That is why he endorsed the flaming leftist Democrat Mario Cuomo over Republican George Pataki in the NY gubernatorial election?
A Past Assoc. Giuliani Would Rather People Forgot (Rudy Giuliani Joins Forces With George Soros) ^
Posted on 10/17/2007 8:30:17 AM PDT by Roberts
The next President will replace four, and if he serves two terms six or seven, USSC justices.
Hillary + Leahy and Schumer will produce a Court the likes of which has never existed in our history - and that Court, until overthrown, will rule this land for forty years.
Are you part of the Norman Siegel - Al Sharpton - James Dobson coalition?
That is why he endorsed the flaming leftist Democrat Mario Cuomo over Republican George Pataki in the NY gubernatorial election?
A Past Assoc. Giuliani Would Rather People Forgot (Rudy Giuliani Joins Forces With George Soros) ^
Giuliani and Scummier look pretty affectionate in this photograph...
Is Ted Olson advising Hillary?
Seriously, there's no point in discussing this. My view is that you think black=white here, and I think you are wrong.
The voters are going to decide the Republican nominee in a few months. If it's Rudy, you'll have six or seven months to consider your options.
"Bullwinkle" would be that candidate...
“Never mind that on all critical issues defining conservatism and libertarianism(sp?) he is completely wrong.”
Gettin’ a bit heated there aren’t you? Actually Rudy and Paul are closest to libertarianism the way I read them.
And I did say I was leaning (not yet committed) towards Rudy. Yeah, I do like his energy and enthusiasm as opposed to the other talking lampposts. I also feel he has the qualifications and as the mayor during 9/11 - he will never forget - like so many sadly have.
And if we elect a conservative Congress - they will help keep Rudy in check.
The smart ‘Al Sharptons of the right’ will figure out pretty quickly its better to be on the inside with WH access than shut out in the cold.
The biggest nightmare is not if they refuse to back someone like Giuliani and he loses, but if he wins. If Hillary wins, they will use her as a lightning rod to make money, just as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson demagogue Bush and others to make a living. Look at the rise of LW kook sites like DU and Daily Kos in reaction to Bush. It will invigorate the far right. However, it would be a huge mistake to assume that would translate to any legislative conservative progress.
If people like Dobson back a third party candidate and Giuliani still wins, then he owes the fringe right absolutely nothing, and their cause is even more marginalized. Just look at the actual success of third parties the last few years, the bright spot has been the Green Party. And I don't see any Ross Perot’s out there other than the potential Mike Bloomberg run which wont happen if Giuliani gets the nomination. Personally I dont buy the third party threat is as big as they claim it to be)
The country is currently a center right nation, and is looking for a center right candidate.
“Allow me to convey my thanks from Hillary.”
I kinda thought you were working for her. Say hi to her from all of us “brain-dead” Freepers at your next meeting.
You’re getting a little mouthy for someone who is supporting a homo-loving gun-grabber to be your leader. Makes me and others wonder if you’re at the right website. I thought FReepers were about conviction and sacrifice? I can see that you do not have these qualities. You’ll grow up someday and see what we’re talking about, we hope.
Don’t just settle for someone like Julie-Annie. Don’t dumb down our country any more than it already has been. Make a stand and keep it. Honestly, like I said before, He’s no different than Hillary!
Check out my comment #12 on this thread for the answer to your question
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1912862/posts
His report card from the Club for Growth is a mixed bag, some good some bad, but the idea that there is no difference between Rudy and Hillary on any issue is false and you know it.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/05/rudy_giulianis_economic_record.php
Washington - Today, the Club for Growth released its presidential white paper on Republican presidential candidate New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. The fourth in a series of white papers on presidential candidates, the report (reprinted below and as a PDF file) provides an extensive summary of Rudy Giuliani’s economic policies during his eight years as the mayor of America’s largest city.
