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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.

Please check out Phsstpok’s EXCELLENT Sunday Talk Show PRE-Thread. It’s a great way to hear analysis on why the DBM picks the guests, what they’ll probably discuss, and other pertinent facts. Also, check out his blog!

Caller on cspan from Connecticutt a few minutes ago

I thought she was imitating a Rush illustration of absurdity by being absurd, but she apparently believed that what she said made sense.

“Good morning, guys.[to Steve Scully and James Barnes of the National Journal] You know, I am so sick of this election talk, I have the perfect ticket that will solve all of our problems.
Al Gore - to take his rightful place
Ron Reagan, jr - I have seen him on a lot of talk shows, and he is an intellectual charismatic.
We can get Bush and Cheney out of the White House, get rid of the delegates, and the Electoral College.
All we have to do is March on Washington and demand...
and on and on...”

Alas, I'm sorry, but I've just GOT to fix this error.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, RRINO-S.C.

Thanks! I feel much better.

Here are the ratings from two weeks ago:

Meet the Press....2.7/8 3,614,000
This Week.........2.0/6 2,712,000
Face the Nation...1.9/5 2,427,000
Fox News Sunday...1.0/3 1,216,000

All in all, the Sunday talk shows seem to be on an upward trend except for Fox News Sunday.

It should probably be a fixture of the Sunday Talk Show thread that we include the Wikipedia backgrounds for some of the hosts of these shows. For instance: Tim Russert’s is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Russert and Freepers should be reminded that he was a staffer for Former Governor Mario Cuomo (D) and Former Senator of NY Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D). No bias there...

And here’s the link for George Stephanopolous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stephanopolous No bias there... Actually, this entry really has some good juicy reminders: of Stephie’s role in trying to quash the investigation of Madison Guaranty along with the work of Roger Altman (one of Hillary’s top economic advisors).

To be fair and balanced, here’s the entries for Chris Wallace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wallace_%28journalist%29

And I don’t care about the rest.

I sent an e-mail to Chris Wallace last night encouraging him to press Rep. Hoyer about the treasonous Turkey/Armenia/Genocide resolution. The Dems can’t stand that good news is coming out of Iraq. They have to stir the pot and offend an ally who has given us overflight rights for our men and material. I’m so angry about this. President Bush and some ten former Secretaries of State pleaded with the Dems not to do this.

This action has the potential to put the lives of American soldiers and Kurds in danger. Turkey has been waiting for a reason to attack the Kurds. Nancy and company have given them good reason by offending them. Some have dubbed it “Nancy’s War”. Indeed.

...excellent. :)

Rush Limbaugh is auctioning off the Reid fake outrage letter on ebay

Currently $40,200.

at $40,200 dollars that is $980.49 per prostituted signature

It is also worth noting:

47 HOURS AND THE MSM CONTINUES TO HIDE THIS STORY!
no mention or coverage of this in any media outlet not even the MSM.

Drudge report had to do a direct link to the ebay page and show a youtube.com video of Rush making the announcement. NO AP or Reuters story even!

Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, both signed this phoney outrage letter to silence Rush.

The ebay auction has 117467 views

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Harry-Reid-Rush-Limbaugh-Smear-Letter_W0QQitemZ260170172469QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4105QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Rush Limbaugh is auctioning off the Reid fake outrage letter on ebay

Currently $40,200.

at $40,200 dollars that is $980.49 per prostituted signature

It is also worth noting:

47 HOURS AND THE MSM CONTINUES TO HIDE THIS STORY!
no mention or coverage of this in any media outlet not even the MSM.

Drudge report had to do a direct link to the ebay page and show a youtube.com video of Rush making the announcement. NO AP or Reuters story even!

Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, both signed this phoney outrage letter to silence Rush.

The ebay auction has 117467 views

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Harry-Reid-Rush-Limbaugh-Smear-Letter_W0QQitemZ260170172469QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4105QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Morning everyone!

self ping for later
it’s my birthday....................wooooooohooooooo

On this week, George Will says
‘Al Gore has been vindicated’
or so say his supporters

More like Gore has been SPINdicated , imo

a world gone mad, well, at least a media. ;-)

Okay, here’s the story of the RINO and the insult.

I’ve been active with Delaware politics of late, joining the Sussex county Repub Women’s Club and attending Sussex county monthly Repub meetings.

I am acquainted with the Chairman of the Sussex county Repub party but just in passing. He is a Blogger and so am I thus we talk about it, we discuss politics, he leads the monthly meetings. At times I hang around after the monthly meeting and talk….duh…politics.

Dave Burris’ Blog is:

http://firststatepolitics.wordpress.com/ should anyone care. Dave is resigning as head of the Sussex county Repub party because, well he says he wants more time with his family but I think he’s going to head a local guy’s run for Delaware’s Governor. The more important thing to know here is that Delaware has THREE counties. One is Sussex county which, oddly, although located in a very small state, is the largest county east of the Mississippi. It is also very conservative in terms of idealogy.

I love Sussex county. The churches are filled each Sunday, the people INSIST on conservative representatives, not the RINOS from up north, …in short the people of Sussex county Delaware are much…like me as a matter of fact. Stick tongue in cheek here and smile ruefully.

So I’ve been involved with all this pubbie stuff in Delaware’s Sussex county and been right happy doing it, in fact. I manned the pubbie booth at the Delaware state fair. I shared the job with a fellow I’d met at a monthly meeting, a great guy, married with four kids. He’s devoted to his family and has a great smile. A couple of years ago he threw his hat in the ring and ran for senator. No, not senator like Joe Biden, but a Delaware senator. Like the federal government, Delaware has senators and representatives. The representatives in Dover, based on population, are Republican majority because MOST OF DELAWARE is conservative save the cheats in Wilmington.

I also was head of the advertisement for a recent fundraiser put on by the Sussex County Repub Women’s Club…SCRWC. I wrote and promoted ads for the mighty annual banquet, I worked the front desk the night of the banquet, I even donated a bunch of mine own books, written by me, for the Chinese auction. The SCRWC is one mighty organization and raises a great deal of money for the pub party. I’m right in there and working like the dickens. In fact, I am involved as a consultant for two of the biggest businesses here in Sussex county and I got them both to put big advertisements in the banquet’s booklet. So I went out there and raised money, yes I did. I estimate that for this banquet I alone raised over $5 grand, yes I did.

