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Cold Spring Harbor Suspends Chancellor James Watson
Cold Spring Harbor ^ | October 18, 2007 | Cold Spring Harbor Board of Trustees

Posted on 10/19/2007 1:20:11 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee

Statement by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Board of Trustees and President Bruce Stillman, Ph.D. Regarding Dr. Watson’s Comments in The Sunday Times on October 14, 2007

Earlier this evening, the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Board of Trustees decided to suspend the administrative responsibilities of Chancellor James D. Watson, Ph.D., pending further deliberation by the Board.

This action follows the Board’s public statement yesterday disagreeing with the comments attributed to Dr. Watson in the October 14, 2007 edition of The Sunday Times U.K.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; coldspringharbor; coldsprings; dna; genetics; helixmakemineadouble; intelligence; iq; jameswatson; race; racerelations; races; racial; racism; racist; racists; watson
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I’m sure if Watson said that all Muslims should be deported he would be fired as well (especially in the UK). Would you be in favor of that too?


21 posted on 10/19/2007 5:33:05 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

You don’t have freedom of speech if your speech is going to cost you your job and career. This is the soft totalitarianism that conservatives live under in the West and you support it?


22 posted on 10/19/2007 5:36:46 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

This was the obvious and expected next course.


23 posted on 10/19/2007 5:37:29 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Free Dominoes

Freedom of speech is NOT freedom from consequences.


24 posted on 10/19/2007 5:41:32 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: NonValueAdded

So you’re if favor of academics getting canned by leftists if they don’t toe the PC line?

Were you in favor of Rush getting canned from his NFL gig over his statements on black quarterbacks?


25 posted on 10/19/2007 5:45:24 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Free Dominoes
I’m sure if Watson said that all Muslims should be deported he would be fired as well (especially in the UK). Would you be in favor of that too?

In favor of what? Deporting all Muslims or firing Watson for saying that? Yes to the first and no to the second. lol

26 posted on 10/19/2007 5:50:37 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

Getting fired for his comments whether you agree with the comments or not.


27 posted on 10/19/2007 5:53:52 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
From Timesonline.co.uk:

Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said today: “It is sad to see a scientist of such achievement making such baseless, unscientific and extremely offensive comments.

Within a weeks timespan, Algore won the Nobel Peace Prize for propogandizing millions about something totally unscientific.... and Watson is fired for saying something non-PC but only mildly offensive. How many years did it take for Ward Churchill to get fired?

He's been in the left's sights for years over his opposition to abortion.
28 posted on 10/19/2007 5:57:31 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I feel that this knee-jerk reaction chills free and open inquiry and debate on controversial issues of the day. AND: What if he IS right? What are the implications of denying such a reality?


29 posted on 10/19/2007 5:59:50 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: NonValueAdded

Larry Summers was fired as president of Harvard because he gave a speech to some women scientists. During the speech he discussed why there are so few women in the fields of math and physics. He listed several possible reasons, including the usual “women are oppressed by sexism” argument. He also mentioned the possibility that men are on average genetically better at spatial reasoning than women.

After the speech, a radical feminist biologist threw a tantrum. She rambled on and on about how she nearly fainted upon hearing his shocking remarks, how she felt physically ill, etcetera.

In no time the leftist faculty and student body was screaming for his head. The media joined in, denouncing Summers for his “insensitive” remarks. Even though there is substantial scientific evidence that men do indeed have a genetic predisposition to perform at higher levels on average in fields requiring spatial reasoning, Summers was forced to grovel and apologize, and of course was ordered by his critics to approve another affirmative action program for women in science.

Then, they fired him.

A couple of weeks ago, he was scheduled to speak at a school in the University of California system. Even though he wasn’t going to address any “controversial” topic, his speech was cancelled after feminist professors threw a hissy fit.

If what Watson said is scientifically indefensible, then let’s see the evidence to the contrary and have a debate. Don’t hold your breath waiting for it, though. An open debate on IQ is the last thing the egalitarians want. All they need to do is beat their chests in self-righteous outrage, gang up on the offending individual and demand an apology, and then fire him.


30 posted on 10/19/2007 6:00:26 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Free Dominoes
Nobody in this country should be fired for political comments made on the job. No matter what the political persuasion might be. UNLESS those comments promote treason: Like advocating overthrowing the US Government and installing Sharia law.That should be a firing offense and a criminal offense.
31 posted on 10/19/2007 6:03:39 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
I guess the Dummies were right--it really is not a great idea "to speak truth to power".

