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CALNRA: Governor Signs MICROSTAMPING *AND* LEAD AMMO BAN
California NRA Members Council ^ | 10/13/2007 | Mike Haas

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:10:25 PM PDT by jrp

http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1471

http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab821

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab1471; ab821; banglist; callegislation; guncontrol; leadammo; microstamping; secondamendment; tyranny
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To: SierraWasp
Remember how he was always trying to reinvent, or re-engineer government? Willie Brown said on TV that Gore might still be the only on the Dems could really unite behind!!!

Barf. ManBearPig. I can't imagine that slob as President. Just wait until his dope smoking and drunk driving history is trotted out. Not to mention his son's DUIs in 5 different states. The guy has enough skeletons in his closet to outfit a good Halloween party.

201 posted on 10/14/2007 11:05:25 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Shion
Because we’d have to be living somewhere else for at least a year to qualify for in-state tuition?

There may be a solution for that problem. See the information at this link for reduced tuition at participating schools in the West. Many of the schools will accept a transfer from a California school and give you the reduced rates you need.

My oldest son moved right onto school at Idaho State University in Pocatello when we relocated from San Diego. There was no question of residency. We purchased our house outright. My wife took a job at the local police department. There is plenty of very affordable housing in the area.

202 posted on 10/14/2007 11:15:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: El Gato

My response was to the *sshole from Minnesota who said no self-respecting conservative would live in California. Minnesota has its share of liberals and liberalism. When I have more time I’ll give examples as to why he needs to STFU.


203 posted on 10/14/2007 11:17:35 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Calif has RINO Gov S. NY has RINO Gov. B.

Both are Dems in policy. Seems our situation is like the old USSR, multiple candidates to vote for, but one party.

With the choice of a Dem or a RINO (as the 2008 election looks to be shaping up to be), effectively the Dems control everything as the choice is a Dem or a Dem.

And Hillery talked about a “vast RIGHT wing” conspiracy?! Seems the Dems pretty much have things sewed up. Control just about all the education and media establishments, are able to put Dems (RINO’s) into the Repub Party. Got most of the lawyers and judges. What is left?

Are RINO’s a Dem plot? Don’t know, but seems has at least the basis of any other theory.


204 posted on 10/15/2007 2:50:40 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: OldArmy52

And on the other side? Repubs have Senor Bush. Right. Small wonder the contributions to the RNC are way, way down.

Why the Repub Party doesn’t give the boot to Dems like Bloomberg and Gov Democratonator, beats me. But until it does, why send it any money.

Support a genuinely conservative candidate, I can see. But the RNC? I’ll wait until they get some guts and some brains.


205 posted on 10/15/2007 3:00:01 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: Myrddin

Like ground troops in Iran, after a failed air campaign. Shudder.


206 posted on 10/15/2007 4:35:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: unixfox
Your gonna have to start with getting rid of your socialist senators and your RINO governor.

This here is "Joisey"; the gov and senators are 100% pure socialist. Our local congressman is kind'a RINO, though!

207 posted on 10/15/2007 5:36:14 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: OldArmy52
Small wonder the contributions to the RNC are way, way down.

I've replied to each funds solicitation with a note stating that I will resume donating when the border is closed (or a reasonable effort to do so is underway) and when some unnescessary spending is opposed or vetoed.

208 posted on 10/15/2007 5:42:12 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: panaxanax
There are plenty of good conservatives in NY, CA & NJ. Maybe we choose not to run away from the fight. Someone has to man the front lines.

Actually, you're the paratroopers - behind enemy lines and surrounded.

209 posted on 10/15/2007 6:32:38 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Actually, you're the paratroopers - behind enemy lines and surrounded.

300 Million Americans and only 4 million members of the NRA.

This thread sounds like a battle being fought by Coffee Shop Generals.

210 posted on 10/15/2007 7:00:14 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: saganite
If you had any self respect you’d leave that cesspool behind.

Yeah, right. Is that your Foreign Policy initiative on Israel and the Palestinians, too? Or perhaps you're Neville Chamberlain reincarnate?

Liberalism infects the greatest piece of geography in the Lower 48 and you have the unadulterated panty-waisteness to advocate abandoning it to the Statist dogs?? Have you lost your freakin' MIND?!

Look, cards on the table, here; Californian Liberalism has done a great deal to make places like Idaho look REALLY appealing. Lets face it, you're not going to get disturbed by the drive-by thumpa-thump of rap crap or blaring-drunk-out-the-window mariachi music sitting on your front porch 5 miles outside, say, Idaho City.