“Mayor Giuliani’s economic record is not perfect, but he deserves credit for the remarkable nature of his accomplishments,” Club for Growth President Pat Toomey said. “In a city long accustomed to high taxes and ballooning budgets, Rudy Giuliani successfully cut taxes; kept spending below the growth of inflation and population; instituted sweeping welfare reform; privatized and deregulated many aspects of the city’s bulky bureaucracy; and fought aggressively for school choice.”
The white paper emphasizes the liberal context in which Giuliani was forced to govern. Although the Mayor took a number of anti-growth positions-such as his opposition to NAFTA, his support for McCain Feingold, and his opposition to several tax cuts-he used free-market, limited-government values to turn around a faltering economy in a political environment dominated by a left-wing City Council; public sector labor unions; social welfare activists; and an unfriendly media.
“Rudy Giuliani will still need to flesh out his positions on a number of federal issues, and we hope he will reconsider his few anti-growth positions,” Mr. Toomey said. “But it is impossible to ignore Giuliani’s overall commitment to a pro-growth philosophy and his executive talent for implementing that philosophy in a hostile political environment.”
Rudy Giuliani Enacted Pro-Growth Policies Despite Liberal New York Environment
Taxes
The Club for Growth is committed to lower taxes-especially lower tax rates- across the board. Lower taxes on work, savings, and investments lead to greater levels of these activities, thus encouraging greater economic growth.
There is much to be impressed with in Rudy Giuliani’s tax record. Elected in 1993, on the heels of the largest annual tax increase in the city’s history[1], Giuliani inherited a city crippled by high taxes, ballooning deficits, and stalled job growth. Despite these obstacles and an entrenched liberal City Council, Mayor Giuliani wasted no time in calling for $1 billion in tax cuts over the next four years[2], with $35 million in tax cuts for the 1995 fiscal year alone[3]. While he met with significant resistance, the persistent Mayor managed to push through a number of tax cuts over his eight-year tenure. These include:
$17 million in tax cuts for co-op and condo owners and an $84 million cut in the commercial rent tax for the fiscal year 1996[4]
$319 million in various tax cuts for the fiscal year 1998[5]
$300 million in tax cuts for the fiscal year 2000, including an extension in the tax cut for co-op and condo owners and the repeal of the sales tax on clothing and shoes costing under $110[6]
$190 million in tax cuts for the fiscal year 2001, including a reduction in the personal income tax surcharge[7]
$498 million in tax cuts for the fiscal year 2002, including a further reduction in the personal income tax surcharge[8]. The 2002 budget also eliminated a local tax on clothing purchases; a $2 fee on hotel rooms; and tax on rent for more than 3,000 businesses in Manhattan[9]
Overall, Giuliani’s record displays an intuitive appreciation for the vital role tax cuts play in growing the economy, as well as a deep-seated aversion to tax increases. Giuliani is also on record supporting $792 billion in tax cuts passed by the Republican-controlled Congress in 1999[10], as well as President Bush’s 2003 tax cuts[11]. After 9/11, Rudy even went so far as to criticize Fernando Ferrer’s vow to raise taxes if he were elected mayor as “a dumb, stupid, idiotic, and moronic thing to do.”[12] At the same time, Giuliani’s impressive record is not without a number of glaring flaws, including:
Giuliani’s opposition to Republican candidate George Pataki’s proposed cut in the state income tax in 1994[13]
Giuliani’s opposition to the City Council’s proposal to eliminate the commercial rent tax in 1999, in favor of spending the tax revenue on building baseball stadiums[14]
Giuliani’s $600 million extension of the 12.5% personal income tax surcharge for the fiscal years 1997 and 1998[15] and his opposition to the City Council’s push to eliminate the surcharge in 1998[16]
Giuliani’s opposition to the flat tax as advocated by presidential candidate Steve Forbes in 1996[17]. Though he currently supports tax simplification, Giuliani has refused to endorse the flat tax as recently as March of 2007[18]
It’s ok though, because as your kind face oblivion you can cheer yourselves up by repeating over and over to yourselves that even though you are going to die you died a principled death.
