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Georgia water shortage
Foxnews.com ^ | 10/17/07 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/18/2007 3:55:58 AM PDT by msrngtp2002

Georgia Officials Threaten to Sue Corp of Engineers Over Draining Reservoirs

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atlanta; georgia; water; waterwars
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To: Publius Valerius
internalize costs...not a popular subject... on this website.

Like the people who believe you can be in a labor union and not be a socialist.

Like Larry Craig can do what he does and not be gay.

42 posted on 10/18/2007 6:06:06 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: arbooz
The state is occupied alright - not by miserable illegals or busybody Yankees, but rather by contemptible leftist mafia - incompetent and thieving, majority of them black.

Well said! And, that is exactly why I left the Atlanta metro area 19 years ago and why I haven't looked back once. I have fond memories of Atlanta when it was a medium sized city. In those days you could actually afford to go to a Braves or Falcons game and traffic was managable. What Atlanta and the surrounding areas have morphed into now is disgusting in the eyes of this native. Personally, I don't care to ever visit Atlanta again and I do my best to avoid it entirely.

43 posted on 10/18/2007 6:12:09 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: doodad
It was June of 2006. It wasn't millions. It was 22 billion gallons of water - enough for 118 days:

Corps of Engineers "Loses" 22 Billion Gallons of Water

The Governor was already complaining about Corps policy before the spill. I guess they showed him:

Governor Perdue Testifies Before the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works

"In the midst of all of this, the Corps admitted to releasing more than 22 billion gallons of water from Lake Lanier by mistake – at a time when the region was approaching what is traditionally the driest time of the year. By this mistake, they essentially created a “man made” drought on top of a natural drought."

The Corps has of course refused to compensate for their mistake by reducing the releases from Lanier.

One has to wonder at the political orientation of the Corps. The area most affected by draining Lanier is heavily Republican. Making voters miserable is a good way to unseat incumbents. Has the allegedly Republican administration even considered asking the Corps to pretty please put some of the spilled water back (by reducing the releases)?
44 posted on 10/18/2007 6:14:43 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: Thermalseeker
Sorry you find the truth so upsetting, but my comments are based on facts and history

So your unsupported opinion has now been raised to the level of truth.

I do find it interesting, though, how you try to make it about me, rather

I do find it interesting that you try to make it about the citizens who live there rather than the officials who caused the problem, not to mention that the COE is releasing water from the dam at foru times the rate it's flowing in. This is the fault of the citizens? Not likely.

Um, by attending planning commission meetings, local and county commission meetings and becoming vocal about issues before

What utter horse manure. By your own admission the fix is in in most of these things. A citizen getting "vocally involved" is just wasting their time unless they're pushing the preferred socialist agenda, and then they serve the role of "useful idiot"

Yes, you did elect them, or rather, your apathy did.

No I didn't elect them. I guess you're not able to do the math, but I'll say it again 99.9% of government bureaucrats are NOT elected.

because the corrupt Atlanta government refused to fix the problem until it became a crisis.

Atlanta government is voted in on a racial basis. The sole function of the Atlanta government is to dispers taxpayer loot to blacks and other friends of the black democrat crooks who run the city, so tell me how Anyone living the the suburbs can affect that. (Yeah, get "vocally involved" - my ass)

Solution: cut the runoff downstream to that which would be coming in after. Don't use the reservoir to keep an artificially high flow rate.

45 posted on 10/18/2007 6:18:41 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

The Corps should have cut back on relases to compensate for the spill (of 22 billion gallons). They should also have cut back in response to the drought. Last month, they released 35 times as much water from Lanier as flowed into the lake. We have gone well beyond the enviro wacko ideal of “no dams”. The flow would have been 1/35th as much without the dam (the mussels would all be dead).


46 posted on 10/18/2007 6:19:19 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: CDHart

A lot. About half of all water used (71 billion gallons out of 140 billion gallons per day) is used for irrigation. Only about 13.1 billion gallons per day is used for public and rural water supply. The rest is industry and power production.

Source: http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/387_u_s_water_withdrawals_and_consumptive.html


47 posted on 10/18/2007 6:21:12 AM PDT by Air Force Brat
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To: arbooz
The state is occupied alright - not by miserable illegals or busybody Yankees, but rather by contemptible leftist mafia - incompetent and thieving, majority of them black.

Yep one of the several occupying bodies that the rest of us would be better off without, althoug busybody yankees and illegal aliens are also in abundant supply.

48 posted on 10/18/2007 6:22:15 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: msrngtp2002

Excellent idea! If the various municipalities paid for the amount used and charged consumers enough to make a profit, other water sources would have already been tapped and there would be no problem.


49 posted on 10/18/2007 6:23:09 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: Thermalseeker
So, no, I don't have any sympathy for Atlanta whatsoever. Deal with it.

Atlanta has nukes.

Give us yer f&*$in' water or we'll kill yer a&&.

50 posted on 10/18/2007 6:25:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Why isnít this in Breaking News????)
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To: randita

Must be the way God wants it...