OTOH, you're also not going to have real estate where the bare dirt is worth $1,000,000 per acre. Nor are you going to have a regular guy's 9-5 that pays $85 Large.

There are alotta nice-sounding reasons to get the heck out of California, but it really is true that, once you're gone, you all but can't come back. The economic windfall you get leaving becomes the economic barrier to your return. Worse, since the majority of that "windfall" represents the value of your appreciating assets that you cashed in on the way out, you've now got to try and find something in your new locale that performs as well, or you'll be continuously losing the differential between appreciation here, and appreciation there.

I can sell my little house on it 8300sq. ft. lot for, say, half a mil. And I could take that money and buy a newer 4 & 2 on 5 acres in or near Boise. But, guess what? Even though I've successfully reinvested my value, I'll be on the short end in terms of long-range appreciation. And -- news flash -- liberlism is happily percolating away in the Idaho State Legislature, so there'll be all the same junk to fight there, as there is here, it just won't be quite so far along.

So, why go to all the trouble to pack up and leave, go through all of the fiscal gyrations necessary to preserve the long-term value of your invested capital, just to end up fighting the same breed of liberlism that you were fighting before? When you zoom out and look at the bigger picture, leaving makes alot less sense. Not that it makes NO sense, but it's not all it's cracked up to be.

211 posted on 10/15/2007 8:23:52 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: blackie; Cyrano; shaggy eel; GOPPachyderm; TommyDale

nuts.


212 posted on 10/15/2007 9:06:49 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Still Thinking

We have to run the squatters out. We did it when Ronald Reagan was elected and we can do it again.

If not, Hasta La Vista Republiquenos!!!


213 posted on 10/15/2007 9:46:21 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: jrp

off to wallyworld for another 200 rounds of .556...


214 posted on 10/15/2007 10:09:39 AM PDT by woollyone (Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities- Ayn Rand)
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To: HKMk23

Fine. Stay. You’ll get what you deserve. Flash: Kali is already a liberal cesspool. Good luck with that.


215 posted on 10/15/2007 12:03:01 PM PDT by saganite
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To: jrp

bump


216 posted on 10/15/2007 12:33:18 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Travis McGee
Like ground troops in Iran, after a failed air campaign

I don't know if there will be ground troops in Iran, although it would not surprise me. But there WILL NOT be a failed air campaign, unless it's because the RINOs and Rats get cold feet, and/or continue cutting the Air Force and Navy, and utilizing their wrench turners as infantry and MPs. Leaving to few to "keep 'em flying". Or they scrimp on air munitions, especially precision guided ones.

But if all that happens, there also won't be enough beans and bullets for the ground troops.

217 posted on 10/15/2007 9:53:28 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

There is a high prob scenario for getting sucked into a ground war in Iran, namely, Iran retaliating for US air strikes by using their hidden anti-ship missiles to close the Hormuz. These missiles are mobile and hidden over a vast area, and will not be easily found or destroyed from the air only. Just a thought.


218 posted on 10/16/2007 5:24:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: TYVets
This thread sounds like a battle being fought by Coffee Shop Generals.

I'm on the board of directors of my state's NRA affiliate organization, was a founding member of the Golden State Second Amendment Council, served as an officer of the Silicon Valley NRA Members' Council, and led the Citizens of America media buy efforts in Silicon Valley. I was a leader and organizer of the first effort to amend the California Constitution to add the RKBA.

I used to be a California gun rights paratrooper, but I decided to vote with my feet, since voting with a stylus didn't make any difference. McClintock lost, Arnold won, and the microstamping bill they've been trying to ram through for years now finally passed after years of failure under Grey-out Davis.

It's pitiful.

219 posted on 10/16/2007 7:45:05 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: HKMk23

You make some good points, but I made the decision to leave Cali in late 2005.
Part of it was a layoff in 2003. The bloom was off the rose for me in the Silicon Valley at that point. And I was disheartened by the takeover of the CA GOP by the celebrity RINO worshippers- I was a McClintock guy.
I’d been priced out of the Bay Area housing market anyway- at least here in AZ I have a chance to afford a place of my own. I’m looking to buy within the next year.

On the other hand, I do sometimes wonder if I limited my chances for future advancement by leaving the Silicon Valley but I really do like the freedom Arizona offers its citizens and although they are not perfect I’m much happier with John McCain and John Kyl as my Senators then Boxer and Feinstein.

And the gate is not permanently barred for my return to CA, the company I work for is located in CA and I still have lots of business contacts there.


220 posted on 10/16/2007 5:34:29 PM PDT by hawkboy (Duncan Hunter '08!)
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