Then welcome to your new masters. If you had any self respect you’d leave that cesspool behind.
As I said come say that to my face and see how you make out. I have all the self respect I need and more than you have apparently. I stay here to try and make it better. You don't leave as each state becomes liberal, eventually you run out of places to go. The correct thing, and the courageous thing, and the thing that commands the largest amount of respect, to do is to stay and try to make it right. In other words to go down fighting or to win out and restore conservatism to CA.
What you and the other dumb ass** are advocating is the same thing the Dems are pleading for and that is surrender. You think "self respecting" conservatives should leave CA and surrender to the liberals. You jerks are the ones without self respect, not I and the other conservatives still here fighting. Your idiotic reply sounds as if somehow I embrace liberals and the idiot who is governor now simply because I think we can win out eventually.
Good luck on your surrender, you are the ones who will be saying hello to "new masters" as you put it because you are willing to cave in and run like rats when things look bad.
As I said come say that to my face and see how you make out. I have all the self respect I need and more than you have apparently. I stay here to try and make it better. You don't leave as each state becomes liberal, eventually you run out of places to go. The correct thing, and the courageous thing, and the thing that commands the largest amount of respect, to do is to stay and try to make it right. In other words to go down fighting or to win out and restore conservatism to CA.
What you and the other dumb ass** are advocating is the same thing the Dems are pleading for and that is surrender. You think "self respecting" conservatives should leave CA and surrender to the liberals. You jerks are the ones without self respect, not I and the other conservatives still here fighting. Your idiotic reply sounds as if somehow I embrace liberals and the idiot who is governor now simply because I think we can win out eventually.
Good luck on your surrender, you are the ones who will be saying hello to "new masters" as you put it because you are willing to cave in and run like rats when things look bad.
Yeah, right. Is that your Foreign Policy initiative on Israel and the Palestinians, too? Or perhaps you're Neville Chamberlain reincarnate?
Liberalism infects the greatest piece of geography in the Lower 48 and you have the unadulterated panty-waisteness to advocate abandoning it to the Statist dogs?? Have you lost your freakin' MIND?!
Look, cards on the table, here; Californian Liberalism has done a great deal to make places like Idaho look REALLY appealing. Lets face it, you're not going to get disturbed by the drive-by thumpa-thump of rap crap or blaring-drunk-out-the-window mariachi music sitting on your front porch 5 miles outside, say, Idaho City.
OTOH, you're also not going to have real estate where the bare dirt is worth $1,000,000 per acre. Nor are you going to have a regular guy's 9-5 that pays $85 Large.
There are alotta nice-sounding reasons to get the heck out of California, but it really is true that, once you're gone, you all but can't come back. The economic windfall you get leaving becomes the economic barrier to your return. Worse, since the majority of that "windfall" represents the value of your appreciating assets that you cashed in on the way out, you've now got to try and find something in your new locale that performs as well, or you'll be continuously losing the differential between appreciation here, and appreciation there.
I can sell my little house on it 8300sq. ft. lot for, say, half a mil. And I could take that money and buy a newer 4 & 2 on 5 acres in or near Boise. But, guess what? Even though I've successfully reinvested my value, I'll be on the short end in terms of long-range appreciation. And -- news flash -- liberlism is happily percolating away in the Idaho State Legislature, so there'll be all the same junk to fight there, as there is here, it just won't be quite so far along.
So, why go to all the trouble to pack up and leave, go through all of the fiscal gyrations necessary to preserve the long-term value of your invested capital, just to end up fighting the same breed of liberlism that you were fighting before? When you zoom out and look at the bigger picture, leaving makes alot less sense. Not that it makes NO sense, but it's not all it's cracked up to be.