I began to frequent Burris’ Blog. Now here was something a bit different for while I regularly post on FreeRepublic, I don’t really KNOW anyone on Freerepublic save via the Internet. In the case of the Burris Blog, well hell’s bells, a lot of those posters KNOW me, personally like.

Kinda cool.

But hey, not only am I vivacious and happening in person (and not bad looking for a middle aged woman, that seems to be an important thing about women), insert wink here, BUT I CAN WRITE! Well the shock of it! These folks who knew me, mostly men but a few women, were surprised by this. Women don’t read Blogs as much as men, I don’t know why.

Well the folks from Sussex county knew me. It was the RINOS from up north all posting with nastiness that didn’t know me from Adam.

Yon readers, RINOS are as nasty as the Dems whose idealology they often espouse. RINO means Republican in Name Only. I didn’t know this about the nastiness. I thought, well they might be RINOS but hey, they have some kind conservatism in them, right?

Many of them are members of Delaware’s mighty teacher’s union so that makes them schizoid. Conservative philosophy is not especially favorable to a union that would kill creativity while promoting mediocrity. But these teachers might have children or causes that are conservative in nature. Thus we have a RINO and Delaware tends to elect RINO politicians like Mike Castle, our REPUB RINO rep…you can study his history. Hint-he voted in FAVOR of embryonic stem cell research and AGAINST drilling in Anwar. The RINOS in Delaware LOVE Mike Castle while the Repubs in Sussex county can’t stand the man.

So I go and start posting on this Burris Blog and lo and behold there’s RINOS all over the place. I made some nasty post about Mike Castle and they jumped all over me. That’s when I began to understand the phenomena of the “slightly” blue state like Delaware.

In one post I complained that the Repubs in Delaware are a tightly guarded group of elites who show no imagination and , indeed, don’t even represent the state’s demographic. I made some reference to the annual Delaware Repub convention and the “delegates”, all of whom are people I’ve never heard of in many cases but yet these people have the power to nominate the candidates for Governor, senator, rep and such.

This is a common complaint, especially in Delaware’s Sussex County. Sussex county will often back an independent candidate rather than the “official” nominee of Delaware’s Repub party because, well we usually hate them. Said nominees nominated by “delegates” given the job by, well I don’t know who.

It’s been said that I have a big mouth, or else loud fingers as the case may be. So I post my lament about the elite delegates of the Del Repub party always nominating candidates, lousy ones that don’t even come close I might add.

Evidently I offended some fellow from Wilmington (ALL the RINOS are from Wilmington) who then launched into a rant against me that….well it was blistering.

I don’t have the link to this post and I won’t go searching for it. Because after this guy did this I immediately posted that I would never post to this thread again because, hey I do this stuff. People who are vexations to my spirit don’t get second thought from me. Life is too short and there’s plenty of genuinely nice and fair people on this planet.

But I’ll paraphrase his shocking response…”You should get off of your fat ass (my ass is a bit big but I’ve seen far bigger, what’s the obsession with my butt?) and go out to a meeting once in a while. People like you just sit and complain but don’t lift your finger to help. Sit and talk to Bob Lee after a monthly meeting (Ed note-Lee was a Repub candidate for Governor in 2004 and Bob is his son…ALSO A delegate to the Del Repub convention). You should volunteer to work at the Delaware state fair. You should work for the women’s repub club and help raise some money”.

Well this guy’s rant went on and on so now you know why I delineated the things I’d been doing for Del’s repub party above because I had done PRECISELY all the things he accused me and my fat ass of NOT doing.

That’s when I wrote my withering response to his lies, this REPUBLICAN ELITE because his clueless response illustrated EXACTLY what I’d been saying. His world view didn’t go beyond a few folks in his surround.

Of course many of the other posters tuned in and defended me. My Delaware state fair buddy said he worked with me for four hours and found me delightful and fun. Bob Lee said he’d chatted with me after a recent meeting and he enjoyed my discourse. Young Lee also said that perhaps, what with his father having been a candidate for Governor, he would be viewed as the ELITEs I’d been describing. Duh. Others piped up about chats they’d had with me and how much they enjoyed what I had to say.

Oh yeah….I can talk. There’s been times I’ve had a circle of them around me and I’d be putting on a show to beat the band, such is my sometimes humorous passion on some things.

So the fellow who wrote that stupid response did apologize on the Blog and he did it sweetly. He said he was so sorry he opened his mouth and inserted his foot, that if I never spoke to him again (which I told him I would not) he would forever be a lesser person for it (well that is a rather nice sentiment) and yada, yada.

Frankly I don’t know the guy and will likely never meet him. But he jumped in with his stock response to any who would dare to suggest that maybe these entrenched so deep that they don’t see the horizon should rethink how they do things. It was a PERFECT example of the political elite, right there in front of the world’s lying eyes.

Anyway, let me get on to the Rush Limbaugh thing. I’ve bored you enough.

Special on “Angler” or our wonderful VP Cheney being replayed on Fox now.

Mark Kilmer has posted his review of the Sunday shows. Here's the header and the link to the full review

Posted at 12:58pm on Oct. 14, 2007

The Sunday Morning Talk Shows - The Review

It's 2007, and we better condemn the Young Turks because the genocide survivors are, Nancy said, "very old." (HINT: Most have long since died.)

