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Hillary is a Criminal: Here’s Proof
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 18 Oct. 2007 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 10/17/2007 7:26:37 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

Criminal means either a person convicted of a crime or who has committed a crime, regardless of any conviction. Hillary Clinton has not been convicted of any crime. She never will be, regardless of what she does. It would be career-suicide for any prosecutor to bring charges against her.

That said, Hillary meets the second definition of criminal.

There is a video tape of Hillary Clinton, made 17 July, 2000, as she called the offices of Peter Paul while Stan Lee (creator of Spiderman) and others were there. The call was about the Hollywood Gala created by Hillary's White House Assistant, Kelly Craighead, for which Bill Clinton's associate, Jim Levin, solicited Paul’s support. The Gala took place 12 August. At first glance, the video merely shows Hillary thanking those who raised money. But it is much more than that.

This video was seized by Federal Marshals in Spring, 2001 and held by the US Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York until 11 April, 2007, when it was finally released to Mr. Paul.

Here are two links on the Internet for the tape of that call: http://www.hillcap.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcbg72tK_ks

This tape shows three different FEC crimes. First: the Gala was reported as an “independent” event. If “coordinated” with the candidate, all contributions over $2,000 were illegal. A performance by Cher, or any of dozens of other artists who appeared “without fee” at the Gala were each worth more than $2,000.

Ms. Clinton cannot claim she was unaware of these arrangements, since on the tape she discusses her call to “close the deal with Cher” after Paul’s talent coordinator made the initial arrangements.

The second crime concerns her alleged “lack of knowledge” of the false reporting of the expenses for this Gala, in the criminal trial in Los Angeles of David Rosen, Finance Director of her Senate Campaign, for false reporting. His attorneys, along with the prosecutor, told the trial judge that “Hillary Clinton had no knowledge of the finances for this Gala.”

It is malpractice for any attorney to represent to any judge what a witness might say, without first talking with that witness. Hillary either lied to the lawyers so they would lie to the judge, or she told the truth to them, and they lied to the judge. Either way, the lies worked. The judge responded that “Hillary Clinton is not in the loop in any direct way, and the jury will be so advised.”

It was not until years after Rosen’s trial was over, that this video tape was obtained from the US Attorney’s office in New York. There is also the wrinkle that this case was tried before a judge appointed by Bill Clinton. Why the prosecutor did not ask the judge to recuse himself, is beyond me

The third crime concerns the Federal Election Commission, The Complaint that NY Senate 2000, her first campaign organization, had falsified the records concerning the Gala, was filed 16 July, 2001. Finally, on October 16, 2005, the FEC found that the Gala had falsely represented the financials by $721,000.

This was a “settlement” with the Campaign, requiring it to file a new report about the missing money, and pay a fine of just $35,000, a low fine for the largest falsehood in FEC history. Again, Clinton lawyers represented that Hillary “had no knowledge of the errors.”

Under FEC law, the candidates are personally responsible for all documents and records filed with the FEC. It doesn’t matter if they are filed by lawyers, treasurers, or anyone else. The phone call shows that Ms. Clinton was aware of details of the funding of the Gala. So, the lies presented to the FEC were her fault One final detail about the FEC: The amended report which she filed, was itself dishonest about the source of the missing money.

There is now a 13-minute video which pulls all this information together: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019&pr=goog-sl

The final version of this, “Hillary Uncensored,” runs 60 minutes, and will be available both through the Internet and on DVD, after a preview at Dartmouth College on 27 October.

Lastly, even as you read this, Hillary is conducting another possible illegality. When I worked for John Anderson, independent candidate for President in 1980, the FEC instructed that Campaign to return donations to certain contributors. We asked whether we could encourage donors to “re-donate” those funds back to the Campaign in an acceptable way.

The FEC said no, because that would violate FEC laws and regulations. If the laws and regulations are the same now as they were then, Hillary’s presidential campaign is violating the law right now. According to press accounts, the letters returning tainted money from the Norman Hsu affair ask the recipients to re-donate the money to the Campaign.

Ms. Clinton will hear about this column, and will ask her legal minions about filing suit. Various publishers have been carrying my weekly opinion columns for up to twelve years. In accord with Supreme Court decisions, the carriers of opinion pieces generally cannot be sued by someone who takes umbrage at such opinions.

As for me, I welcome Ms. Clinton suing for libel. Please, pretty please with a cherry on top, sue me. I would happily to come to court with attorneys armed with Supreme Court law and baskets of evidence on whether you can be properly described as a criminal.

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About the Author: John Armor practiced in the US Supreme Court for 33 years. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu He lives in the 11th District of North Carolina.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crime; fraud; hillaryclinton; peterpaul
Many of you have been following these matters much closer than the American media have. It's time to lay all the cards on the table, and see what happens.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 10/17/2007 7:26:41 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

doesn’t mean diddley,

unless you can get it in

front of the tv-morons.


