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The Murders of Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena (Warning: Brutal Descriptions)
Murder Victims ^ | unknown | Charlene Hall

Posted on 10/09/2007 7:44:26 AM PDT by beaversmom

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To: beaversmom
"...The bodies could be found near T.C. Jester Park at White Oak bayou..."

There is a mountain bike trail near there called "The Swamp": I have been on quest to find it. It involves cruising the area on my bike looking for the trail entrance off the street.

On the map it seems like a decent area, but friends warned me to be careful. Sure enough, the place is crawling with scumbags, bums, and druggies. I would not ever go there alone, and I am a grown man. One druggie even made a piss poor attempt to rob me of my bike, while I was on it.

41 posted on 10/09/2007 8:34:26 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=-
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To: Tennessee Nana

ping


42 posted on 10/09/2007 8:34:42 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

This is why we need to KNOW who is coming into this country. President Bush - Enforce the BORDER NOW! If the Republican Party won’t step up and do it we will find someone who will!


43 posted on 10/09/2007 8:36:28 AM PDT by notbuyingit2
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To: beaversmom

So, according to Bush, foreigners have special rights that we Americans do not have in that the States cannot prosecute a foreigner without first notifying the foreign government and foreigners can have their death sentences appealed on those grounds.

Just how the Hell does a foreign government get privilege in a State case?? When a person violates State law they are held to that law and no foreign government has the right to interfere or even present representation to the accused. The accused gets representation they can afford or be appointed just like any American citizen.

Bush thinks differently.


44 posted on 10/09/2007 8:54:02 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: beaversmom
I just sent an email to Ken Salazar Senator from Colorado,
asking him if Jose Ernesto Medellin was the kind of Mexican
that he, Ken, wanted to make a citizen ?

I added the link and asked him to read and consider.
Then seek the face of G-d and consider Ken's final destination.

shalom b'shem Yah'shua

45 posted on 10/09/2007 8:56:19 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: beaversmom

These are violent killers. I don’t care how old they are or where they originated from. They should suffer the consequences of their actions and that is the death penalty.

Why in the world would we want keep these scum alive. Those girls never had a chance. These vermin never gave them a chance.

Be dammed with politics. These scum should be put to death.


46 posted on 10/09/2007 9:17:08 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: freekitty
Be dammed with politics. These scum should be put to death.

I'd rather he face 5 minutes alone with the father (Mr. Ertman).

47 posted on 10/09/2007 9:25:55 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: beaversmom

There are no words,,,,,well,,,,,actually there are words, but those words are better left unsaid lest I get banned for life, THANKS JORGE.


48 posted on 10/09/2007 9:31:57 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: beaversmom

Thanks for the PING

I listened to Laura this morning...

I’m appalled at President Bush not considering the sovreignty of our country and our laws....


49 posted on 10/09/2007 9:53:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: beaversmom; rockabyebaby

The local guy (Peter Boyles, 630 AM, Denver, CO. 5am-9am) was all over this. I will be sending an email to Jorge el Segundo. I hope to remain calm enuff that I do not receive a visit from the feds.


50 posted on 10/09/2007 10:16:29 AM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: steel_resolve

I’ve been waiting for the public to administer justice in a lot of similar cases, but it hasn’t happenned yet. As my tagline, lifted from Tuco’s near-fatal hanging scene in the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly goes................

Then again, I live in Massachusetts................


51 posted on 10/09/2007 10:26:01 AM PDT by CletusVanDamme ((and any other aliases..be hung by the neck until dead. May the Lord have mercy on his soul: PROCEED)
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To: beaversmom
As a mother of three daughters, I’m stunned and disgusted. I’m ashamed of a president who would see that this scumbag has any right to anything other than death. I was a resident of Texas some years ago and was proud of the fact that we took care of the scum with the Death penalty.
I would ask Mr President what he would do if it were his two daughters that this monster murdered?
I pray the Supreme Court does the correct thing, but I remain afraid. One thing is for sure these monsters may get an easy out of this tragic crime here on Earth but will pay in Eternity. Small consolation for the families now. God help us all.
52 posted on 10/09/2007 11:01:33 AM PDT by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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To: dynachrome

Yes I was first listening to Boyles then switched to Ingraham this morning. I hope more radio hosts will talk about.


53 posted on 10/09/2007 11:10:35 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: lula

I was thinking the same thing—President Bush has two daughters—even if he was childless though. They not only murdered these girls they tortured them! Why don’t they give the international court the middle finger? Why don’t they stand up for the United States. Shouldn’t we come first? I was crying for these girls this morning when I read the details. You are right—God please help us!


54 posted on 10/09/2007 11:14:15 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom; DCPatriot; skeeter
dcpatriot....please tell us again how happy we should be that you and your kind make it easy for these 'people' to be here.

Then tell us again how many murdered Americans is too many for you. Obviously these two young girls aren't enough.

55 posted on 10/09/2007 11:19:09 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: beaversmom

Why the president is siding with the World Court to intervene in the execution of this monster murderer, against a Texas court decision ,of an American teenager is beyond me. He is deliberately subjugating our court system, undermining our own jurisdiction, which is inexcusable.

The last two paragraphs of President George Washington warn of what is happening in America today;

For collusion of powers, he warned, “The habits of thinking in a free country should inspire caution in those entrusted with its administration to confine themselves within their respective constitutional spheres, avoiding in the exercise of the powers of one department to encroach upon another. The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one and thus to create whatever the form of government, a real despotism.”

On usurpation, he warned, “If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent must always greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient benefit which the use can at any time yield.”

May the Judicial stay in the courts, the Congress stay on the Hill, and the President stay in the White House. Separation of powers was and is a good idea.


56 posted on 10/09/2007 11:21:44 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Go Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: beaversmom

omg this is horrible. I have a 14 year old daughter. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.


57 posted on 10/09/2007 11:25:00 AM PDT by meanie monster
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To: lesser_satan

“Well what a wonderful example of diversity!”

If there was a TV movie about this heinous crime, the network would make the gang racially mixed to be politically correct.


58 posted on 10/09/2007 11:29:37 AM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: wtc911; DCPatriot
Its not that they're against a good strong border policy, WTC. They'll be the first to tell you they're for a 'strong border', by golly.

They're just for the poor benighted illegals that are here.

Those that contrinute to their personal bottom line, that is.

Of course they'll try to distance themselves from the pain and suffering their greed has helped heap upon their countrymen by telling you they only support the 'honest law abiding' illegals, but we all know it is their kind that must share responsibility for each and every one of the crimes committed by these illegals.

59 posted on 10/09/2007 11:40:45 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Of course they'll try to distance themselves from the pain and suffering their greed has helped heap upon their countrymen by telling you they only support the 'honest law abiding' illegals, but we all know it is their kind that must share responsibility for each and every one of the crimes committed by these illegals.

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On target.

60 posted on 10/09/2007 11:51:21 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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