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As Obama Talks Religion, Questions Surround His Controversial Pastor
FOX NEWS ^ | October 08, 2007 | Cristina Corbin

Posted on 10/08/2007 12:48:40 PM PDT by Baladas

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To: Baladas

Obama: Imagine a Kingdom right here on Earth

Imagine there’s no heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today... I IIII

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... you whooo

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... you whooo

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one


21 posted on 10/08/2007 1:39:33 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: evad
Yes, his father was a muzzie = and his stepfather was = are we supposed to beleive that a little boy in the same house with a Muslim step father isn't going to be expected to live the faith?

This is a good link -

Los Angeles Times, via the Hartford Courant, USA Mar. 16, 2007

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Excerpts:

"At the local primary school, he prayed in thanks to a Catholic saint. In the neighborhood mosque, he bowed to Allah....

"His former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama’s grade-school teacher as childhood friends, say Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended.

"That registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class.

"The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque.

"In his autobiography, “Dreams from My Father,” Obama briefly mentions Quranic study and describes his public school, which accepted students of all religions, as “a Muslim school.”

So now? if we just took the last paragraph - if he does indeed say in his own autobiography "... mentions Quranic study and describes his public school, which accepted students of all religions, as “a Muslim school.”...

Then why is everyone else who says so, branded liars?

Truth will out, the saying goes...and it sounds like has just opened his mouth and out fell the truth of his beliefs - Muslims shall set up and rule the Kingdom "right here on earth" =

22 posted on 10/08/2007 1:42:44 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Baladas

Obama Promising the ‘Kingdom of God’ on earth is talking way above his pay grade.


23 posted on 10/08/2007 1:44:54 PM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Of course he’s a muzzie. And as a good muzzie, for infiltration purposes and da’wa he joined a “church” that is virulently anti-semitic and anti-white. I’m sure Obamasama weighed joining that “church” and the noi (nation of islam, Calypso Louie’s cult), and opted for the former for political reasons. And, isn’t he on the Senate Intelligence Committee? If he is, he’s privy to all kinds of Top Secret information. It’s shocking what we’ve allowed to happen to America.


24 posted on 10/08/2007 2:01:12 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: Baladas
"...asking a church audience in South Carolina to help him become “an instrument of God” and join him in creating “a Kingdom right here on Earth."

He's looking in all the wrong places.

25 posted on 10/08/2007 2:09:13 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Baladas
“Wright’s preaching does promote a sort of racial exclusivity,”

A fact about which the DBM will do anything and everything in their power to keep out of the news and off the radar.

If Obama were a Republican and went to a church like this, he would have hordes of frenzied media-types camped outside his house 24/7 calling for his head until they forced him to withdraw from the race and go into self-imposed exile somewhere in Antarctica.

Privilege has its privileges.
26 posted on 10/08/2007 2:22:05 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Baladas

To understand Obama’s statement about a Kingdom on earth, one should know something about Christian theology. Namely, the Premillennialist belief that not until the second coming of Christ, when the King gets here, can the Kingdom of heaven become God’s Kingdom on earth vs the Amillennial belief that one need not wait until Christ gets here, we can have God’s Kingdom right now on earth.

Now the question is, what is his Chicago Pastor’s position on this? Is he Premillennial or Amillennial? One might gather from Obama’s statement that he is merely reflecting the theology of his pastor.

As a Premillennialist, I see the Amillennialist view as dangerous theology. It has spawned such things as Hitler’s 1000 year Third Reich, his version of the 1000 year millennial kingdom in Revelation chapter 20. It, in my opinion, will also be the theological basis for the antichrist kingdom when it arrives.

I might add, there is another view, Postmillennialism, even more dangerous, which might be the view that Obama and his Pastor believe in.


27 posted on 10/08/2007 2:50:43 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: maine-iac7
Muslims shall set up and rule the Kingdom "right here on earth" =

LOL...a mole....
And not even a good one.

The Manchurian Muzzie

28 posted on 10/08/2007 4:07:43 PM PDT by evad
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Yes, that is a pretty sick and twisted 'core value' of a church that is claiming Christ as its head.
Christ is the center of our focus, as we are all sinners in desperate need of a Saviour. We all come as we are - whatever skin color, tongues, nationality, education, economic scale, or what have you, to the only one who can Save.

Twisting that focus to exult ethnic or national background is disgusting.

29 posted on 10/08/2007 7:17:04 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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