51 posted on 10/18/2007 6:26:23 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: from occupied ga

Talk about ignorant and obnoxious statements...


52 posted on 10/18/2007 6:28:10 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Brilliant

Get rid of the liberals! Ship them all to Berkeley.


53 posted on 10/18/2007 6:28:28 AM PDT by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: doodad

“How about remove their control of said facilty? “

That would be a great exercise of State’s rights. I’d love to see State SWAT Teams storm the control facilities and set up a perimeter.


54 posted on 10/18/2007 6:29:18 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: bobjam
Georgia doesn’t deserve the blame for the current crisis. The Corps dumped an extra 22 billion gallons by “accident” in 2006. If they had compensated for it by reducing the releases to amounts more appropriate to a drought situation, we would have another 3 or 4 months of supply by now. Instead they are protecting the mussels.
55 posted on 10/18/2007 6:31:45 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: Brilliant

Send the yankees home!


56 posted on 10/18/2007 6:32:00 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Maybe the Gov. could contract with Blackwater USA to secure the dam... ;-)


57 posted on 10/18/2007 6:34:53 AM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: from occupied ga
You might discover in a court of law, the only water you “own” is in your body.

Water unlike gasoline, is a necessity for life. Some folks are out there just getting by and do not consider themselves poor. As a society and community we have an ethical and spiritual obligation to defend and protect those who are less fortunate.

On the other hand, our fair city has many fortunate homeowners who have “won life’s lottery HA!) and they have automatic sprinklers that pee this precious resource daily on their fescue. My neighbor gayly auto-sprinkles his pine straw as well as the street. Triple the price and he would never know it. This is his third house and we never see him. CUT OFF HIS WATER!

That will give people a taste of what is coming to our fair city of ATLANTA; RATIONING.

The Atlanta City Council needs to get somebody at Water Works to turn it off for ONE HOUR NOW. Let everybody, rich & poor appreciate where we are going.

If we triple the cost of water now, it will not impact anybody until DECEMBER and by then, we will stink from no showers. You will be remote officing from Chattanooga and I will camp at my better neighbors house for his well water.

The CITY of Atlanta needs to take some amphetamines and go to work.

58 posted on 10/18/2007 6:40:48 AM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: Air Force Brat
About half of all water used (71 billion gallons out of 140 billion gallons per day) is used for irrigation

Correct, stop watering lawns and wetlands, problem solved.

59 posted on 10/18/2007 6:44:44 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: from occupied ga
So your unsupported opinion has now been raised to the level of truth.

There you go trying to make it about me again. Do some research into the history of the area and get back to me.

I do find it interesting that you try to make it about the citizens who live there rather than the officials who caused the problem, not to mention that the COE is releasing water from the dam at foru times the rate it's flowing in. This is the fault of the citizens? Not likely.

Yes, it is the fault of the citizens, or rather their apathy. The citizens of the region agreed to the current deal with the Corps of Engineers BEFORE Lake Lanier was built. Get it? If you don't understand this you need to do some research. The citizens allowed the gubmint officials, both appointed and elected, to let this water issue rise to crisis levels.

What utter horse manure. By your own admission the fix is in in most of these things. A citizen getting "vocally involved" is just wasting their time unless they're pushing the preferred socialist agenda, and then they serve the role of "useful idiot"

Where did I admit that? How do you know you'd be wasting your time? How many county commission meetings have you attended? Tell the truth, now, how many? I attend almost every county commission meeting in my hometown now just to keep an eye on them. It's only a couple of hours out of my month. Do you not do the same?

No I didn't elect them. I guess you're not able to do the math, but I'll say it again 99.9% of government bureaucrats are NOT elected.

And who appoints them?

Atlanta government is voted in on a racial basis. The sole function of the Atlanta government is to dispers taxpayer loot to blacks and other friends of the black democrat crooks who run the city, so tell me how Anyone living the the suburbs can affect that. (Yeah, get "vocally involved" - my ass)

I am acutely aware of the corruption in the Atlanta city government, as well as MARTA, the Atlanta Regional Planning Commission, the Gwinnett County Commission and others. I ran several businesses in Atlanta and my family ran an auto parts business with the main store on North Avenue in Atlanta. This family business began in 1949 and was sold in 1993. So yeah, I am very familiar with the situation in Atlanta. Obviously more familiar than you are.

Solution: cut the runoff downstream to that which would be coming in after. Don't use the reservoir to keep an artificially high flow rate.

The reservoirs are being used for exactly what they were intended to be used for when they were built, that being electricity generation and flood control. Lake Lanier was never, ever intended to be the main source of water for Atlanta and the surrounding 'burbs. Did you ever stop to think that there are other municipalities that also use the Chattahoochee for drinking water? Are you more important than they are? If you restrict downstream flow, what are the folks in Columbus and Lagrange going to do for drinking water? What about the oyster beds in Apalachicola? Drinking water was a secondary use for Lake Lanier, as was recreation. Read the original agreement with the Corps of Engineers and educate yourself. You are woefully uninformed.

60 posted on 10/18/2007 6:45:44 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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