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It’s a Crime Problem - Not a Gun Problem – in Philadelphia
vanity | 10-5-07 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 10/05/2007 5:19:04 AM PDT by William Tell 2

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1 posted on 10/05/2007 5:19:10 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2

This explains Eagles fans.


2 posted on 10/05/2007 5:28:40 AM PDT by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: William Tell 2

And please don’t mention crime statistics per race here either - nobody wants to know.


3 posted on 10/05/2007 5:30:58 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: William Tell 2
My daughter just moved to Philadelphia for grad school at UPenn. Her second week there she and some other people she was with witnessed a van with about 5 guys in it repeatedly try to run someone over. I guess they will have to get rid of vehicles too. She is relieved by the fact that there hasn't been a murder on her block in two years.
4 posted on 10/05/2007 5:40:45 AM PDT by stayathomemom
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To: stayathomemom

Pennsylvania is a shall issue state. If she doesn’t already have one, she ought to get a carry permit and start packing.


5 posted on 10/05/2007 5:49:03 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: William Tell 2
It seemed for a few weeks the city tried to blame the problem on us folks that live outside the city and our guns. That they couldn't control the problem because of all the guns in the suburbs being stolen and sold in the city for drugs.

I guess they realized that if there was guns and drugs outside the city too, why weren't we shooting the towns up like the Wild West?

This article puts the blame where it belongs and that is too uncomfortable for them to admit. Better to find an outside scapegoat.

6 posted on 10/05/2007 5:49:53 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: stayathomemom

I lived in SE PA for 29 years and still own property in Valley Forge.

That area is - as far as I’m concerned - a cesspool.

I was visting a student there and watched a charming citizen take a dump on the sidewalk in broad daylight.

In 29 years, I always hated to go to philly.
They used to have good cheese steaks once, before they discovered cheese whiz.


7 posted on 10/05/2007 6:06:11 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: libstripper

Are you sure? I tried to get one once, and the process was pretty exclusive to LE officers.


8 posted on 10/05/2007 6:07:30 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: BallyBill

If you read my novel “ A Sense of Duty” ( available at Barnesandnoble.com and Amazon.com), you will see that I address - in a fictitious way - many of the problems that hamper law enforcement in Philadelphia.

Although fiction, the scenes are derived from my experiences as a police officer in Philadelphia.

So, while I hope it is entertaining, I also hope to enlighten people about police work in Philly ( and elsewhere). Bestselling author WEB Griffin - who wrote a series of novels set in Philadelphia and about the Philly PD - said “A Sense of Duty” provides an insight about law enforcement.

I think if you read it, you would have a better understanding of the criminal justice system in Philadelphia and why the politicians who blame guns for the carnage are just engaging in political theater.

(Thanks for permitting me to plug my novel.)


9 posted on 10/05/2007 6:13:01 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2
Liberals believe in the "evil gun" theory whereby the mere presence of firearms turns normally pacifistic Gandhis into raging, murderous psychopaths. There was even a movie (Lady Blue?) made with those ideas in mind. Ron Silver, playing an average citizen, discovered a handgun in the aftermath of a failed robbery and suddenly he just couldn't help himself. He had to go around shooting people BECAUSE THE EVIL GUN MADE HIM DO IT!!! Libs actually believe those things.

If guns made people murderous pyschopaths, then my area of Wisconsin would be leading the nation in murders. There's tons of guns in Wisconsin. Not including Milwaukee or Madison. The crime rate here is as low as you'll find in many countries where guns are strictly controlled. It's the person that does the crime, not the gun.

10 posted on 10/05/2007 6:59:04 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: William Tell 2
Thanks for posting. I'll be sure to read your book.

It's not the guns who are out of control, it's the politicians and their enablers. What you point out so well is in large measure the result of the scourge of Liberal corruption and the utter failure of their policies which have allowed - nay, encouraged - once great cities to turn into cesspools. These politicians deserve to be put in jail along with the (other) criminals.

Sure, we'll always have street criminals. But when it's the inept, corrupt, coiffured criminal class running a city, the city doesn't stand a chance - no matter how many silly gun laws craven politicians get passed.

It's the moral rot from top to bottom causing the problem - not the "excess" of forged iron and brass.