By Mark Kilmer

Sunday, October 14, 2007
First on FOX News Sunday, with Brit Hume in for Chris Wallace, House Republican leader John Boehner accused Democrats of playing political games with both the SCHIP vote and the strange resolution, out-of-the-blue, on the Young Turks killing the Armenians, 1915-1917.
Next on FNS, Steny Hoyer proclaimed that the SCHIP vote was a "defining moment for the Republican Party." Will they choose to be compassionate or to follow their leaders blindly? On the World War I resolution, Hoyer scolded the Turkish government with being more concerned about a Congressional resolution than with their own security problems. (Likewise, I'll add, the Congressional Democrats should be more concerned with the well-being of our soldiers in Iraq and the region than with a specious proclamation designed to harm Republicans by hampering the efforts of our troops.
On MTP, Drs. Bill Cosby and Alvin Poussaint were on a book tour, discussing what ails the black community. Poussaint talked of the effects of the women's liberation movement on the black community, and the availability of qualified black men for marriage, which he blamed in part of the mandatory sentencing laws for crack cocaine. Cosby attacked the record company executives who demand the harsh lyrics in hip-hop music.
On TW, Speaker Nancy argued that the time is right to condemn the 90-year-old genocide perpetrated by the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire against the Armenians during World War I because "many of the survivors are very old." (Most of them are dead, Nancy; the entire remainder are, by definition, very old.) She said that Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, and torture were more dangerous to our troops than jeopardizing their supply lines into Iraq. And more of the standard Dem rhetoric: no compromise on SCHIP, etc.
Mitch McConnell was next on TW, telling Steph that there would be a compromise on SCHIP because they had to pass something. He predicted that this would be a "short term controversy." He offered a Washington Post editorial to counter General Sanchez's rants, and he said that the Senate Ethics Committee was dealing with Larry Craig.
On FTN, John McCain, in response to Bob Schieffer's questioning, pointed out Romney's flip from having once been "passionately pro-choice," as well as flips on immigration and taxes. He asked for a "little consistency." McCain said that his main problem with retired General Sanchez was that the general was not honest with the Senate early in the Iraq war, waiting until now to make assertions that would have helped McCain get rid of the "Rumsfeld policy" when it would have helped. McCain allowed that this may have happened because General Eric Shinseki was "fired" for speaking truth to power.
First on LE, Lindsey Graham told Wolf Blitzer that Sanchez had repeatedly told him that he had enough troops to prevail in Iraq. Blitzer suggested that Sanchez might be doing "pay back" for not getting his fourth star. Graham replied that the Abu Ghraib scandal was "out of control" under Sanchez's watch, as was the war itself. Graham gave the Maliki government until the end of the year to get its act together on reconciliation.
Next on LE, unrepentant Jimmy Carterite Zbigniew Brzezinski differentiated between our staying in Germany and Japan after World War II and plans to maintain a presence in Iraq by stating that Iraq is a "colonial war," while the Second World War was not. He said that it was "delusional" to call the war in Iraq any sort of World War III against the jihad. He laughed at General David Petraeus's statement that the Iraq Quds force was attacking us in Iran by point that of course the Quds would attack us when we were sponsoring enemies of the Iraqi government. On the Congressional Democrats' Young Turk Genocide resolution, Brzezinski pointed out that Congress had no business passing strange historical resolutions. He ignored that the resolution is designed only to achieve an end with which he agrees, i.e. disruption of the war effort in Iraq.
Read More (for the complete, show-by-show review). …Read More »

It looks like the assessment here on this thread about the reason for the Turkey genocide resolution is becoming the consensus. It also looks like I was right in the preview to suggest that the reason Cosby and Poussant were on MTP was to bolster the Obama/Edwards (fictional) position that more black men were in prison than in college. (see here for details)

It was a treat having Brit Hume moderate FNS today. His interview of Republican John Boehner was informative and Boehner was serious, getting a lot across in a short time. He explained that the veto of SCHIP was because the program has drifted from helping poor children caught between Medicaid and affordability of private insurance. He specified Minn and Wisc as having more adults than children benefiting from SCHIP and Republicans want to make sure the money goes to where it was intended, poor children. Regarding Turkey, Boehner essentially said the current, or third, proposal by the RATS to condemn the nearly century old genocide of Armenians was bad for American troops etc. OTOH, democ rat Steny Hoyer shucked and jived his way thru all discussions the same as Hillary did in her interview with Chris Wallace. These RAT politicians talk, talk, talk, saying absolutely nothing of substance and outright lying by omission of pertinent facts. Hoyer had that same smart ass smirky, cat who caught the canary, look that Hillary's co-president Bill was known for. Hoyer has been involved for 25 yrs with the condemnation proposals and sees now as a very good time to bring one up yet again. Not at all concerned about the war repercussion because Turkey needs us more than we need them. So he says. On the SCHIP deal, well the RATS have their own magnificent plan which they are now working tirelessly to churn out in the near future. No doubt the one that raises the definition of children to age 25, and the poverty level to $80,000. And, lest anybody forgets, the Republicans do not care about children, especially poor ones. Lord, these RATS do disgust me.

Honorable Mention Awards for Sunday, October 14th, 2007

Alas Babylon!

#53; "Nah, it’s just Connecticut. It’s a RAT hole. Connecticut, after all, is the NUTmeg state. ... Remember what the looney left there did to Joe Liebermann. At least enough of what’s left of the Republican party there voted for him over the idiot the dems selected."

Arrowhead1952

#42; "Yeah, that would be a winner. Gore / Reagan unity ticket? Who is she kidding? Must be a real hippie liberal like we have in Austin." (Note: reply to maica's post #16)
#66; "Most of the NE coast should be considered a RAT hole, just like Austin is in Texas. Remember that article about ronnie earle running through the woods naked a few weeks ago? Not a single word in the Austin paper about that incident. ... If that had been the Republican DA from Williamson county, it would have been on the front page above the fold for several days." (Note: reply to Alas Babylon!'s post #53)
#90; "The DBM is desperate about silencing Rush and other talk show hosts, so they have the monopoly for all the “news” (lies) that is fit to print or spread on TV. Look at their ratings and you will see why they are doing nothing to tell the truth about Rush. I don’t even turn on the tube anymore and I intend to stop my Austin paper when the current subscription expires."
#170; "... Check this thread. I think Dingy harry has lost it completely. ... Harry Reid: Evangelicals are 'anti-Christian'"

Bernard

#97; "'Don't they ever give up and face reality?' ... No, they don't. That's why President Hillary Clinton is just as inevitable as President John Kerry was in 2004, and as inevitable as President Al Gore was in 2000."
#101; "I think it is a good idea for Democrats, and especially democrat staffers on a government payroll, to get their shots before they are allowed out in public. After all, I have to provide evidence that my dogs have their rabies shots before I can get a tag for them, so it sounds about right to get some kind of guarantee that the staffers won't infect decent people while they are outside the beltway. ... Won't be long before somebody proposes changing the name of the town from Washington to Trantor."
#257; "It used to be important in America to eliminate disease, or at least minimize the risk of human beings contracting bad diseases. Then the perceived need for cheap labor came along, and now we have seen the rebirth of TB, measles, etc. as illegal aliens bring back all sorts of things to this country."

