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‘So close to war’: We came so close to World War Three that day (Israeli Attack On Syria)
Spectator (UK) ^ | 3rd October 2007 | James Forsyth and Douglas Davis

Posted on 10/07/2007 5:19:04 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: AD from SpringBay
But the article is careful to mention 'least likely' events.

Reading comprehension alert: The article actually mentions "least UNlikely" events, not "least likely".

41 posted on 10/07/2007 6:20:20 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: M Kehoe

Russia had to know the security system sold to Syria and Iran was crap. How could they not?


42 posted on 10/07/2007 6:20:25 PM PDT by BARLF (Who is Huma?)
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To: maine-iac7
The border is a top issue - but will be a mute issue if we don't win the WOT.

Ahhhh. And therein lies the conundrum. How can one fight a successful WOT if you don't know who or what is coming across your wide open borders?

43 posted on 10/07/2007 6:25:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: maine-iac7

I’m honestly not too concerned about Hillary in the White House as far as this sort of thing is concerned. She loves power and loves herself, and has no interest in getting nuked or having to take up long-term residence in a bunker. She’s as smart as she is unscrupulous, and she’ll do what’s needed in the international security arena. However, she’d be a domestic policy disaster and an overall ethical disaster, so I view keeping her out of the WH as a top priority — just not for international security reasons. President Bush is already reportedly cluing her in on the reasons he’s taking the positions he’s taking, and she’s backing off any serious opposition to his foreign policy actions.

Kerry and Gore would have been a whole different story. They’re both as stupid as they are unscrupulous, and could screw up things like this with truly earth-shattering consequences. Edwards may technically be smart, but I think he’s so thoroughly obsessed with idiotic things that he’d be prone to taking his eye off the ball with equally disastrous consequences. Obama is too weak to matter. In the unlikely event that he wins the WH, the Hillary machine will actually be running things.


44 posted on 10/07/2007 6:29:18 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: PJ-Comix
If people had known how close we came to world war three that day...

He's trying to make it sound like that would be a bad thing.

45 posted on 10/07/2007 6:35:23 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It only makes sense if it were low level nuclear material that would require much additional processing to make into a bomb. By letting it reach the intended destination, you get a twofer.

I doubt if it were a warhead, they would have let the ship sail, much less go anywhere.


46 posted on 10/07/2007 6:40:39 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: AD from SpringBay

Syria already has the components for a nuclear warhead. In the facility that we have satellite photos of and that the Israeli’s bombed. We watched the Russians take the stuff there just prior to our liberation of Iraq from Saddam.

What they didn’t have was the means to launch it and reach England, France, the US,and especially Israel without getting shot down (an ICBM with evasive capabilities).

This is what NK likely supplied. This is what NK has been testing. (remember Lil Kim’s missile tests a few months ago?????)


47 posted on 10/07/2007 6:43:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (((Wi arr mi kidz faling skool ?)))
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To: Past Your Eyes

“God bless Israel”

I was moved to speak those words to an IDF JAG officer and her husband at the Judge Advocate General School in 2005.

They looked at each other, smiled, then said to me,

“God bless America!”

:^)


48 posted on 10/07/2007 6:48:26 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: UCANSEE2

P.S. We didn’t stop them at sea because,

If we did, what would we find?

A Missile. An ICBM. So what.

No law against having those. It didn’t have a nuke mounted on it.

We would have ended up with a major diplomatic blunder on our hands, and no chance to do a darn thing about it. (we being US and Israel).

So. Now you know. A FR exclusive.


49 posted on 10/07/2007 6:49:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (((Wi arr mi kidz faling skool ?)))
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To: UCANSEE2

PPS.

This is the big ‘threat’ that Ahm-a-jackhead has been sputtering off about for the past few months.

It is why he and Beshear have been so kissy-face recently.

Iran would be ‘innocent’ since the missile would come from Syria, and Iran figured that the Coalition forces would blame Iran and attack, drawing in most of the middle East, and possibly NK, China, etc.


50 posted on 10/07/2007 6:53:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (((Wi arr mi kidz faling skool ?)))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

They waited until they had the soil samples to prove it was nuclear. That’s what the story says anyway.


51 posted on 10/07/2007 7:08:10 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Williams
Can’t see how based on any of the scenarios discussed, the British statement about “Armageddon” and “WWIII” makes any sense. And mind you, the person quoted said there would have been mass panic if people knew how close we came to a world war on that day. How do they figure?

Well, let's see.

NK gives Syria the components they still needed to go nuclear - and they are lock step with Iran.

