIATED by the comments by the Sony CEO that ripping a cd I bought legally to my iPod is *stealing*. INFURIATED.
It’s just effing music. I don’t want nor need a law book thrown in the bag when I buy a cd, nor do i need to surrender my civil rights because the RIAA - who are scumbags anyway - THINK I’ might have shared music - and then possibly get steamrolled like this woman was. They did NOT prove she had done what they claimed. Granted, her case was shaky at best, but we all are guaranteed due process, it is not lost when the RIAA comes knocking.
And one important point - she was not sued for *stealing* a damed thing. She was sued for SHARING her music. Her ownership was never at question, and was not an issue in this case, and it’s a very important distinction. This was a case of copyright infringement, and thus a civil matter, NOT theft, which is a criminal matter.
If you want to see real thieves, read a major lable record contract. I have, from Geffen, Atlantic, and Warner Brothers. Talk to the musicians I know who have lost rights and income to the bloodsuckers at the major labels.
Having said all that, anyone who uses file sharing apps, be it Napster, or bit-torrent, or whatever, is stupid beyond comprehension until this greedy insanity ends.
I know, however, after hearing the idiotic statements from that moron from Sony, that I won’t be buying ANYTHING Sony, ever again, or as long as she and the rest of her ilk still work there. That goes beyond this case, I have had it with the likes of Sony accusing me of stealing anything. I am also done buying anything from the members of the RIAA, and I will not work with them anymore in my career. That’s how strongly i feel that they are making a huge mistake and are completely out of control, and i won’t take their blood money for my hard work. I’m writing letters to all of the ceo’s of the RIAA member companies, telling them I’m not ever buying a product from them ever again, as it’s too risky to be their customer now, nor willI work with them. I will also tell the bands they represent the same, and why.
I’m going to be taking a huge hit to my career by walking away from anything to do with the scumbags at the RIAA, but this is now MY principles. Rant all you want about thieves, but i know the real thieves here, and I won’t waste my time or talent with them anymore.
I used to love the music industry, and still do, when it comes to the people who actually do the work - the performers, the technical folk, and some managers. The rest? Eff ‘em. I’m sick to my stomach at this garbage, and I’m done with it, and them.
The ridiculous justifications people use to try and justify their stealing can be pretty hilarious. Wouldn’t have bought it anyway, the RIAA are scumbags, the music industry is corrupt, therefore..
I’m justified in being a thief. Pathetic.
And I realize it has damaged the music industry greatly.
you better not post any stories on FR then....thief
“And one important point - she was not sued for *stealing* a damed thing. She was sued for SHARING her music.”
She was sued for illegal downloading and illegal sharing copyrighted music.
And I’m not sure “sharing” is a term found in the law, even though it’s in this article. It might well be termed copyright infringement. But if she was “sharing” it was illegal “sharing”.
“I am 45 and I am an artist. You steal my stuff, I can come after you. I have the law on my side. What do you have? You got a bucket of spit. This moronic woman could have settled for a few thousand bucks. But, no. She had to fight it in court. Nice move, chump. Pay up.”
You might be 45, but you don’t know what the #$@# you’re talking about.
She was not sued for stealing a damned thing.
I’ll repeat that.
She was not sued for stealing a damned thing.
She was sued in a civil matter over copyright violations for allegedly SHARING music.
There’s an important distinctuion there.
If you are signed to a major label, you have no grounds to go after anyone, Sparky, because the material will be released under the label’s copyright, not yours. This is the foundation of everything the RIAA does, without it, they would have no standing to be doing what they are.
How long have you been in the business?
Looks like the bucket of spit is in your hands, there, Sparky, you might want to go research the matter a little harder.
I don’t promote file sharing, but the issue could be dealt with in much better ways than the RIAA is pursuing, and it will be their undoing, eventually. You can rant and insult and accuse all you want, but some of us IN THE INDUSTRY are very concerned, not for the people sharing music, but for the bigger picture.
But you go ahead and rant and rave and alienate your audience all you want - far bigger careers have been lost for far less. Your career is your own, tread lightly. Champion the RIAA all you want, but I won’t buy anything they have to sell ever again, as long as this is their business model, and that includes whatever material you allegedly have to offer. Sorry, but I have these nagging things called principles.
well then..i guess you’ll just pop a blood vessel when people start using the anonymous, p2p, sharing networks... no real way to track it.
i guess maybe, just maybe, people are tired of crappy music being held for ransom for $15-20 per CD... which cost at most $100k to create/distribute and $0.20/CD to replicate
basically, the music industry needs to find a better business model. of course, one has already been found... and its the RIAAs job to keep it from coming into its full potential.
personally, i haven’t bothered to obtain music in any form since the late 90s. (and i’ve radically dropped my movie attendance... from 40+/year in the 90s to less then 10/year now)
the entertainment industry really needs to stop crying in their over priced soup and start making better product
“you better not post any stories on FR then....thief”
A fairly typical and vacuous one-liner. Care to put some meaning to your ramblings?
I illegally copied the AP story and illegally shared it with you...
you knowing it was illegal just read it..
and we have just cost yahoo/AP fractions of pennies in ad revenue
thief
“She was sued in a civil matter over copyright violations for allegedly SHARING music.”
Actually, I think she was sued for copyright infringement for having illegally downloaded and illegally distributed copyrighted music.
Do you think “sharing” is a term used in the code?
Semantics. I’ll come steal your car and call it “borrowing”. Would that make it OK? The convict made it possible for thousands/millions to STEAL the music. Call it what you wish, it is, yes, copyright infringement, and yes, that is NOT legal, and yes, if you want to test your luck over something as dumb as this, when it is possible to pay next to nothing for the music you love on line, go ahead. Now, if you want to change the law, go ahead. Meanwhile, I can sue your tail in to penury if I catch you, and yes, I am looking all the time. This is just normal business, welcome to Capitalism. (I thought there were Capitalists on this site...) Now, I am not looking for the kid in the basement, I am looking for precisely what this woman did. She is just the first of many coming cases, let’s see how many of you chime in after a few dozen of your butts are sitting in jail, with the rest of the...
THIEVES!
“And one important point - she was not sued for *stealing* a damed thing. She was sued for SHARING her music.”
“She was sued for illegal downloading and illegal sharing copyrighted music.
And I’m not sure “sharing” is a term found in the law, even though it’s in this article. It might well be termed copyright infringement. But if she was “sharing” it was illegal “sharing”.”
I havent seen anything in the case documents to indicate she was sued for downloading, she was sued because the RIAA or their agents found the material available (ie “shared) at her IP address. This case was not to determine theft, nor is the RIAA claiming theft.
Sure is. She thought she could steal without consequence.
Trying to see how silly you can be? Reading on the internet makes one a thief?
Whatever, I’m not clear just what is or isn’t a copyright violation on the internet. They put the articles out there and know they will be read and linked. And they do want traffic. Not sure about copying entire articles to other sites. But since all I do is read columns I’m not worried about it.
But if it is illegal, FR might have an issue with you.
Ditto that.
do you know how file sharing works? What this woman did was very minor(28 songs)
They are if you distribute them to other thieves who download them from your archives.
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