Fishtalk

#26; "And yet they let these people on the air, like they’re normal or something. ... I’d like to point out that one of the more amusing Moonbat actions this past week was the edict for staff members of the Homeland Security committee to get their innoculations before mingling with the riff-raff at NASCAR as they go on their fact-finding mission. ... The edict called for shots against all sorts of nasty stuff like diptheria and, get this, Hepititus...the real bad one. ... If anything illustrates how these political elites view the great unwashed who carry this country on their backs while raising the citizens and soldiers of tomorrow, it is this memorandum that would prevent our betters from getting the diseases we so obviously spread. ... I could tell y’all a story about how I caught a Delaware political elite being...well “elite” comes to mind. I did it in public and it was almost better than sex. I had that RINO begging me to forgive him....well maybe later. I’m still reveling in the moment. ... Oh, and there’s that personal email I got from Rush Limbaugh. He apologized to me, yes he did. Again, maybe later. ... Good stories and if you beg me, maybe I’ll share them. ... Heh." (Note: reply to maica's post #16)

freedom4me

#23; "I sent an e-mail to Chris Wallace last night encouraging him to press Rep. Hoyer about the treasonous Turkey/Armenia/Genocide resolution. The Dems can’t stand that good news is coming out of Iraq. They have to stir the pot and offend an ally who has given us overflight rights for our men and material. I’m so angry about this. President Bush and some ten former Secretaries of State pleaded with the Dems not to do this. ... This action has the potential to put the lives of American soldiers and Kurds in danger. Turkey has been waiting for a reason to attack the Kurds. Nancy and company have given them good reason by offending them. Some have dubbed it 'Nancy’s War'. Indeed."

HonestConservative

#198; "McConnell wisely reminds Snuplleupagus that Republican Congress started s chip back in the early 90s, of course with Teddy and Hillary in the mix."
#213; "Watching Snuppleupagus, ... These folks better get up, run around and find the gas leak. ... The are simply inhaling different air than we are."
#221; "Listening to TW, you’d think the other candidates might as well just get out of the way, because MCCain is back. ... 1. Tancredo kicked his but in the last debate. ... 2. McCain is not liked within the party and certainly can’t be trusted. ... He belongs in the 'Snowballschanceinhell Party' ..."
#261; "For your reading pleasure, Tancredo’s KO of McLame: ... TANCREDO: I just want to quickly respond. I certainly can agree with the senator on one thing: that the government — that the people of this country believe that the government is broken and hasn’t fixed their problems to a large extent because of the senator’s efforts in support of illegal immigration. That’s one reason why they’re concerned. ... And you’re absolutely right. The government hasn’t fixed the problem. And for every single illegal immigrant family in this country, it costs $20,000 — it costs us $20,000, $20,000 in infrastructural costs. They pay about $10,000 in taxes. You really want to do something to restore the people’s faith in government, do something about illegal immigration, don’t just talk about it."

jmyrlefuller

#43; "BTW... this is the interview on FNS with John Boehner. ... Boehner calls out the bill as a political pawn that was never meant to be passed and that the Dems are playing games. ... Guy on FNS: But this is a painful vote, isn’t it? ... Boehner: Well, when haven’t we been called mean? ... FNS: But Welfare reform was popular! ... What a weasel..."
#94; "They’re right, it is turning, but in the opposite direction..." (Note: reply to anita's post #92)
#99; "What gets me is that they still call it a “Nobel Peace Prize” when they’ve now changed the criteria, in DIRECT VIOLATION OF MR. NOBEL’S WILL, to account for that liberal ideal of “social change.” It’s not even a peace prize anymore!"

Miss Didi

#32; "Good morning, All. Queen Bee Pelosi again? And no Algore??? Mrs. Clinton must have put the kibosh on any Algore fawning this morning. By the way, Rush's letter on eBay is currently over $40,000...there is a good thread going on here: ... Rush Pokes Democrats In Eye With A Sharp Stick ... Rush to Excellence Speech for WPHT-AM Philadelphia"
#83; "Rush was fuming about this on Friday: ... Left Marks Turkish Genocide in Effort to Harm Ally in the Iraq War " (Note: reply to freedom4me's post #23)

mountainfolk

#329; "It was a treat having Brit Hume moderate FNS today. His interview of Republican John Boehner was informative and Boehner was serious, getting a lot across in a short time. He explained that the veto of SCHIP was because the program has drifted from helping poor children caught between Medicaid and affordability of private insurance. He specified Minn and Wisc as having more adults than children benefiting from SCHIP and Republicans want to make sure the money goes to where it was intended, poor children. Regarding Turkey, Boehner essentially said the current, or third, proposal by the RATS to condemn the nearly century old genocide of Armenians was bad for American troops etc. OTOH, democ rat Steny Hoyer shucked and jived his way thru all discussions the same as Hillary did in her interview with Chris Wallace. These RAT politicians talk, talk, talk, saying absolutely nothing of substance and outright lying by omission of pertinent facts. Hoyer had that same smart ass smirky, cat who caught the canary, look that Hillary's co-president Bill was known for. Hoyer has been involved for 25 yrs with the condemnation proposals and sees now as a very good time to bring one up yet again. Not at all concerned about the war repercussion because Turkey needs us more than we need them. So he says. On the SCHIP deal, well the RATS have their own magnificent plan which they are now working tirelessly to churn out in the near future. No doubt the one that raises the definition of children to age 25, and the poverty level to $80,000. And, lest anybody forgets, the Republicans do not care about children, especially poor ones. Lord, these RATS do disgust me."

NormsRevenge

#219; "On this week, George Will says ‘Al Gore has been vindicated’ or so say his supporters ... More like Gore has been SPINdicated , imo ... a world gone mad, well, at least a media. ;-)"

PrinceOfCups

#138; "... The UAE is the World's best example of unbridled capitalism at work. I simply love the energy there. The country, in many ways, mirrors the USA in the late 1800's with their own brand of tycoons.... "

ReleaseTheHounds

#18; "It should probably be a fixture of the Sunday Talk Show thread that we include the Wikipedia backgrounds for some of the hosts of these shows. For instance: Tim Russert’s is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Russert and Freepers should be reminded that he was a staffer for Former Governor Mario Cuomo (D) and Former Senator of NY Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D). No bias there... And here’s the link for George Stephanopolous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stephanopolous No bias there... Actually, this entry really has some good juicy reminders: of Stephie’s role in trying to quash the investigation of Madison Guaranty along with the work of Roger Altman (one of Hillary’s top economic advisors). ... To be fair and balanced, here’s the entries for Chris Wallace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wallace_%28journalist%29 ... And I don’t care about the rest."

