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After delays, 'virtual fence' nearly ready for acceptance testing
ap on San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 10/17/07 | Arthur H. Rotstein - ap

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:52:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

TUCSON, Ariz. – Defense contractor Boeing Co. has told the government it believes it has solved most of the problems that have delayed use of the first section of a high-tech “virtual fence” along the nation's borders for months.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials, however, said they'll wait until acceptance testing now set for late October is done before passing judgment. The 28-mile section of fence along the U.S.-Mexico border in southern Arizona is the first of thousands of miles planned on the nation's southern and northern borders.

Boeing personnel who briefed federal officials “sounded real optimistic” about the fixes, said Brad Benson, a Customs and Border Protection spokesman in Washington. “I have talked to Border Patrol personnel, and they weren't quite that optimistic.”

Operation of the nine 98-foot towers north of the Arizona-Mexico border near the port of entry at Sasabe has been delayed for at least four months because of computer software glitches.

Loaded with sensors, radar and sophisticated cameras, the towers are designed to detect illegal immigrants and drug smugglers coming through the heavily trafficked area southwest of Tucson.

The $20 million virtual fence pilot project remains on hold because software designed to integrate the results of sensor hits, radar readings and camera sightings wasn't working correctly. A glitch in the programming has kept it from providing a common operating picture for agents, who plan to use it to spot and capture illegal entrants and smugglers.

Because of that, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a Congressional committee last month that he would withhold further payment to Boeing, the prime contractor, and declined to accept the system until he was satisfied.

He called acceptance testing “a little bit like buying a car. We didn't want to get stuck with a lemon,” he testified.

That testing is now set for the last week in October, Benson said.

The virtual fence is being tested first in Arizona, the focal point for illegal crossings into the United States from Mexico. But plans call for installing 1,800 such towers along both the Mexican and Canadian borders.

Benson said Border Patrol agents have employed some of the towers' equipment to assist in apprehensions of illegal immigrants. But that doesn't mean all systems are functioning in an integrated manner or that agents are seeing one common picture as intended, he said.

“There's some usefulness there, but it's still not there,” Benson said.

Even if the system passes, other tests may follow, and other faults may crop up during operation.

“Our guys have said the true test of whether we're accepting it is whether the Border Patrol is using it,” Benson said. “It's not ready for prime time. We still have a little way to go.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: acceptance; aliens; borderpatrol; delays; illegals; immigrantlist; smugglers; testing; virtualfence
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1 posted on 10/17/2007 6:52:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

April 15th is coming. I hope they like my virtual tax payment.


2 posted on 10/17/2007 6:55:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: NormsRevenge

In other news, Mexico reports runs on wire cutters and chewing gum.


3 posted on 10/17/2007 6:57:03 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: NormsRevenge
I bet if the defense contractor had been Browning, the expected results might be different?
4 posted on 10/17/2007 7:01:56 PM PDT by 359Henrie (38 million illegals create a big carbon footprint. The real inconvenient truth.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m just curious how much testing a wall takes.


5 posted on 10/17/2007 7:11:28 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: NormsRevenge
“There's some usefulness there, but it's still not there,” Benson said.

That about sums it up!

6 posted on 10/17/2007 7:22:20 PM PDT by OCC
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To: DoughtyOne

You are so funny. I love your posts.


7 posted on 10/17/2007 7:22:55 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


8 posted on 10/17/2007 7:23:39 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: freekitty

There’s no humor here. I take this serious. I’m doing some testing and hope to be ready with my virtual payment by April 15th. If not, I’m sure four to six months delay won’t be a problem.

;-)

You take care.


9 posted on 10/17/2007 7:26:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: NormsRevenge

it will stop virtual trespassers


10 posted on 10/17/2007 7:28:11 PM PDT by repentant_pundit (Strong leaders are overrated. We need strong followers...of the Constitution)
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To: DoughtyOne

A sense of humor keeps you sane.


11 posted on 10/17/2007 7:32:50 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe the terrorists and Mexicans will do us a favor and send computer-generated “avatars” across the border, so that the “virtual fence” can stop them. On the other hand, they’ll probably just fall in with a hundred other people and “rush” straight through the invisible protective barrier.


12 posted on 10/17/2007 7:33:56 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: NormsRevenge

Why not test it out first, to make sure it works.

Around the White House!


13 posted on 10/17/2007 7:38:47 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: NormsRevenge
To construct 30 miles of fence is harder for a US company that helped put a man on the moon than for China to build a thousand mile wall out of stone *2,000 years ago*...?!

Whassup with this VIRTUAL crap? I like the medieval stuff way better....

They just don't make fences like they used to..I don't get it....

And why do we have all these UAV's ABROAD, but not HERE? I mean it's oringinally a RECON platform. And it's reliable, cheap, persistent, sensitive, discrete...PERFECT for our southern border.

There should be SWARMS of them buzzing around down there. I mean now ONE operator can fly like 3 of them AT THE SAME TIME, thereby covering thousands of square miles...truly amazing. And at night, the jobs gets EASIER --the things have super sensitive FLIRS that turn night into day, and with a SNIPR pod that thing can be up at 20,000 feet, and the picture will be like it's right down on the ground with Jose and the nuke-toting Ahmed with the prayer rug...

Logistically border enforcement is easier than ever at precisely the time that between 5,000 and 10,000 invaders cross or border EVERY NIGHT.

14 posted on 10/17/2007 7:42:56 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: NormsRevenge

The problem with a virtual fence is that all it does is let you know how many are coming across. You still have to have the will to stop them. Even if we have the will for a little while, does anyone actually believe that HRC will have the border patrol do anything other than wave at the illegals as our sensors sense them.


15 posted on 10/17/2007 7:46:56 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker; NormsRevenge; gubamyster
"The problem with a virtual fence is that all it does is let you know how many are coming across. You still have to have the will to stop them. Even if we have the will for a little while, does anyone actually believe that HRC will have the border patrol do anything other than wave at the illegals as our sensors sense them."

Exactly....now they will at least have an accurate count of all those they aren't catching....for all that is worth.

16 posted on 10/17/2007 7:52:05 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: DoughtyOne
April 15th is coming. I hope they like my virtual tax payment.

It would seem that sufficient precedent has been set:

"Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a Congressional committee last month that he would withhold further payment to Boeing, the prime contractor, and declined to accept the system until he was satisfied."

17 posted on 10/17/2007 7:53:52 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: FastCoyote; NormsRevenge
Virtual Walls take longer in testing cause you are never quite sure exactly where they are....
18 posted on 10/17/2007 8:21:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Virtual fences (alone) are for virtual idiots.

Note that there is a very real fence around the Whitehouse.


19 posted on 10/17/2007 8:34:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: freekitty

I’m not sure it’s helped me that way, but you’re free to be the judge.

;-)


20 posted on 10/17/2007 8:40:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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