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The Murders of Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena (Warning: Brutal Descriptions)
Murder Victims ^ | unknown | Charlene Hall

Posted on 10/09/2007 7:44:26 AM PDT by beaversmom

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To: beaversmom
Waiting to see news of this on CBS and NBC. (/sarcasm)
61 posted on 10/09/2007 12:48:54 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: sasafras
Bush only uses the term Christian to gather votes, all while he claims that Allah is the same as Jesus.

I used to respect GW as a committed Christian who was better than his daddy. Now I agree with you. He's very confused about God and everything. He's gone soft and he hides behind the word Christian. It shields him from lots of hostile criticism

62 posted on 10/09/2007 1:24:48 PM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant — one who is "selected, not endured" - Nicholas Sarkozy)
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To: Revenge of Sith

No they would use all blue eyed blond white actors and the girls woud be black and/or Hispanic..not blond/white and Hispanic...


63 posted on 10/09/2007 2:30:34 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: beaversmom

bump


64 posted on 10/09/2007 2:31:29 PM PDT by VOA
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To: heywoodubuzzoff
George W. Bush has his head firmly placed up his @$$. These girls, citizens of the United States, were brutally murdered by ILLEGAL ALLIENS.

And GWB is going to ignore the rights of these murdered citizen’s/and their family's, of this country, and forgo the legal system here in the United States, and have this verdict overturned.

What Then Hell is going through this mans head? Is he Clinton’s evil brother? Bush has lost ALL CREDIBILITY!!! I am for impeaching his @$$.

And this comes from someone who has supported him, until he went to bed with Mexico. What a prick.

65 posted on 10/09/2007 2:40:54 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: heywoodubuzzoff

As an American citizen, I would expect to be allowed to contact the closest US embassy or consulate if I were arrested overseas — no matter how long I’d been there, whether I entered legally, or what charge I was arrested on.

If I were accused, with good evidence, of a heinous crime, I wouldn’t expect the State Department to do any more than provide, or maybe just recommend, a lawyer. And to monitor the proceedings. One key duty of any country’s diplomatic corps is to ensure that its citizens are treated fairly. I would expect diplomats in the US to extend the same protection to their citizens.

That said, I don’t think that is sufficient grounds to overturn a jury’s decision, unless he was denied effective counsel. The most the consulate could have done would be to provide a lawyer and lobby on his behalf, and there was nothing in this case preventing them from doing either, or preventing a lawyer or anyone else from contacting the consulate for him.


66 posted on 10/09/2007 2:42:18 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: whitedog57

Jorge! This man Can Not be a man of faith. Un-freakin-believable.

Screw Bush!!!


67 posted on 10/09/2007 2:45:05 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: redstateconfidential
Hmm,pissed to the point of no spaces.Bush should also rot for his complacency.
68 posted on 10/09/2007 2:49:52 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: beaversmom

Notice how he works the name of his gang into the first line of the second paragraph?


69 posted on 10/09/2007 2:50:03 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: beaversmom

I’ve been “out of the loop” for a bit here, I’d heard GW wanted to stop someone’s execution, HOWEVER, I didn’t know it was for this......................................!

I’ll say no more as I’m not sure there is much more to say.

I WILL pray for these families, and our children, and our country....and pray that our Lord Jesus returns soon.


70 posted on 10/09/2007 4:06:17 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Thanks—didn’t have time to read it earlier.


71 posted on 10/09/2007 9:12:14 PM PDT by beaversmom
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The Elizabeth Pena entry on Findagrave

The Jennifer Ertman entry on Findagrave

72 posted on 10/09/2007 9:23:44 PM PDT by beaversmom
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The Elizabeth Pena entry on Findagrave

Jennifer Ertman entry on Findagrave

73 posted on 10/10/2007 8:02:41 AM PDT by beaversmom
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shame on you...


74 posted on 10/10/2007 8:05:03 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: firewalk

Who are you shaming?


75 posted on 10/10/2007 8:09:00 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

people who defend convicted murderers...


76 posted on 10/10/2007 8:12:13 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: firewalk

I’m sorry, I thought it might have been directed toward me and I didn’t know what I did :)


77 posted on 10/10/2007 8:14:42 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

no, not to you


78 posted on 10/10/2007 8:16:52 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: beaversmom

I’m not sure who else has brought attention to it.

Mike Gallagher did his whole show on this sub. yesterday, Oct.9. Interviewed one of the fathers of the teens, very disturbing doesn’t describe the emotions of this parent.

I just can’t figure President Bush on this one??
I bet he would feel different if it were Jenna, his daughter!!:-t


79 posted on 10/10/2007 8:17:34 AM PDT by buck61
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I don’t remember Rush talking about this. Anyone hear him talking about it? Maybe his show prep staff let this one slip.


80 posted on 10/10/2007 8:25:00 AM PDT by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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