STARWISE

#196; "Speaking of the irrepressible Rush, here’s the video of him announcing the Reid smearing letter was going on ebay. ... You can see how emotional he is about this.. ... gets a bit teary in his anger and his unrelenting support of our awesome troops. ... What sheer brilliance! ... It’s up to $40,400! ... Announcement on his site..."

TN4Liberty

#175; "I’m sitting here watching “This Week.” The panel agrees on two things regarding the GOP; Thompson is a lightweight and McCain is making a big comeback. What are they smoking?"

Top Ten for September 14, 2007

10th Place bray

#107; "... Still can’t see the Country wanting to go back to the co-clinton years. Their campaign slogan was 'Everybody Does It'."
#120; "Of course the tide is turning on Cut & Run since they don’t want to get run over by the Victory Parades....if they will allow Victory Parades...." (Note: reply to anita's post #92)
#142; "The whole purpose of the Resolution is to cause problems with Turkey and shut down the Northern highway. Too late for Do Nothing Nancy to insure our loss. The Surge Has Worked and Victory is Near w/o the Rats...."
#149; "I do not understand the Phone Booth mentality of many Conservatives. I think that there is a superiority complex of many that nobody is as conservative as me so I won’t soil my hands with these lessers. ... Individually it may be refreshing but Nationally it is a disaster. That will insure a Communist Country and is exactly what the Rats are counting. They understand incrementalism and have been doing it while our Walk on Water Conservatives have been Washing Their Hands. ..."
#189; "Exactly, the primary is where you campaign and get Your candidate elected. However, if your candidate is not elected you don’t sit out the General because now there is not a “conservative” by your definition. ... Rush Limbaugh could run and he wouldn’t be Conservative enough for me, but if he is my only choice then it is incrementally better than HilaryCare. Same goes for all our candidates...."
#201; "You wonder if PravdABDNCBS has figured out yet that InSane is not going to win w/o the Base?? Tough when his Base is who has been vilifying us for 40 years. Kinda like pushing a rope uphill...."

9th Place tarheelswamprat

#34; "Someone should contact John Boy & Billy or Rush Limbaugh, et al. and suggest they start a national public service radio campaign urging anyone planning to visit Washington, DC on vacation and possibly tour the US Capitol Building and the House and Senate visitor galleries to get their shots as well. ... After all, there’s no telling what sort of cooties those Congressmen, Senators and their staff are carrying, not to mention the communicable disease threat presented by all those MSM types who constantly hang around there."
#215; "'Whenever the Dem/commies go unchallenged you can be sure they will rewrite history.' ... Thank you for stating once again this vitally important Truth. It cannot be overstated or repeated too often. ... The Leftists, just like the Islamists, never, ever concede the Struggle. If they lose a battle, or even a war, the survivors immediately regroup and begin planning a fresh offensive. If they agree to negotiate, compromise, call a truce or sign an agreement it is invariably a ploy, a strategem, a 'hudna' if you will, to buy time for them to regroup, rearm and then resume the attack at a more favorable opportunity. The control of language and history are major weapons in their arsenal. ... They are, in short, implacable totalitarians for whom the terms "compromise" and "agreement" are merely battle tactics, not an end in themselves, and 'peace' means the destruction of their opponents and the eventual 'absence of resistance' (socialists) and 'submission' (Islamist) to the imposition of their will. ... I believe that the great lesson of the Twenty-First Century, as yet unlearned, will be that the utopian dream of compromise and co-existance with these virulent, anti-life, anti-human and anti-God belief systems is simply not possible. Unfortunately, the cost will be horrific." (Note: reply to rodguy911's post #125)

8th Place snugs

#127; "Whilst I agree in principle with the resolution passed in Congress (my mother had an Armenia friend as a child who she re-contacted a few years before her death) I also disagree strongly with it as you say it puts coalition soldiers in danger. ... Turkey is tinder box waiting to erupt and things like this resolution starts the smoldering. The coalition needs Turkey airspace and their goodwill. It is a similar dilemma that the EU have with Turkey waiting Membership which again in principle I am against but one has to be pragmatic. At present the EU has granted Turkey most of the trade agreements that the EU have with other EU members but Turkey want full Membership but refuse to recognise a fellow member of the EU Cyprus."
#197; "I would also add to that decline in moral compass due to the State replacing the church which is probably part of what you are referring to in welfare. ... The saddest statistic I find this side of the pond and is probably true in the States as well the number of young kids having babies at 15, 16, 17 etc just so they get social security payments and a flat (apartment) When the Tories a few years ago suggested if elected that they would stop these entitlements in an effort to stop teenage pregnancies they were called mean, out of touch and trying to enforce outdated moral standards. Sound familiar? ... What is actually needed here IMHO is and although I do not like the idea of my money spent on it it is better than just hand outs is to try to get to the root of the problem which is the breakdown of family life. ... At present in Britain it seems that Labour has no new ideas and immediately the Tories suggest something that could work they adopt it. We have seen this twice in the last week. Once with inheritance tax the government now looks as if it is going with the Tories proposal on a higher threshold and also taxing non domiciles which is something that has to be addressed as it costing the treasury millions. The latest one is that they are looking at rewarding tax breaks for married couples something they took away and the Tories want to re-introduce in order to promote marriage. The Labour Party made tax credit available for those with children which you have to apply for but includes non married couples but took away tax relief if you were married with no children something that traditionally we have always had."
#209; "I also think that the white community are deluding themselves if they think it solely a problem of the black community maybe statistically more but it affects both. ... I think with the white community when relationships break down more males continue to financially support and see the children so this distorts the figures, also white males are more inclined to live or marry white women with children from other relationships which again distorts the figures. ... I would like to see figures where you have families over a ten year period of male, female and children how many of the children are the biological or adopted children of that couple, I suspect not many. ... The breakdown in family life is ruining society in my opinion and people seem to see nothing wrong in it especially if mummy or daddy has remarried. In most cases though they have left emotionally damaged children along the way. ... I can remember in Britain when Ronald Reagan was elected the outrage in certain areas that America would elect a President who had been divorced today no one would bat an eyelid. It was also considered an anti with Margret Thatcher that she was married to a divorcee - my how have times changed and not for the better."