:-)

Watson probably did this just to yank their chains and expose them for the anti-scientific bigoted goons that they are. There are arguments to be made against his proposition--but in this age of the modern Inquisition noone cares enough to bother to make them when intimidation is more effective.
32 posted on 10/19/2007 6:04:39 AM PDT by cgbg ("I give you health care and I say 'no smoking'". "Yass'm Miss Hillary.")
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To: puroresu

Thank you.


33 posted on 10/19/2007 6:05:13 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: ExSoldier

See post 30.


34 posted on 10/19/2007 6:07:47 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Free Dominoes; All
Watson has the constitutional right to state that Africans are less intelligent than Europeans.
But he shouldn't be surprised if there is a push for him to be fired from his job for doing so.
He should expect it.

The Dixie Chicks had the constitutional right to state to a crowd of foreigners that they were embarrassed that George W. Bush was a Texan.
But they shouldn't have been surprised that people would boycott their concerts and destroy CDs of their music.
They should have expected it.

Personally have the constitutional right to express a slew of anti-racist views.
And expect to get a lot of flak for it.

At least in California, you have the right of way to cross the street against traffic as vehicles are whizzing by so long as you use the crosswalk.
But you shouldn't be surprised if you get run over if you try it.

Actions have consequences, even when those actions are legal.

35 posted on 10/19/2007 6:10:26 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Well what if some lefty decided to fire you because of your support for George Bush? Would you be in favor of that too?


36 posted on 10/19/2007 6:14:34 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: cgbg
Throughout history when there have been two main points of view on a subject and one point of view has been banned or made illegal....

What have we learned about which point of view is correct--the dominant one at the time or the "offensive" one that so terrified everyone that they need to ban it.

We have learned _nothing_ from history.

:-(


37 posted on 10/19/2007 6:16:08 AM PDT by cgbg ("I give you health care and I say 'no smoking'". "Yass'm Miss Hillary.")
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
I have been noticing landscape crews lately. They have these little machines. The machines have little bulldozer track and a little fork lift up front. You stand on it and operate and move things around on dirt or grass.

Another machine I like are the Bobcats. They are called ‘powered wheelbarrows’.

I have also noticed utility repair guys now using really small backhoes to dig up a pipe.

Anyways, what I am getting at is even at the local, small company level people are using machines, not their backs.

I worked in a golf ball factory. The trend, year after year, was significantly less workers, higher production and higher costs. Basically the less a person touched anything, the better.

So, we are moving into an age where back strength is decreasing. An age that is only now beginning, just, baby steps to understand what cheap computers will do. It is an brain powered age. You can see the wealth this produces in places like lower Manhattan, Boston, Silicon Valley.

So, blacks are in a bad space. A race/culture that isn’t very much into book learning. Further they go to either urban or rural schools that are bad. So, they either don’t learn, learn to hate learning, find out they were lied to and haven’t been learned.

Lastly, the way we learn is a frozen, industrial model that best fit the 1800’s. It hasn’t changed. So we are very stuck with this mental and union monster called public education. I am kind of thinking that some sort of new model will emerge from the home schooling movement, conservative Christians, the Internet and a few honest collages. I have read that MIT is putting its entire curriculum on line for anyone. I have also heard of a university that is going to YouTube all its lectures. It is a matter of time when, with out gooberment planning, by natural unseen hands, this will come together providing the best universities, with the best lectures at near nigh zero cost. Thus expensive, liberal, leftist thieving mind fu*king schooling will go the way of major newspapers.

38 posted on 10/19/2007 6:21:20 AM PDT by Leisler (Liberal (adj.) [lib-er-uh / lib-ruhl] 1. a narcissistic sufferer of grand delusions)
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To: Leisler
"....significantly less workers, higher production and higher costs

Should of been, " less workers, higher production and higher quality at lower costs",

39 posted on 10/19/2007 6:23:13 AM PDT by Leisler (Liberal (adj.) [lib-er-uh / lib-ruhl] 1. a narcissistic sufferer of grand delusions)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I have read a good deal of Arthur R. Jensen’s work, and it is fairly persuasive. I suspect, Dr. Watson has done the same. There is a very small, but very persistent group of scientists who are doing research in areas that are controversial to say the least, and their conclusions are challenging the foundations of modern, democratic egalitarianism.

Provided they are not run out on a rail (or worse), I suspect their research will eventually have to be discussed, and it may directly confront the opinions most people hold dear about race and intelligence. By the way, James Q. Wilson wrote an equally controversial essay on the same subject in Commentary a year ago. Fasten your seatbelts, folks, it’s going to get bumpy.


40 posted on 10/19/2007 6:25:16 AM PDT by giobruno
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