Orange County Register columnist: "The Ron Paul Penomenon"

ocregister ^ | October 7, 2007 | Alan Brock

[Allegra]

Ping, it seems the Paul cult has been having a merry little party without us.

My goodness, they certainly are! It's almost like a Code Pink gathering, all peace and love and no war, etc., etc. etc. I wonder why they didn't invite The Reality Sector of FR?

I guess reality bites...

[Allegra]

I need to wake up more before I enjoy a good belly laugh...

Well, hurry up now and don your tie-dyed shirt or Star Trek uniform, stoke up the bong and let's join in.

[Kaligula]

It’s beyond me the level of venom here for Ron Paul yet FR hosts the RLC forum.

[lormand]

"Republican politiciansConservatives hate Ron Paul, because he reminds them of the way they used to sound way back when they had principles. Cindy Sheehan"

Fixed.

[mnehring]

You signed up just to say that? Apparently you didn’t note that the RLC is NOT Ron Paul, he uses them like he uses Alex Jones, for media attention.

[lormand]

"And it is usually the Ron Paul haters who throw the words “America Hating Kook” around!"

Hating Ron Paul to Conservatism is like hating Cancer to a Doctor. Both are highly constructive.

Freepers who support Ron Paul should be treated appropriately.

[mnehring]

I don’t call it hate, I call it concern that enough people will drink his Koolaide that when the primaries will come around (if he survives that long) he will pull enough votes away, (1%-2%) that it will hand the nomination over to Rudy. In a tight race, he can be a spoiler and give us no choice but another lesser of two evils vote in the primaries.

[mnehring]

..speaking of which, it looks like exactly what the Ronulans want to do, split up the Conservative (neoCon in their words) vote..

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=25628

[lormand]

ewww, I have to hold my nose everytime I click on one of those “ronpaulforum” links.

[Eastbound]

"Paul was one of them, voting against putting the military on the border . . ."

Is the U.S. Coast Guard federal? Sure it is. So what's the difference if the fed guards our water borders or land borders? None that I can see. To be consistent, he would have to vote against funding the Coast Guard as well. And the Air Force.

But absent federal protection, why aren't the governors doing the job? In that the official organized state militias, (National Guard) have been federalized, who is left to guard our borders? I thought we established government (state and federal) to protect the country, among other reasons, for I'd rather be spending my time pursuing life, liberty and enjoying happiness without having to worry about being invaded. Leave the gun toting to the pros.

On that point, I think I'm more Ron Paul than Ron Paul.

But Alas. Absent any gummint protection, it seems like We the People will have to get involved and put our personal pursuits on the back burner for a while, at least a good portion of us. The times demand it.

(Of course, we have already done that, thanks to the Militiamen volunteers.)

[Eastbound]

Correction: Militiamen volunteers should be minutemen volunteers.

[ejonesie22]

I AM THERE DUDETTE...

Just got to clock out after I make this latte...

[WWTD]

Nice list of what Fred says. I'm more interested in what he does:

Took a crap on free speech and the first amendment by supporting McCain-Feingold. At the time, most true conservatives (including on this site), were furious.

Voted against impeachment for President Clinton over his perjury. The parsing of his vote during impeachment (yes on obstruction, no on perjury) didn't impress this lawyer.

Leased a red pickup in the 90s while running for the Senate, fooling the people of Tennessee into viewing him as a good ole boy and not a high paid Washington lawyer/lobbyist who prefers travelling in limosines.

Also, my momma always told me (see, I can imitate a homeboy as well - just need some cowboy boots and a pickup truck) that you judge people by the company they keep. Fred Thompson is a member of the globalist socialist utopian "Council on Foreign Relations", where he gets to hang out with fellow globalists like George Soros and the Rockefellers.

[WWTD]

vain?

[TexasKamaAina]

Doesn't he think that extra-ordinary warfare must be fought using extra-ordinary methods...

He's suggested using the constitution's authorization of marque & reprisal. I don't know if that's adequate, but it is extra-ordinary.

[Eastbound]

Whatever works. But when a nation sponsors terrorism, how do you retaliate? Bounty hunters won't cut it. The risk here is that were talking about thousands of people getting killed all at once. (Nukes, etc.) I don't agree that we should take a first hit. Pre-empt and kill them where they sleep once we are certain of their plans. We already know they have the will and have no conscience. 9/11 was lesson enough.

Paul doesn't realize that as long as the world is in termoil worrying about the muzzy threat, we have to get busy and end the threat before we can afford to relax again and get back to pursuing happiness. We have to mobilize as a nation. And no doubt we will have to send our military might abroad.

I can't understand Paul's policy to stay home and un-involved at this time. Maybe in better days isolationism to some degree has a place. But we are at war and the whole world is the battlefield.

Through trial and error, we are succeeding. But I don't know of any other way to succeed against this muzzy kind of insanity except by trial and error.

That's just the way it is, imo. I'm absolutely certain that staying home and hiding in the closet will be fatal. It's time to get in the proper mind set for the task ahead.

[matthew fuller]

"Ron Paul doesn't have his own forum; Ron Paul is not the Liberty Caucus,"

Did you really go and look at it? I just counted posts, and out the last 50, fully 41 are Ron Paul. Goes back to Nov 06, and most of the 10 earliest are not RP. I think RLC must mean Libertarian. Which would sort of explain it. Thanks. MF

[mnehring]

That is because of how they are tagged. This isn’t official for him. If you look at the Liberty Caucus’ official site, Paul is a member, but the Caucus doesn’t exist for him. By turning on America, Paul has turned on what the Caucus stands for.

http://www.rlc.org/

[ROTB]

>I like your tagline.

Thank you. Let’s avoid the mistake of nominating and electing another “front runner”, since they have a miserable track record of...

1) running up the national debt
2) leaving the border open
3) abandoning the unborn