Posted on 10/08/2007 9:44:24 AM PDT by Incorrigible
The Democrats are all worked up about Rush Limbaugh's remark about "phony soldiers" who oppose the Iraq War.
They miss the point. Limbaugh's attack was not directed at Democrats. It was directed at Republicans.
..."Well, who are these Republicans?" Limbaugh asked. "I can think of Chuck Hagel, and I can think of Gordon Smith, two Republican senators. Who are the Republicans in the antiwar movement?"
Hmm. We can start with Pat Buchanan, who predicted with amazing accuracy before the war began that American troops would still be bogged down in Iraq four years later. Then there's William F. Buckley, who has termed the war "a failure." Then there was the approximately 50 percent of the audience at the recent GOP presidential debate in New Hampshire who applauded candidate Ron Paul's call for a pullout from Iraq...
...Both Limbaugh and his listeners would be shocked if they looked into the ideological roots of the movement that has us bogged down in Iraq. The thought of such neoconservative deep thinkers as Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz is rooted in the left, the far left -- way, way, way out there past Bill and Hillary. In fact Podhoretz, who is foreign-policy adviser to Rudy Giuliani, set a 21st-century standard for left-wing looniness when he said of the Iraq War in a recent debate with Buckley, "It couldn't have gone better."
...The United States military has accomplished everything it set out to do in Iraq. Depose Saddam Hussein? Check. Eliminate any weapons that could threaten America? Check. Enable free elections? Check.
A more complete victory could not be imagined. Yet Limbaugh and the neoconservatives characterize the withdrawal of the victorious troops as a defeat.
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.nj.com ...
Paul Mulshine helped me formulate my conservative perspective and for that I will always be grateful. However, he has been cranky for the past few years and definitely no fan of Rush or Sean.
They miss the point. Limbaugh's attack was not directed at Democrats. It was directed at Republicans.
..."Well, who are these Republicans?" Limbaugh asked. "I can think of Chuck Hagel, and I can think of Gordon Smith, two Republican senators. Who are the Republicans in the antiwar movement?"
Careful, those comments are in a different context, and have absolutely nothing to do with who he was calling "phony soldiers".
‘In fact Podhoretz, who is foreign-policy adviser to Rudy Giuliani, set a 21st-century standard for left-wing looniness when he said of the Iraq War in a recent debate with Buckley, “It couldn’t have gone better.”’
He was referring to the phase against Saddam’s government.
The author is very misleading.
“Irving Kristol”? Can’t tell a Jew without a scorecard eh Paul?
I ask if they even know what that means and they usually don't.
When I point out that it means, "New Conservative", that essentially everything they place at the feet of the Neocons can really be blamed on "Old Liberals", they freak out.
Whether he is a fan of Rush or not, the guy is right on target about the RINO’’s.
When Mulshine isn’t going off on one of his rants complaining about the evil SUVs that nearly ran him off the road, he is busy trying to convince everyone here in the Democratic People’s Republic of New Jersey that Rush, Sean, Levin, George W are not the arbiters of what is or isn’t “Conservative”...HE IS. Including his anti-war rants which give him continued license to write in the DPRNJ.
Leave the Iraqi people to a life of tryranny in an Al Qaida safe haven? Check - your meds, Moonshine.
First, Buchanan is no republican, he ran for President against George W Bush in 2000 for the reform party, remember? And the audience at the debate was certainly not all republicans so citing them as a barometer of republican sentiment is meaningless too. False premises make it so much easier to get your point across, though.
We didn’t eliminate the weapons. They are in Syria and there is little will to do anything about it.
We did cut off Saddam’s ties to international terrorism (like funding suicide bombers in Israel) and his money that he was funneling to Russia, Germany, and France to buy off their involvement in our war with Iraq.
He had WMD and was seeking to acquire more. He was already on probation after The Gulf War and there was no difference between him an a felon out on parole who is caught trying to buy a gun for which he is prohibited from owning.
It was Saddam who repeatedly violated the terms of the Gulf War peace agreements. It was Saddam who refused to step down. It was Saddam who brought on the war.
Mulshine is trying to redefine the debate. He misses the point entirely.
There they go again, attempting to slander Rush.
Mulshine and New Jersey, it just seems to go together. what a pile of bunk from this Jersey Conservative.
I thought we were not allowed to post blogs in the main sections of FR, I thought this type of stuff from blogs belongs in chats.
Has the policy changed?
Impossible. Rush is always right.
Rush is talking about Free Republic as we speak!
Yes! and "Old Liberals" surrendered their Democratic Party to the New Left Rats without putting up a fight. They never even told the rank-and-file that they were running away.
This light-weight has a hate-on for Limbaugh, and has for years. He is jealous; stuck.
Even though The Newark Star Ledger is trying to be in with the kids these days by posting all their op-ed columns in a “blog” subdomain, this was an actual published column in Sunday’s newspaper.
You are correct! Limbaugh's remarks were aimed at those who are posing as imposter's! Liars who claim they are soldiers and have never attained the honor of being a soldier, or soldiers who lie about the combat actions they have been involved in.
A "PHONY SOLDIER" brags about his servicer, if he ever served. You don't have to ask a "PHONY SOLDIER" about his service to this country ... he will tell you that HE was a hero! Over and over again and each telling will be further embellished with more outrageous lies.
A "Real Soldier", a combat veteran, regards combat and the role he played as personal and keeps it to himself ... "NO BRAG" ...
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