7th Place anita

#4; "... Wallace is sad that he can't get Al Gore. Looks like McCain has few more nails he need to put on his primary coffin before ending his bid. ... Meanwhile, this is today's Washington Post editorial ! ... 'It's looking more and more as though those in and outside of Congress who last month were assailing Gen. Petraeus'scredibility and insisting that there was no letup in Iraq's bloodshed were -- to put it simply -- wrong'. ... Steffy or Wallace challenge the dems?"
#8; "Poor dems - I mean “journalists”. Rush will make money out of air (besides the audible). Now dems & journos awed @ what Rush is doing with their letter to Clear channel. You don’t mess with Texas & Rush."
#38; "Bill Kristol makes sense, again -> Cheer Up!"
#58; "... Here 's this sunday's Media Nuggets ..."
#92; "Mara Liasson & Mort Kondracke on Fox panel said earlier that tide is turning for Iraq troop withdrawal with straight face & they weren’t challenged."
#139; "Good point. O’Reilly was blabbering on Leno that Fred Thompson is “fearing” to face him on factor. Having seen the respect BOR shown to Romney, McCain & Guiliani, why any Conservative would want to show up on his show?"
#147; "... Great Point. Also, atleast after getting the nomination, our candidate should devise his own strategy to rally the base - just saying for all things Reagan is not enough. Learn somethings from the current President - how he organized & rallied the Republicans winning 2 elections against all odds." (Note: reply to rodguy911's post #135)
#193; "RALPH PETERS writes in NYPost: Playing Politics with Genocide. ... How the democrats are using the Armenians to get their way in Iraq."

6th Place Bahbah

#44; "MTP is discussing the absence of fathers in today’s black families. ... No one yet has talked about how this happened. Oh, here we go...it’s women’s liberation and the absence of a stigma on having children out of wedlock. ... Will anyone mention welfare?"
#51; "The cause of the problems in the black families is systemic racism. ... I like Bill Cosby, but this is one of the worst segments I have ever seen. That’s too bad, because there is a message that needs to get out there. ... It is not happening on this show."
#57; "The problem for the black community is not the breaking of the rules, but the rules themselves. ... I am waiting for Bill Cosby to put together a coherent thought."
#130; "Good grief! If Steny Hoyer’s nose grew with each lie he is telling, it would be poking Brit Hume in the eye."
#136; "Brit is not happy with Hoyer on this Armenian resolution. ... He has his teeth in his pants leg and is tugging away."
#148; "Oh, goody, Krauthammer just comes right out and says Jimmy Carter was a disgrace. ... Thank you, Charles."
#255; "Wolfie has the head of Blackwater on. Wolfie is reading him all of the comments about how there was no shooting at the contractors. ... Let me ask you all, does anyone think that trained professionals protecting a US diplomat just decided to go ballistic and start shooting down civilians on the street in the middle of the day? It does not pass the smell test."
#262; "Oh, here is a real treat. ... That interview by Wolfe of Carter last week was a two parter. Part II is coming up. ... How many more false and stupid things did he manage to say, I wonder."
#265; "Carter says that the anti-Iran Revolutionary Guards (resolution) will allow the Administration to say they have authority to go to war with Iran. ... Carter thinks the site that Israel struck in Syria involved missile technology, not anything nuclear (sure, Jimmah)."

5th Place maica

#5; "Caller on cspan from Connecticutt a few minutes ago ... I thought she was imitating a Rush illustration of absurdity by being absurd, but she apparently believed that what she said made sense. ... 'Good morning, guys.[to Steve Scully and James Barnes of the National Journal] You know, I am so sick of this election talk, I have the perfect ticket that will solve all of our problems. ... Al Gore - to take his rightful place ... Ron Reagan, jr - I have seen him on a lot of talk shows, and he is an intellectual charismatic. ... We can get Bush and Cheney out of the White House, get rid of the delegates, and the Electoral College. ... All we have to do is March on Washington and demand... and on and on...'"
#16; "That cspan caller was so long off her meds that she proposed a Gore/Reagan combo as being a “unity” ticket."
#37; "along with the work of Roger Altman (one of Hillary’s top economic advisors). ... ***** ... who is now a major owner of the company that publishes The National Enquirer." (Note: reply to ReleaseTheHounds' post #18)
#289; "George Will was commenting on the NYTimes headline 'Gore Vindicated' and he said that if asked the NYTimes would not see any editorial comment in that headline." (Note: reply to NormsRevenge post #219)
#330; "What will the dems say when the SCHIP limit and the Alternative Minimum Tax limit cross each other? They will say: good, just send us all your money, and we will 'take care of you.'"

4th Place kabar

#159; "A lot of myths abound. ... According to 2005 Census Bureau statistics, the male African-American population of the United States aged between 18 and 24 numbered 1,896,000. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 106,000 African-Americans in this age group were in federal or state prisons at the end of 2005. See table 10 of this report. If you add the numbers in local jail (measured in mid-2006), you arrive at a grand total of 193,000 incarcerated young Black males, or slightly over 10 percent. ... 'According to the same census data, 530,000 of these African-American males, or twenty eight percent, were enrolled in colleges or universities (including two-year-colleges) in 2005. That is five times the number of young black men in federal and state prisons and two and a half times the total number incarcerated. If you expanded the age group to include African-American males up to thirty or thirty five, the college attendees would still outnumber the prisoners.'"
#185; "More... As for violent deaths, we asked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for a list of the ten leading causes of death for black males, aged 18 to 24, in 2004. The top three causes of death in this age group were (1) homicide (2,140 deaths), unintentional injury (948 deaths), and suicide (332 deaths). Deaths from HIV AIDS ranked sixth (67 deaths.) If we add the homicide, suicide, and HIV deaths together, we get 2,539 deaths. That is a combined death rate from violent causes or AIDS of around 0.13 percent for this segment of the population. Hardly an epidemic."
#190; "It is called conditioning. If you believe that you are a victim and have no chance of succeeding, you are engaging in a self-fulfilling prophecy. The breakdown of the family and lack of education are the main maladies plaguing the black community." (Note: reply to rodguy911's post #186)