2 posted on 10/17/2007 7:28:36 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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Bump for later


3 posted on 10/17/2007 7:30:19 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Nice summary. Thanks and a BTTT.


4 posted on 10/17/2007 7:34:40 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: Congressman Billybob
It would be career-suicide for any prosecutor to bring charges against her.
5 posted on 10/17/2007 7:37:30 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: ken21
doesn’t mean diddley,

unless you can get it in

front of the tv-morons.

TV morons do not care. Things will only change when the middle-class becomes unruly. That's when the oligarchy begins to sweat, stroke their necks, and take notice.

6 posted on 10/17/2007 7:44:54 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Way to nail it, John. I don’t think Hillary is going to be very happy when she is ordered to appear for a deposition.


7 posted on 10/17/2007 7:48:30 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Congressman Billybob

The Princess of Pelf a criminal?


8 posted on 10/17/2007 7:50:35 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Fine job!!

bttt


9 posted on 10/17/2007 7:55:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
It would be career-suicide for any prosecutor to bring charges against her.

It'd be more than career suicide to attack the Clintons. They leave a trail of dead bodies where ever they associate.

Just ask Vince Foster.

Oh, wait a minute, you can't....

10 posted on 10/17/2007 7:55:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I would imagine, somehow, citizens have recourse where the FEC openly fails to enforce campaign law....


11 posted on 10/17/2007 7:58:57 PM PDT by mo
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To: Congressman Billybob

Interesting thing is, Clinton does not even have the support of many of the liberals.

My daughter,who goes to a large, liberal university, says Hillary does not have the college vote there.

My son says that when he asked them who they’d vote for, even the most ardent liberals in his high school say they wouldn’t vote for her.

In both cases, the other students say they don’t think the country is ready for a woman president and these are two groups that are considered to be the most liberal.


12 posted on 10/17/2007 8:01:16 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

tip of the hat for your brains and flat out goodness


13 posted on 10/17/2007 8:07:47 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I will pray for success for you, Congressman.


14 posted on 10/17/2007 8:10:01 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: doug from upland

Oh that something could get to this criminal enterprise. But alas, the criminals placed their people in the crucial positions of power when they had the power to do so. The Rodham rodent wouldn’t dare take John to court because she would be exposed with media coverage on the event!


15 posted on 10/17/2007 8:15:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

BTTT


16 posted on 10/17/2007 8:17:01 PM PDT by cibco (defconw = Mrs. cibco {:0))
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you for your words and thanks to you and the internet because the average citizen can be much better informed than most of our so-called journalists.


17 posted on 10/17/2007 8:40:02 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: Congressman Billybob
Hillary Clinton has not been convicted of any crime. She never will be, regardless of what she does. It would be career-suicide for any prosecutor to bring charges against her.

It would also mean Arkancide!

18 posted on 10/17/2007 8:41:51 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: mo

I would imagine, somehow, citizens have recourse where the FEC openly fails to enforce campaign law....
***Perhaps under the RICO statutes.


19 posted on 10/17/2007 8:43:31 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq— via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: Congressman Billybob

bump.


20 posted on 10/17/2007 8:43:49 PM PDT by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: Congressman Billybob

BTTT


21 posted on 10/17/2007 8:44:40 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

m BTTT


22 posted on 10/17/2007 8:52:25 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Congressman Billybob; doug from upland

Ping!


23 posted on 10/17/2007 9:28:17 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Unicorn
Great work!

BTTT!

24 posted on 10/17/2007 9:30:42 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Congressman Billybob

It’s a pleasure to just know of you, sir.


25 posted on 10/17/2007 9:37:17 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Well done!


26 posted on 10/17/2007 9:40:35 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Mr Apple

ping


27 posted on 10/17/2007 9:49:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Right on Billybob!!!


28 posted on 10/17/2007 9:54:28 PM PDT by sdcraigo (Go Sox!!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"A performance by Cher, or any of dozens of other artists who appeared “without fee” at the Gala were each worth more than $2,000. "

Huh? Provide some more detail on that aspect. I'm under the impression that the performers charged a fee. Even if they chose to to it for free, how is that a financial contribution to the campaign?

29 posted on 10/17/2007 9:54:49 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: ken21

Well said. They are watching her public relations tour, with the media cooing and sighing.


30 posted on 10/17/2007 9:56:31 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way. No Mitt . No way. No McCain. No way.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Keep your doors and windows locked Billy.


31 posted on 10/17/2007 10:00:09 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Calpernia; The Spirit Of Allegiance; justiceseeker93; backhoe; Froufrou

Thanls Calpernia.

Pinging.


32 posted on 10/17/2007 10:44:49 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: TheBattman
It would be career-suicide for any prosecutor to bring charges against her.

Yea, suicide Klintoon style.

