Posted on 10/5/2007, 12:39:40 PM by Josh Painter
A recent Pew survey... found just 22 percent of the public -- and just 31 percent of Republicans—know Giuliani is pro-choice, and that 59 percent of Republicans who say social issues are very important to them are not sure what Giuliani’s position on abortion is.
So far, Rudy Giuliani has suffered little for deviating from the GOP’s traditional pro-life stance... Voter ignorance about the candidates’ positions has not been helped by some of the other Republican candidates who have thus far spent more time attacking each other than challenging the frontrunner on his liberal policy positions...
While none of the candidates is perfect on all the issues, we cannot afford to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The GOP has enjoyed an unprecedented run of success --winning five of the last seven presidential elections -- by nominating pro-life, pro-family, pro-victory candidates. There is no need to deviate from that winning formula now.
If Rudy Giuliani -- who likes to tell Republican voters on the campaign trail that their party needs to “move beyond” issues like abortion -- wins the Republican nomination for president, a debate over the prudence of running a third party candidate who represents conservative social values can take place. Right now, however, social conservatives -- the GOP’s nominating base -- should remember this: Rudy Giuliani can only win the Republican presidential nomination if social conservatives abandon the pro-life cause, or if significant numbers of us disengage from the electoral process. Either development would be tragic.
But if social conservatives stay united and continue to inform one another about where the candidates stand on the issues we care about, we can ensure that our values will be represented in the presidential election.
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Third Party is the President Hillary option.
The Clintons have been working for years to divide us I suspect with many tactics including trolling on this website.
When you run for the big office deliberate plans to hurt your opposition are made ahead of time and executed.
Whatever happens in the next few months we will have to close ranks behind our candidate, whoever it will be.
Right now in Iowa and New Hampshire if Rudy Giuliani is to be defeated it will have to be by tactical voting for Mitt Romney based on the polling data.
It may mean Fred Thompson in South Carolina.
One can vote principled for another candidate (not McCain or Paul) but my analysis is coming down to this conclusion for now.
bttt your wise words
No, the focus should be on saving the GOP from the liberals who are trying to make it Democrat Lite and ensuring that Guiliani does not get the nomination.
Third Parties are fools’ errands.
So is not knowing where the fire exit is located.
The word needs to be spread to all GOP voters. It's time to attack, and drive the stake through the heart of the Giuliani Campaign.
We need a chart of all the candidates with their issue stances.
Not the say nothing charts found on forbes but similar to the one which compares Guiliani’s positions to hillary.
Jeez. We don't need another Ross Perot giving another Clinton the win.
Vote Fred!
If by too early he means 2010, then I agree.
I as an evangelical Christian will work tirelessly against anyone, or any group that seeks to divide the conservative vote.
Life is full of choices, it is the way mankind was created. To make the best choices means we don’t always get a full plate. Certainly we want everything according to our beliefs, but at the time we pull the lever, the choice should be for the one who will provide the most - who fundamentally is a strong leader with a sense of Christian values even if they aren’t called in those terms.
I know a man who lives the most Christ-like life I have ever witnessed - but doesn’t go to church (he would never describe his life that way). I’m in church every Sunday and more, but find myself wishing to emulate his way of life. O yes, I have tried for years to get him to come to church with me - he prefers fishing.
What these numbers show me is that John Q. Public has not been paying attention to the Republican debates. I think as it becomes much closer to the Primaries, more voters will pay attention. As long as the message gets out that Rudy is a version of Hillary-lite, the poll numbers will more accurately reflect that.
At least I hope so.
My view of things has changed considerably as I’ve seen how some take a legalistic and or intellectual view of Christ.
Humanism has wreaked havoc upon many who profess Christ in this world.
The Pharisees and Sadducees live in our times.
But we need to take a hard look at these candidates right now and make some decisions.
I follow my convictions and would vote more likely for someone like Duncan Hunter but as I’ve said in other posts there is a tactical vote if one believes Rudy Giuliani is too liberal.
That may mean Romney and or Thompson depending on what state a person lives in. That’s the only realistic way to defeat Giuliani if one feels it must be done.
To defeat Guiliani is the battle. To defeat Clinton is the war that MUST be won.
Dear Padre - Exactly! And talk of a third party right now is shooting at ourselves in the midst of the initial battle. Gary Bauer’s christianity is beyond reproach. His personal life witness and leadership on Christian values in the public square for decades (side by side with President Reagan) give him much credibility in presenting this rationale.
Sorry, Next, I cannot, and will not, close ranks behind Rudy.
I would rather have the enemy in direct confrontation than have the enemy leading my charge.
I think I could close ranks behind, almost, any of the other candidates but I cannot say that of Rudy.
The author has always given me the creeps.
What good has it done?
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