3rd Place rodguy911

#59; "... One funny thing lots of people seemed to have missed this week is that the bozo who announced that Algorr won the "novel" peace award (no spelling error there) pronounced Gore's name as Albert Algorr meaning that Rush has succeeded once again in renaming the dumbest VP ever as ALGorrrr. ... Doesn't get much better than that."
#67; "Rush continually shows that Dems who constantly go up against him and lose,over and over,time after time are the stupidest humans on earth. ... He'll be donating the money from the sale of their latest desperate attack attack on him to a college fund for kids of fallen soldiers. ... Doesn't get much better than that. ... Just to twist the knife in a little more, Rush challenged the dems to match the money. ... You can bet they will do their best to ignore him and forget their latest idiotic move against him. ... But than that's the only good thing about the Democrats. Left on their own they always succeed in self destructing."
#81; "At this point in the game we have 3 serious contenders for potus,Rudy,Fred,and Mitt. ... Fred or Mitt will best Hillary since no matter how many Pinocchio syndromes the rats create the Hitlery beast is still frozen at 46% since most voters know she is the titular head of the Crime family and not much more. ... Rudy remains the only hope the DBM/rats have for a win. Even that assumes that so many rabid conservatives will twist their knickers so bad that they actually do create a third party that gets 5-10% of the vote letting the Queen of all that is evil win. ... It's gonna get interesting from here on out."
#93; "Thanks so much for doing the Michael Murphy 'Seal story'. ... There is nothing any of us can write about that gets any more to the point or illustrates what we are fighting for better than his. ... They are truly the ultimate of Americans! ... He and his entire team of Seals are the best this country has and should be clelebrated 24/7. ... When comparisons of what the Nobel committe does and than what our brave Seals do nothing further need be said." (Note: reply to anita's post #58, this weeks Meida Nuggets, and specifically to this story on Lt. Michael Murphy)
#122; "This is indeed a huge story and nothing illustrates the rats lust for power even at the cost of treasonous behavior against the country. ... If you will notice they only use topics they are sure the dbm will hide (something Turkey did 100 years ago) for them and topics that are just complex enough for Joe 6-pak to ignore and keep on watching his latest football game. ... They are slick commies at work here and must be defeated." (Note: reply to Miss Didi's post #83)
#125; "Whenever the Dem/commies go unchallenged you can be sure they will rewrite history. ... We have to challenge them at each and every turn or lose our way of life a little bit at a time.It's called incrementalism. ... If that sounds familiar, like what is going on with the Islamicfication of the world, it should."
#135; "Many conservative Republicans have not learned what the Dems have learned long ago, in unity there is strength. Those who expect to get their way 100% of the time will be disappointed 100% of the time IMHO...."
#143; "Nation to nation, there is only one position to have in the MId-East(the only thing that is respected there),it’s called a position of strength."
#153; "... The dems have to ability to create or revisit any topic either real, unreal, true or insane with the usual compliance of the DBM. ... Truth is not necessary, only the potential for advancing their socialist mantra to conquer this and many other countries. ... Unfortunately, as long as we are willing to sit by while they advance one vacuous notion after another they will keep advancing."
#186; "I often wonder if environment is not key to one's lot in life. ... For example if you are brought up in a cradle to grave mantra and you have seen the last few generations of your relatives being taken care of by big govt. maybe that's all you know. ... On the other hand, if you are brought up in the poorest country in the Caribbean, say Haiti, and you are allowed entrance to the US, you have never know cradle to grave care taking. When Haitians succeed in virtually everything they do almost immediately,(with few if any skills) how big a consequence is environment in one's life?"

2nd Place txradioguy

#141; "I’m beginning to think and believe that the Dems insist...with the exception being on Meet The Depressed...that they are NOT to be on the set at the same time with a Republican. ... That way the Dems can run off their talking points and demagoguery unchallenged and uninterrupted. ... If a Republican is on the set when they try to run their BS...it’s challenged and causes people to think and try to figure out who is telling the truth. ... And we all know that Dems don’t want us commoners to think...only to follow blindly."
#156; "There is only one reason that this amendment was brought forward now. ... The THIRD time in my lifetime that a resolution has been brought over this same issue. ... It’s to cause dissention and strife with a U.S. ally in SW Asia. ... And it was done ON PURPOSE! ... Iraq is going well...the MSM hasn’t been able to send out a continuous barrage of negative stories from Iraq for quite some time...Afghanistan is relatively quiet...so what to do to keep America as the hated evil empire in the eyes of Muslims? ... Well lets see...we’re doing all we can to keep Turkey from coming into Northern Iraq and going after the Kurds...one of the most peaceful areas in all of Iraq...what would tip them over the edge? ... *light bulb* ... Let’s pass yet ANOTHER resolution on the Armenian massacre."
#167; "That is BOR’s typical schtick to try and intimidate people to come on his show. ... He did the same thing to F’n Kerry in 2004. ... Yet if you listened to his radio show...he was kissing Kerry’s @ss. ... Fred is smart not to fall for BOR’s act. Bill is like an internet troll...the more you ignore him...the crazier and angrie it makes him."
#177; "Yes it is revisionist history on the part of the Turks. ... But two other amendments have condemmed Turkey on this same subject before. ... Why do it now when things are tense with the Turks already? ... And why are the Dems...who seem to want to snuggle up to every other anti-Semetic twit in the Middle East the ones bringing tis resolution forward? ... As I said...it was done on purpose to muddy the wters in Iraq yet again."
#184; "Don’t forget (Bill O'Reilly's) cozy relationship with Rosie. ... He fawned over her and agreed w/ her on the gays being allowed to adopt issue. ... I was in an area that I could pick up his radio show in 2004. ... He did everything BUT endorse Kerry on the radio. ... And E.D. Hill was there chirping in her agreement with him. ... He even excused Teh-ray-za’s bad attitude and bad language."
#191; "'What are they smoking?' ... They’re toking on their normal weekend dimebag. ... The MSM WANTS McCain to be the front runner. They have all along. ... McLame v Her Thighnessis the MSM’s dream match up with Hillary beating her Republican challenger like hubby did the last 60 something former war hero Republican to challenge the Clinton Crime Family in 1996. ... Fred...or even...yes Rudy...strikes fear and images of an election night defeat for Team Clinton. ... Thank me very much!" (Note: reply to TN4Liberty post #175)
#195; "... Things like this are handled with our allies by the SecState and official visits and discussed once they go behind closed doors all the time by this country. ... Hell the Dems preach 'diplomacy diplomacy diplomacy' all the time. ... Only NOW they decide to go and grandstand with a resolution? ... What does it achieve other than to fan the flames on an already tense situation? ... What does it accomplish that a visit by Dr. Rice or VP Cheney can’t? ... Don’t get me wrong...I don’t like the boorish behavior by the supporters of the 'religon of peace' crowd in Turkey either. ... But there is a secular government in place right now and they are resisting the push by the Muslim extremeists. ... What we did with that resolution was give the extremeists more ammo and motivation."