33 posted on 10/17/2007 10:51:09 PM PDT by Frwy (Politician is the only four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I wonder if your ‘various publishers’ will print this one, though. Most of the MSM and even county/city/small town papers seem to be reticent to post anything negative about either one of the Clintons. Don’t know if it’s money, power or fear, but no one wants to do it.

Please keep us informed, FRiend.


34 posted on 10/17/2007 10:58:10 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks, Congressman! Good job! ....................... FRegards


35 posted on 10/17/2007 11:19:48 PM PDT by gonzo (My Mother never understood the irony of calling me a 'son-of-a-bitch' ...)
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To: metmom
“the most ardent liberals in his high school say they wouldn’t vote for her.”

It does not matter because there are numerous dead who will vote for her.

36 posted on 10/18/2007 1:15:27 AM PDT by JSteff (Reality= realizing you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

bttt


37 posted on 10/18/2007 1:22:38 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Mrs. Clinton reminds every happily re-married guy of his first wife." ~ Rush paraphrased.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

bttt


38 posted on 10/18/2007 1:30:58 AM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: endthematrix
Contributions can be “in kind.” Only lawyers and CPAs are exempt. Wonder why?

John / Billybob

39 posted on 10/18/2007 4:52:47 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

“If Sen. Hillary Clinton is to chart her own course independent of her husband, why did she choose Sandy Berger to give her advice on foreign policy? This suggests reunion time for cronies. In 2003, Mr. Berger took several highly classified documents about the Clinton-era Millennium terror plot from the National Archives while ‘aiding’ the September 11 commission. Mr. Berger successfully negotiated a plea bargain and received only two years probation, along with a security-clearance suspension and a $50,000 fine. Were he anything less than a member of the permanent Clinton establishment, he would be in sitting in a prison cell, with few prospects. But no sooner was his probation time over-it ended last month-than Mrs. Clinton put him back in the game, presumably with a new pair of pants big enough to accommodate purloined documents. This issue is a larger subset of the looming ‘first laddy’ question. In a Hillary Clinton administration, first husband Bill Clinton would inevitably loom large. The Berger news suggests that his old friends and cronies would, too... This could of course be merely a symbolic appointment, with no future for [Berger] at the National Security Council or anywhere else in government. The episode reeks nonetheless... Mrs. Clinton is of course free to fill her foreign-policy ranks with such people, and she is free to open herself to charges of cronyism. She is free to dismiss the fact that Sandy Berger violated the government’s most stringent security rules. But she can’t escape responsibility for it. If the Clintons spend whatever capital they have to help old friends find work, they tell us loud and clear what we’re dealing with.”-The Washington Times


40 posted on 10/18/2007 5:25:11 AM PDT by fweingart (Tom Tancredo Will Get The Job Done! (How is Mumia Abu-Jamal these days?))
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To: Congressman Billybob

Wow! If only we had an honest media.


41 posted on 10/18/2007 5:26:25 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Congressman Billybob

I pray for your safety, and God bless you for doing what is right. God help us if this woman is allowed to be called out President.


42 posted on 10/18/2007 5:49:42 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: ken21
doesn’t mean diddley, unless you can get it in front of the tv-morons.

What good would informing "tv-morons" going to do? Are they suddenly going to morph into reasonable well informed conservative activists if they see this?

Most Americans have no interest in following these sorts of things. This does not make them "tv-morons", it just makes them average. Taking a negative attitude towards them is never helpful.

Such folks are convinced by action, not by the justification of the action. They will presume guilt if and when a person is found guilty. They will presume innocence until then. They will not bother to pay attention long enough to determine guilt. Now you and I might not relate, but that's the nature of most Americans. Lets accept it instead of getting mad about it, because we can't change it by doing so. Rather it will take a long patient time.

43 posted on 10/18/2007 6:16:50 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear

our form of government depends upon informed citizens.

tv-morons are not informed.

a soviet immigrant once said in astonishment to me:

“your tv is controlled.”


44 posted on 10/18/2007 6:26:13 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

And yet the media is “worried” about her “laugh”...

THAT is “big news” and MSM “investigative reporting” at its finest.


45 posted on 10/22/2007 12:00:25 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

bttt


46 posted on 10/22/2007 12:28:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: endthematrix

If a performer does not charge a fee for what would otherwise be a paid performance, that is considered a donation.


47 posted on 10/24/2007 9:39:08 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Congressman Billybob

bttt


48 posted on 10/24/2007 1:03:27 PM PDT by Balata
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To: Bold strike

bttt


49 posted on 10/30/2007 6:22:55 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: doug from upland

“Way to nail it, John. I don’t think Hillary is going to be very happy when she is ordered to appear for a deposition.”

But who is going to order Hillary to appear for a deposition? Is there a judge who is NOT a Clinton appointee who is involved in Paul’s case? Unless there is, I doubt anything will be done about Hillary’s crimes. I keep hoping she & Bill will be brought to justice though.


50 posted on 10/30/2007 6:35:50 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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