If thick headed was asphalt you'd be Route 80.
I haven't said this before, but I will say it now. Anyone who can't see the remarkable similarities between Hillary, an authoritarian liberal, and Rooty, another authoritarian liberal, must have blinders on his or her eyes that would block out the sun at noontime.
If you think "whining like a two year old" tactics during the general election will "teach" Republicans anything you are mistaken. It is the registered Republicans that select the candidates, not the party
I and my extended family have been involved in political affairs at the local and state level probably much longer than you have been alive, and I realize that the Republican primary voters have the final say in who the nominee will be. But I also realize that the party's so-called "leadership" plays a role in the background of the process that the rank and file will never see or know about. That role is not as significant as it once was thank God, but it still counts for something in the final analysis. And although I won't stoop to your juvenile level of name calling, if you don't think losing a succession of national level elections because of alienating a large segment of the GOP vote, such as the social conservative bloc that comprises roughly 20% of the GOP base, won't get the attention of both the party hacks and the ordinary GOP voters you have a lot to learn about people and politics.
Get this through your head. Second, if you and your fellow idiots stay out of the election, expect to be marginalized and ridiculed. If you use this tactic, this is one conservative Republican that will have nothing to do with you, as will the majority of Republicans.
No, I don't think I'll try try to get anything you have to say through my old grey head, believe me I have better ways to waste my time. And if the election is lost and those of us who chose to take a principled stand on our choice of candidates are "marginalized and ridiculed" by the same voters who chose to lose the election by nominating a candidate whose record of far left liberalism and unconstitutional authoritarianism while in public office makes him unqualified to sit in the highest office in the land, then we will wear your insults and accusations as badges of honor for having stood firm against the folly of indulging in political expediency veiled by the pseudonym of party loyalty.
I don't owe the Republican party anything, but I do owe my conscience, my God, and my nation's future welfare my determination to oppose and withhold my vote from candidates of any party who do not meet the high moral, ethical, and constitutionally correct political standards that should be the baseline qualification for anyone who aspires to a high office in our nation. If we compromise with the liberal wing of the party by accepting a candidate who is diametrically opposed to our position on practically every issue of governance and propriety, what have we gained by voting for the supposedly lesser of two evils who would attempt to implement most of the same liberal policies that the other side's candidate would try to implement if elected? If there is no major difference in the ideological persuasion of the two nominees nothing, other than the momentary pleasure of defeating the detestable Democrat party machine, has been gained but much has been lost by our compromise. As long as the liberal wing of the party, by that I mean the liberal "country club" wing that once totally dominated the party apparatus and still represents a large segment of the party, knows that we social conservatives will obediently pull the lever for the candidate with the R after his/her name even though we are unalterably opposed to most of that candidate's positions on vitally important issues, they will continue to seek to nominate candidates who believe as they do and will act as they would if they were in office. Somehow we have to convince those people that they can't win without our votes, and that we won't compromise for the sake of loyalty to a party that takes us for granted as though we had no choice but to vote for a candidate who doesn't represent our POV, but in fact opposes it.
Sorry to waste so much of your valuable time with my ignorant foolishness. But even ignorant fools do occasionally have a cogent thought flutter through the vacuum between their rusty grey cells that just begs to be expressed, and you just happened to be the one in line for this particular ignorant fool's expression on this particular day.
You must have missed it or weren't looking for it...
“A Mensch who wears stockings and a bra occasionally? “
I don’t think one has to do with the other. Rudy has enough confidence that he wasn’t too worried that someone would think it wasn’t “manly.” The pictures I saw of him wearing that outfit were pretty funny. You seem humor challenged.
“The real Belisarius would have found your naive credulity to be quite laughable.”
I find your improbable claims to insight into what a poorly documented historical character would have thought to be laughable.
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