1st Place longtermmemmory

#29; "Rush Limbaugh is auctioning off the Reid fake outrage letter on ebay ... Currently $40,200. ... at $40,200 dollars that is $980.49 per prostituted signature ... It is also worth noting: ... 47 HOURS AND THE MSM CONTINUES TO HIDE THIS STORY! ... no mention or coverage of this in any media outlet not even the MSM. ... Drudge report had to do a direct link to the ebay page and show a youtube.com video of Rush making the announcement. NO AP or Reuters story even! ... Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, both signed this phoney outrage letter to silence Rush. ... The ebay auction has 117467 views"
#72; "Rush sells the Reid, Hillary and other 39 senator letter, raising 40k+ so far, and the MSM (including FNC) don not even mention it. ... The MSM concealment of this intelectual coup agains the left is now part of the story."
#91; "They don’t get invited to the cool people cocktail parties unless they go along. They don’t get exclusive interviews with her thighness unless they kill negative stories. ... They don’t get press passes unless they select the 'right' stories."
#126; "Turkey has ammassed as many troops on northern iraqi border as there are US troops in Iraq. ... Turkey is using the genocide resolution as pretext. (the FNC talk head is using the 100 years ago talking point which shows their consulted does not get the issue to those outside the issue. It is very personal to armenians now. He is making the same incompetent state department mistake that has got us in this fix.) ... The US helping with the PKK has nothing to do with this resolution. Turkey can just say “yeah whatever” and move on. Instead they keep up this insistence on revisionist history to excuse current abuses. (attacking orthodox church, clossing down christian schools, looting churches in northern cyprus, looting antiquities in northern cyprus for black market sales) ... It will be interesting if the talking heads will get the behind the resolution issue to the armendians and those currently living under turkish guns or will they just fall for the democrat trap."
#133; "but you will note the Drive by media will push for casinos for indians because of what happened 100 years ago ... reparations for slaves because of what happened 100 years ago ... Women because they could not vote up to a point ... etc, etc... revisionist history is ok when it is attacking the USA but not ok when it is attacking a non-christian group. ... so much for 'never forget' by the left."
#146; "The United States State Department is adept at showing the strength at showing the power of weakness. ... The US reactions to this non-binding, non-position resolution continues to demonstrate this. It seems both the women AND MEN of the US state department are just drama queens. ... By making much of this and screaming like little school girls does not make the State Department competent."
#150; "McCain is so sedate on face the nation.... he should be a librarian. ... FOOTNOTE: ... Has everyone noticed the candidates are following Thompson’s blue shirt lead? ronpaul copied it on c-span, mccain is doing it today. I bet the next debate it will be all in blue with yellow ties."
#161; "... This is part of a constant effort to fight revisionist history. ... This is part of the “never again” that goes with the Holocost. ... Turkey opens themselves up to these types of situations with their constant efforts at revisionism. ... It was not even the current government, they could easily sluff it off and just say 'whatever' it was not us. ... They have real problems with the PKK and should focus on that rather than revising history."
#169; "after watching Oreily’s michael moore interview, coupled with the fact Oreily attended the NY premier of the propaganda film by moore, I pretty much concluded the two were doing a dog and pony show the whole time."
#187; "There is new stuff going in Turkey. ... The attacks on christian groups is intensifying. ... Turkey actual brought the Echumenichal Patriarch of the Orthodox Church up on CRIMINAL charges for using the word “echumenical”. It has been Echumenichal for over a millenia. ... The Turkish government also is pushing the notion that christianity is an “extinct religion”. This particularly poiniant as they loot northern cyprus. ... If nothing had changed it would be correct. ... There are multiple agendas here. Turkish Revisionism and current oppression efforts, Armenians who want make sure “never again” is more than just an empty slogan, the US state department drama queens doing what drama queens do, and pelosi fruitlessly trying to be relevant."
#203; "The state department incompetence (see Colin Powel) laid the ground work giving Turkey the ability to deny US use of Turkey as a staging area. ... The secularists have never had enough power. The treatment of american citizens during the pope’s visit with the echumenical patriarch was practically governmentally supported. ... Rice has been a real dunsel in that region. ... What really needs to happen requires spines and manhood. Something desperatly lacking in Washington DC."
#225; "aaaaah geeez, ... Senator Mel AMNESTY Martinez is on c-span. ... He is STILL pushing the amnesty proposal. ... spin points: ... out of shadows... regularize them... no choice ... This is just a pannel of AMNESTY supporters vs AMNESTY supporters. ... Now saying how TAXPAYERS should be funding ILLEGALS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS! ... These are Republicans?!!!! WHAT A JOKE!"
#231; "Gov Napolitano is asking for a 'virtual wall' (so illegals can still come) ... Ongoing comitment to enforce vs a physical wall that does not sleep. ... This is moderated by a PBS stoog. ... It is all BIG GOVERNMENT problem solving. ... There is a Priest and two republicans, and one democrat and ALL OF THEM ARE PUSHING AMNESTY. ... (some girl saying sob story about father being deported and excluded from return. NOTE: THAT IS FOR COMMITTING A FELONY. This girl’s father is a felon with that preclusion. Now pushing the 'family reunification' BS about divided families. NOTE ON NOTE: A us citizen can petition for the waiver of the exclusion! she is giving a TOTAL BS anaecdote.)"
#253; "c-span now talking about the Dream Act AMNESTY Bill ... All the panelists support the Dream Act Amnesty ... Cardinal Mahoney and makes ALL illegal minors into anchor babies. ... The Cardinal is LYING, the dream act will be AMNESTY and serial immigration. ... (legal status= CITIZENSHIP AMNESTY) It is stunning to see a cardinal so dispicipably advocate this. ... HE IS ADVOCATING PEOPLE CALL CONGRESS!! ... HEADS UP FOLKS THIS CARDINAL IS AVOCATING THIS BILL! ... Martinez is saying he supports this AMNESTY bill. ... THESE ARE ILLEGALS, this is to turn them into anchor babies for serial immigration amnesty."
#254; "C-span ... Sen Marinez just admitted he hears from the opposition to amnesty forces regarding the dream act. ... HE SAID THE DREAM ACT AMNESTY MAY BE PASSED BY THANKSGIVING! ... Heads up folks!"