They are intent on wiping Israel off the map...no secret there. Ahmadinejad has repeated almost as a mantra that he will "wipe Israel off the map" and he has said he dreams of "a world without America".

Ahmadinejad is not insane, he is dedicated. He really believes his mission on earth is to carry out the actions needed for Mahdi - the promised one of the Shiites' who, since age 9, has been hiding in a well for over a thousand years, to return. They believe Mahdi will come back and they will rule the world.

Ahmadinejad, who makes regular visits to the well and drops messages to Mahdi, believes he has been chosen to get the world ready, as it were. This means widespread destruction and bloodshed. He has voiced all this many times. We find such beliefs 'unbelievable' and so we hardly hear them or dismiss them.

WE should not.

They are puffed up with their infallibility - Iran's military is one of the largest in the world. Syria and Iran also thought they had, with their new Russian detection equipment, safety from retaliation no matter what they did. They are also mad enough to do it - but now they know they are blind and that everything they do is seen...

I had a friend years ago who worked in National Safety - some 30 years ago - and even then, he said if the people on the street knew one tenth of the dangers that we have faced and that have been thwarted, we'd never sleep.

I tend to believe the writer in that if we knew how close we came ... there would've been panic.

In addition, had the mission not been conducted in secret, there would've been so many people posturing and demanding this and that - much of it in hopes to gain personal and political power - that all hell could've broken loose. Myself, I'm glad we have the grownups in the WH. GW plays a mean hand of poker. And he does not have the psychotic need, as did our former pres., to be front and center, taking the credit for every move. His objective is to get what needs to be done, done. End of story.

WE must wake up and realize that there is a culture out there that wants us all dead. The danger is real. And they are NOT people either interested in sitting down and talking things out - nor, indeed have the thought processes that we can understand...all we need to remember is, they want us - all infidels in the world - dead.

52 posted on 10/07/2007 7:09:07 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Riodacat

They want to win though, not lose. This incedent on sept 9 proves that israel cannot lose.


53 posted on 10/07/2007 7:09:33 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: BARLF
Russia had to know the security system sold to Syria and Iran was crap. How could they not?

They did. And they also had a pretty good idea of what kind of future revenue stream they could depend on when upgrade time came...

54 posted on 10/07/2007 7:13:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Then, with Israeli jets in the air - you know what that would have looked like. Assad and Ahmadinnerjacket would have retaliated, plus who knows what else would have happened.

And if the Israeli raid failed to destroy the target, (potentially a dirty nuke warhead or low yield nuclear device), the Syrians would have been compelled to use it quickly. Use it or lose it. That was possibly the risk of a greater 'Armageddon' type scenario. It seems odd that 20 to 40 North Koreans would be present just to handle a dirty nuclear device. They must have been doing much more then just playing with a big bomb surrounded with radioactive material.

55 posted on 10/07/2007 7:18:53 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: processing please hold
It was worth it. Syria’s having DT’s and Iran’s chitting it’s britches.

I wonder if Ahmadinejad ran to the well and asked Mahdi "WTF?"

56 posted on 10/07/2007 7:20:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

President Bush is already reportedly cluing her in on the reasons he’s taking the positions he’s taking, and she’s backing off any serious opposition to his foreign policy actions.
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I’ve been thinking about this too. You know ol’ slick willie has taken alot of heat over letting bin laden go and he really gets mad when the subject comes up. If hillary got in, I really don’t think she’d back off on the war. At least not for a few years. I think she’d find some way to show that bush is a dummy and screwed up royally and now she’s going to take care of it the right way once and for all.

It’s just a hunch.


57 posted on 10/07/2007 7:20:37 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: steve86
I don't know,I'm beginning to think Putin is spying FOR the United States. The Russians always seem to be kissing up to the punkie tyrants but seem to know when to hightail it back to Russia just before the big bang happens.

Russia got the money, Syria and Iran got stiffed.

58 posted on 10/07/2007 7:21:14 PM PDT by BARLF (Who is Huma?)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

If the ship was from NK a known nuclear power attacking a ship flying under its flag is an act of war and NK may have made it nuclear. By waiting for the shipment to enter Syria, it made NK no longer involved and the nuclear threat off the table.


59 posted on 10/07/2007 7:24:35 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: infidel29

I agree if this was a bullshit attack you would have seen people in the streets chanting death to Israel. But they didnt because the Isralies took out their nuclear factories that they told the UN they did not have.


60 posted on 10/07/2007 7:24:51 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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