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Population Decline Hitting New Jersey Hard
WCBS 880 ^ | 10/10/2007 | WCBS Radio

Posted on 10/10/2007 7:18:50 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9

TRENTON, NJ (AP) -- New Jersey's accelerating population loss is starting to have significant economic and fiscal consequences for the state

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The report found the state lost 231,565 people between 2002 and 2006, including 72,547 people last year. The latter was the fourth highest loss in the nation behind only California, Louisiana and New York.

Meanwhile, North Carolina grew by 807,000 people over the four-year period, displacing New Jersey last year as the nation's 10th most populous state, the report stated.

When lost income and sales taxes from the people who left New Jersey are considered, the population drain is estimated to have cost the state $680 million in tax revenue last year, the report found.

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From 2000 to 2005, the largest net outflow of New Jersey taxpayers was to Florida (124,584 people), Pennsylvania (42,459 people) and North Carolina (29,803 people), their report found.

It found the state had a positive net inflow of taxpayers from New York (148,538 people).

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(Excerpt) Read more at wcbs880.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: census; exodus; gateway; joisey; migration; neujersey; newjersey
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To: Clemenza

I thought Bucks would be more expensive. My taxes are dirt cheap.


61 posted on 10/10/2007 8:37:22 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: GovernmentShrinker

That is where I live.


62 posted on 10/10/2007 8:38:30 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: GovernmentShrinker; angcat
Luzerne (where my ancestors immigrated to before coming to NJ), is still a far commute to the Princeton area. Most folks can't stand such a long commute.

The worst counties to live in eastern PA are Montgomery, Delaware, and Philadelphia (duh) counties. Bucks is still more reasonable than those counties, to say nothing of Central NJ.

Monroe County, of course, is a dumping ground for ghetto dwellers suckered in by no-money-down cheap housing advertised on the NY subway system.

63 posted on 10/10/2007 8:41:44 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: AppyPappy

Don’t know about that. All of the waterfront property in our area (eastern NC) has been bought by people from New Jersey. Of course, now they want to turn NC into New Jersey.


64 posted on 10/10/2007 9:00:06 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Awwww, just follow Michigan’s shining example and raise taxes. It’ll all work out fine.


65 posted on 10/10/2007 9:00:55 AM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Shoudl Hillary become President, will people be leaving America?


66 posted on 10/10/2007 9:02:15 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
We cashed in our equity and moved to GA.

I thought it was funny that you had to pay a toll to get out of NJ, but it was free to come in. Having said that I thought NJ was a great and beautiful place to live. Too bad it is so expensive. I loved all the little towns, the people were always friendly and there was always something interesting to see and do. Of course we lived in a Republican county.

67 posted on 10/10/2007 9:06:11 AM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: theBuckwheat
Earth to New Jersey Citizens: escape while you can and while your homes are worth something. The N-1 game of Musical Chairs has already started.

Funny - elsewhere in the article it states that the exodus might be slowed by the drop in property values. Might be too late to get out while the "getting is good"

68 posted on 10/10/2007 12:15:12 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: kabar
lot has to do with an ageing population...

Really? Is there a disproportionately high number of older people in the state? I would have assumed it's similar to the other states.

69 posted on 10/10/2007 1:37:14 PM PDT by econjack ("You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.")
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To: econjack
Really? Is there a disproportionately high number of older people in the state? I would have assumed it's similar to the other states.

First, the entire country is ageing and more and more baby boomers will be retiring. By 2030, there will be twice as many retirees [70 million] as there are today.

Second, retirees are heading to places with lower taxes and better weather. They are free from the shackles of having to live where their job is.

There is a difference within the US among states on the median age of the population. Maine is the oldest and Utah the youngest. NJ is the 15th oldest. Median Age of the Total Population: 2003

70 posted on 10/10/2007 1:47:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

People who retire in New Jersey can’t afford to stay in their homes, even if they’ve paid off their mortgages, because the property taxes are so high. So, they leave. Young people can’t find jobs because the tax base is so high employers are moving away. So, what’s left? Lucky people who land the remaining jobs, losers on welfare, illegal immigrants and thick larding of criminals and corruption eating away at everything they can get their hands on.


71 posted on 10/10/2007 1:48:43 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Maybe people are leaving the blue states for the red ones, but that doesn’t mean those people will vote red rather than blue. Just look at what is happening with the Massghanistanition of New Hampshire.


72 posted on 10/10/2007 3:31:37 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
Its taxes, taxes, taxes, stupid. Blue States are hemorrhaging population. This is bad news for Mama Boss Nancy Pelosi.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

73 posted on 10/10/2007 3:33:48 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9; Calpernia; ml/nj

Last one out of the Democratic Peoples Republic of New Jersey please don’t forget to turn the lights out.


74 posted on 10/10/2007 9:01:01 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: pnh102

Consider this fair warning as if you already didn’t know. Don’t trust New Englanders, Kalifornians, or jackasses who move into your state from NY or NJ.

They get over the Berlin Wall to escape high taxes, collectivism and Socialism. But they are carriers of the disease.

Then they will sit around and wonder and bitch about how the state they moved to turned into the same Socialist sinkhole they tried to get away from.


75 posted on 10/10/2007 9:05:13 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: arbooz

They ruined Florida. Shocking, not. See above post.


76 posted on 10/10/2007 9:06:42 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
They get over the Berlin Wall to escape high taxes, collectivism and Socialism. But they are carriers of the disease.

I saw the same thing happen back when I lived in suburban Philadelphia. All the leftist human waste from the city decided it couldn't put up with the cesspool that Philadelphia had become. So they all moved out to the suburbs. Chester County (where I lived) is pretty much lost to the Democrat party now. Taxes are going up, government is getting bigger. Each time I visit... I just don't think I could live there again.

77 posted on 10/11/2007 3:54:27 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: 2banana
I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the people fleeing NJ are tax payers and not tax takers.

Thereby perpetuating the problem.

79 posted on 10/11/2007 5:33:56 AM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: theBuckwheat; Fudd Fan; Calpernia
I will be getting out as soon as I can.

Worst case scenario is 3.5 years away.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

80 posted on 10/11/2007 5:37:35 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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