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The GOP's 20% Problem
The Wall Street Journal/Opinion Journal ^ | 10/12/2007 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 10/12/2007 9:00:03 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

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To: bill1952

Reagan or Rudy. No Brainer. Than one realizes that Reagan is gone. God Bless him. But... if we consider the fact that McCain wants Greenspand dead or alive in his administration, why than can we not have Reagan or at least his effigy? We know that his effigy would be a better leader than the choices we have now.

Great pic of Reagan.


21 posted on 10/12/2007 10:01:27 AM PDT by rineaux (Just say NO to taglines)
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To: bill1952
I'm sorry after seeing Fred's performance the other night and hearing him speak a couple of times he is no RR. People can project all they want, but if Fred is our nominee we go down in flames. He comes across as old, sick and a little confused when he speaks. I wish it wasn't true because I like Fred and was waiting for him to enter the race hoping he would bring something to the table, but he didn't. I think I know why he waited so long. He wasn't committed to the endeavor because he knows he is not up to it.
22 posted on 10/12/2007 10:07:10 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Cicero

Great points. I think several posters did not read beyond the first paragraph - it’s Peggy, therefore it’s bad. Yes, Peggy has gone wobbly for awhile and yes, it has seemed to be due to the rejection of her by the powers that be in the Bush administration. However, when what she is observing and commenting about is echoed by Laura Ingraham, chances are there is something there. I don’t feel that President Bush has been well served by his communications team for quite some time now, if ever (could we put Vice President Cheney in charge of that too?) And it is also clear that the results of their actions only help Rudy.


23 posted on 10/12/2007 10:13:17 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: PhilCollins; jalisco555
The Democrats will by absolutely, 100% united behind their nominee, whoever it is. If we don't act the same way we're toast.

See that in post 12?

Truer words have never been spoken, and if you believe that
"We need to start the Republican National Convention without knowing who the nominee will be." then I have to assume that you have not thought your statement out.

Going into the convention without the GOP and it's voters all firmly and proudly behind one candidate who clearly enunciates the clear vision that we all desire is the shortest road to the longest defeat in history.

Excitement is for the playground, football, and the MSM.

I want victory, and I want your vote.

24 posted on 10/12/2007 10:13:31 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: redangus

>I think I know why he waited so long. He wasn’t committed to the endeavor because he knows he is not up to it.

I believe that I will let Fred himself explain whats in his mind, rather than pay much attention to what other people say they think that they know what he thinks.

Follow?


25 posted on 10/12/2007 10:16:55 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: Badeye

The big difference between rudy and mitt is that rudy is an open borders guy and mitt is not.


26 posted on 10/12/2007 10:26:01 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: All

It’s embarrassing to belong to a Republican Party that would choose Rudy over Duncan Hunter. It doesn’t say much for the future of the party or do anything to prevent its break up. I wonder, who did more to give conservatives our brief majority, Nixon or Carter. That seems to be where we are going, Rudy or Hillary.


27 posted on 10/12/2007 10:26:16 AM PDT by pallis
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To: bill1952

You were incorrect when you assumed that I hadn’t thought out my statement, when I said, “We need to start the Republican National Convention without knowing who the nominee will be.” I’ve been watching conventions, of both parties since 1976, when I was nine, and I’m tired of seeing boring conventions when we know who the nominees will be before the convention starts.

I agree that, by the end of the convention, the republican delegates should all firmly and proudly support one candidate who clearly enunciates the clear vision that we all desire, so that we can work together to defeat the Democrat.


28 posted on 10/12/2007 10:29:06 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: indylindy

There’s something going on with the server. It’s awfully slow at times (page loads), as well.


29 posted on 10/12/2007 10:29:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ckilmer

No dispute on that score here.


30 posted on 10/12/2007 10:32:17 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye

“They serve and rarely leave. So often people work in government and make it more of a swamp; then they leave and become mosquitoes living off the pond scum, buzzing off the surface, eating well, issuing their little stings.”