11 posted on 10/05/2007 7:02:31 AM PDT by Gritty (The right to keep and bear arms is the palladium of the liberties of a republic-Justice Joseph Story)
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To: William Tell 2

>the scenes are derived from my experiences as a police officer in Philadelphia.

What part of Philly?

Believe it or not my former wife was from Philly, and not the Greater Northeast, either.

2nd and Allegany. - Of course, that was back in the old Frank Rizzo days.

- I’ll be sure to get your book at B&N. :)


12 posted on 10/05/2007 7:12:17 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: stayathomemom

How far off Penn campus is she living? Or was she in some other neighborhood when she saw this? When I was a grad student there in the 80’s that sort of stuff happened fairly close to campus, but after one of my successors as a math grad student was murdered about a block from my first apartment (at 40th and Pine) a decade after I finished my Ph.D., Penn redeveloped a huge swath of West Philly, and extended the reach of their own police (real police, guns and all, not like the rent-a-cops we have out here at midwestern cow colleges) into I think a 15 block arear around campus.

When I was back on sabbatical, I had the impression that the Penn neigborhood was now pretty safe. Maybe your daughter would do well to stay near Penn and only venture out into Center City and the South Street area by day. (The suburbs are fine, too: there was a movement in the 80’s for Penn grad students to live in the suburbs and commute by train. I lived in Paoli my last two years, and my best friend lived in Berwyn.)


13 posted on 10/05/2007 7:23:51 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: William Tell 2

A Sense of Duty

"The Philadelphia Bulletin calls A 'Sense Of Duty' : A Double Shot Of Testosterone Michael P. Tremoglie's "does for big city police training what Stanley Kubrick's Vietnam classic, "Full Metal Jacket" did for U. S. Marine boot camp. ..Tremoglie's attention to detail and understanding of the psychological hazards circling around his characters draws its readers into a world fraught with pending disaster, mixed with the joy of accomplishment, and then hit with the harsh reality of the eventualities its inhabitants tried so hard to avoid. "A Sense Of Duty" deals with clashes. Clashes between cultures, social status, ideologies, political parties, races, sexes, along with hopes and dreams. --The Philadelphia Bulletin "

14 posted on 10/05/2007 7:29:53 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: driftless2

I was in Wisconsin this past August. Stayed in Milwaukee stopped in Madison and Windsor.

Beautiful state. First time I was there. Reminded me a little of Pennsylvania - including the German food.


15 posted on 10/05/2007 7:50:57 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: Gritty

Thanks for the kind words. I do hope you buy the book.

You are absolutely correct. The politicians are out of control. They are stuck in gear using failed social policy of a by-gone era.

Ironically, it is the “progressives” who are really not progressive.

Here, btw, is a relevant excerpt from my novel:

***
“I always figured that a white liberal was more dangerous to
blacks than the Ku Klux Klan,”Mike said.

“Really?” Beverly asked, skeptically.

“Liberals don’t like imprisonment and capital punishment. This causes more crime. So, who are the people that bear the brunt of the consequences of that policy? Blacks do! That’s why homicide is the leading cause of death among young black males.”

Beverly was incredulous, “You think that capital punishment
would stop that?”

“Sure. Execution definitely limits the chances of someone
repeating a crime does it not? The recidivism rate is very low for someone who was executed.”

***

Mike is Mike Carr the protagonist of the novel. Beverly is Beverly Clark a civil rights attorney - who just happens to be very beautiful and very rich.

I won’t tell you how they meet or the relationship between them. You’ll have to buy the book :)


16 posted on 10/05/2007 7:58:24 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: bill1952

I was from South Philly, 8th and Oregon, which is where the novel is set. As a cop I was assigned to the 12th District in Southwest Philly ( I lived around 68th and Dorel when I was a boy.)

I hope you do buy the book. B&N is cheaper than Amazon.com. B&N’s website says they are out of stock right now. Let me know if they tell you you cannot buy it. I will need to fix that.

Thanks again.


17 posted on 10/05/2007 8:02:58 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: blam

Thank you very much for posting that. I am grateful.


18 posted on 10/05/2007 8:05:29 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: blam

I highly recommend the novel.


19 posted on 10/05/2007 8:07:18 AM PDT by policestory
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To: William Tell 2

Just an excuse to grab guns from the law-abiding citizens and deliberately leave them in the hands of the criminals.


20 posted on 10/05/2007 8:09:21 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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