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City Hikes Boy Scouts' Rent by $199,999 over Gay Ban (Philadelphia)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 10/18/2007 | Joseph A. Slobodzian

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:41:25 AM PDT by Pyro7480

The Boy Scouts of America's refusal to bend its rules to permit gay scouts will cost the organization's local chapter $200,000 a year if it wishes to keep its headquarters in a city-owned building on Logan Square.

Representatives of the Boy Scouts of America's Cradle of Liberty Council were notified that to remain in their 79-year-old landmark headquarters, they needed to pay the city a "fair market" rent, Fairmount Park Commission president Robert N.C. Nix said yesterday. Currently, the rent is $1 a year....

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ban; boyscouts; bsa; childmolesters; discrimination; gaystapotactics; homofascism; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; jerks; lawsuit; moralabsolutes; philadelphia; politicalcorrectness; scouting; scouts; stalinism
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To: sickoflibs
"I only give money to the Boy Scouts."

Thanks for the reminder, I'll be sending them an early Christmas present this year! Thank God for organizations like the Boy Scouts. They helped to keep me out of a lot of trouble (not all, but a lot!) when I was growing up and gave me a sense of self that I could survive in any situation. Organizations like the Boy Scouts are what the inner cities need to give the young people a moral compass and direction.

221 posted on 10/18/2007 11:04:13 AM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: Nathan Zachary

Rent control boards only control residential rents. It would not apply here.


222 posted on 10/18/2007 11:04:32 AM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: trumandogz
I have only read the article that has been posted.

Finally? After 200+ posts on this thread?

What did you think of the article?

223 posted on 10/18/2007 11:04:47 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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To: Pyro7480
If the boy scouts would allow queers to recruit the boy scouts into their abnormal deathstyle, they could keep paying $1 a year!
Fey, sick Ba$tards!
224 posted on 10/18/2007 11:07:13 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: freekitty
Fair and balanced ain’t the answer.

SO who will be the person determining what organizations deserve such a deal?

Most of the big cities in the US are very liberal and thus can give free rent to Planned Parenthood or some Gay Rights group.

Where does it stop?

225 posted on 10/18/2007 11:07:58 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz
"One dollar a year is Free Rent."

No it isn't. It's a rental contract. In fact all cities use that contract to avoid just that argument you are trying to make.

226 posted on 10/18/2007 11:08:08 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Pyro7480

This can be read different ways:

Boy Scouts are penalized $199,000 per year for not permitting gay scouts.

Boy Scouts would be rewarded $199,000 per year for permitting gay scouts.

Boy Scouts are bribed $199,000 per year to permit gay scouts.


227 posted on 10/18/2007 11:10:49 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: trumandogz
But the city doesn’t own the building. They own the ground. This is a key difference on the East Coast, especially in a city like Baltimore. The city is raising the price of ground rent.
228 posted on 10/18/2007 11:12:13 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: Tenacious 1

“Yes, but should any organization only have to pay $1/year for rent?”

The key phrase is “Yes, but should”. The subjective “that’s not fair” arguement of whining liberal. Signed contracts are an issue of objective fact, and not unilaterally alterable on the whims of the signatories.

RTO


229 posted on 10/18/2007 11:12:16 AM PDT by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: trumandogz

I think it stops with the voters.


230 posted on 10/18/2007 11:12:38 AM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: trumandogz

Right.

That’s because the city and the community aren’t really getting any value out of the Boy Scouts.

Absolutely. We should raise the rent on these deadbeats as soon as possible. That’s about 2,500 Boy Scouts per year that would have been ‘scholarshipped’ into a Troop, but the city DEFINITELY needs that money more.

Lord knows, in Philly, there is no need for a program like this otherwise screwing up perfectly good boys from broken homes.

Throw’em out on the street.


231 posted on 10/18/2007 11:13:24 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: trumandogz

“Most of the big cities in the US are very liberal and thus can give free rent to Planned Parenthood or some Gay Rights group.”

Been there, done that. Austin TX spends $1 million on abortion funding. And in liberal school districts, gay groups in high schools get funded. The idea that somehow funding BSA would make this nonsense more likely is only your hallucinations.


232 posted on 10/18/2007 11:14:28 AM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: chaosagent

They’ll probably open a mosque there as soon as the scouts are out.


233 posted on 10/18/2007 11:14:28 AM PDT by mathurine
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To: Nathan Zachary

The scouts and the city are legal entities in perpetuity but times have changed; since 1928 it is hardly likely that more than a few 100 men are alive now that were involved in the original contract but the contract must exist somewhere.

Being no mention of the length of the signed lease in this or any other reports available to us right now this might well be settled by a local court.

It might be necessary to cough up the $200,000 and petition a judge or court to hold the money in escrow while the thing gets settled in a court of law instead of now being argued in the court of public opinion which seems to be rather fickle of late.


234 posted on 10/18/2007 11:15:11 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Petronski
I think it stops with the voters.

All but one of the Philly City Council members voted to raise the Scouts rent.

Sounds like the voters have spoken, or at least will get to speak at the next election.

I do not think any of the members that voted to raise the rent will be voted out of office.

235 posted on 10/18/2007 11:15:28 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz
"Please explain to me why a private organization should only pay $1.00 a year rent for a piece of land?

It's been explained to you about 50 times already, but it seems you just can't read.

236 posted on 10/18/2007 11:15:30 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: scotiamor
Actually, the lease would be for the land. The scouts built the building and presumably still own it.

No. Basic real estate law: When you improve leased land, the improvement becomes the property of the owner. If you lease an acre from me, you're a fool if you build a house on it, because it becomes my house.

They used to teach this in the required freshman Business Law 101 in college. What happened that so many don't know this? This goes back to English Common Law, and it's one of the many carry overs to American law.

237 posted on 10/18/2007 11:16:29 AM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: trumandogz
Sounds like the voters have spoken . . .

Well, the Council has, anyway.

238 posted on 10/18/2007 11:16:44 AM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I understand that the Boy Scouts do Good Work. But that good work should not entitle them to pay $1.00 rent.


239 posted on 10/18/2007 11:17:18 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

Why did Michael Dell get free land in Nashville that it now seems obvious his company has no plans to use it?


240 posted on 10/18/2007 11:18:05 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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