Doesn’t Peggy’s unflattering description of the inside the Beltway crowd also fit her to a T?


31 posted on 10/12/2007 11:11:16 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: RC2

Don’t blame Arkansas. The hag from Illinois made Billy Jeff. Without her guidance, He would have never been anything but an ambulance chasing shyster lawyer or a used car salesman.


32 posted on 10/12/2007 11:11:57 AM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: Cecily

‘Doesn’t Peggy’s unflattering description of the inside the Beltway crowd also fit her to a T?’

I believe it does. Apparently she has a hairdresser and as such rarely looks into a mirror.....


33 posted on 10/12/2007 11:13:23 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
It pathetic how means spirited, childish and whiny the old Dincons have become. Noonan has become Pat Buchanan in a dress. A hysteric, whiner has been who cannot grasp the reality that her world view became obsolete on 09-11-01.

Yo Ms Noonan, instead of venting your pathetic BDS for the 10,000 time, how about you discuss the Democrat Congress’s 11% approval rating?

Ah but that right, that would require you to actually take on your Leftists media buddies and speak truth to whiners. Why, they might not invite you to their cocktail party's anymore!

Wonder what Peggy would of said about a President that signed 6 tax hikes? A Real Illegal Alain Amnesty? Double Federal Spending in 8 years? Spent record Deficits? Ran away from a Muslim Terrorist threat? Appointed a Liberal to the Supreme Court?

That President was Ronald Reagan.

Nothing in life is ever perfect. Adults understand that. Whiny petulent children, like Ms Noonan, whine hsyterically about it. Instead of acting like a unpaid Democrat Campaign agent, maybe Peggy and the rest of the Always Whining pseudo Conservative Media Establishment MIGHT try actually attacking the Leftists ON ANY THING one time.

34 posted on 10/12/2007 11:16:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats : Don’t tell us how to fight the war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiot.)
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To: Badeye

I think that will make the difference among conservatives. I think anyone interested in rudy’s nomination has to tell him that he needs to nail the border issue. its already sunk McCain. Nobody but nobody will trust him. the meeting out in Utah by social conservatives I think was meant to put the screws on mitt—at the time when social conservatives have the most leverage. I think the fear is that the tradeoff that mitt will make is to be strong on the border and weak on all social issues. He has a liberal wife


35 posted on 10/12/2007 11:18:22 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ex-snook
As always WRONG.

How about instead of mindlessly squealing the same senile dogmas about Iraq you actually finally learn something about Iraq?

Democrat Congress followed your RUN AWAY dogmas on Iraq. They now have a 3% approval rating on the issue.

What does that tell you about your Surrender Now Dogmas?

36 posted on 10/12/2007 11:20:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats : Don’t tell us how to fight the war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiot.)
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To: ckilmer

Trying to predict what any President will do after being elected is hazardous at best.


37 posted on 10/12/2007 11:21:21 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: dragnet2
Chief Justice John Roberts. Associate Justice Sam Alito.

Those two names prove your theory that “the parties are all the same” the product of a rabidly ignorant mind.

To say such a thing you must either be working for the Democrat Party PR machine or wholly ignorant of all factual reality when it comes to politics.

So which is it? Fool or Fraud?

38 posted on 10/12/2007 11:23:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats : Don’t tell us how to fight the war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiot.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Uh oh. The 20% is going to have their knives out for Peggy.

I like this article. It articulates something I only understood on some subconscious level before reading this.

And to Barlett if you are out there: You are a punk and a loser.

39 posted on 10/12/2007 11:24:48 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Cleveland Indians 2007, Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: dragnet2
Sadly I see little difference between the same old two parties. It like they’ve become two divisions of the same giant corporation. Most party conservatives of today, would have been labeled liberals and leftist just a few decades ago.

I totally agree. The GOP has made an ugly liberal turn.

40 posted on 10/12/2007 11:26:23 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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