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To: NormsRevenge; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Joe Brower
There was a very large group of vocal Martinez supporters here on FR. They loudly proclaimed he was the "true conservative" in the race and triumped his great "pro-life" credentials and the fact he would "deliver" Florida to Bush by bring out massive Hispanic crossover votes (in fact, Mel ended up running far BEHIND Bush in the 2004 general election and barely got elected over a C-list opponent). Many freepers hailed the need to elect Mel so we would have an "hispanic" Senator, as if the GOP should reward people on the basis of affirmative action, rather than qualifications. (I'm all for electing a "hispanic" Senate who DESERVES a Senate seat based on their past "record", but Mel, like Harriet Miers, was anything but.)

Like the legions of freepers who hailed Condi Rice for President and Arnold for Governor here, the pro-Martinez crowd has suddenly disappeared. Any vocal Martinez supporters who trashed McCollum & Johnnie Byrd have now revised history to pretend like Martinz was the only Republican to step up the plate and run, so they "had to" vote for him "because the only alternative was Betty Castro". In reality, most of the GOP candidates would have won in Republican leaning Florida against a no-name opponent like Castro. They deliberately stabbed more conservative candidates in the back and pimped Martinez as a solid conservative choice in the primary -- not held their noses for him to simply "stop" Castro in the general.

Like the Arnoldbots, they simply can't come to terms with the fact that they WERE warned Martinez was a sleazy trial lawyer Bushbot who was lying about his positions to get elected, and they ignored the facts.

Martinez is now the Senate instead of a principled conservative because of useful idiots in the conservative "base" believing candidates who say anything to get elected.

50 posted on 10/20/2007 8:09:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors win. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
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To: BillyBoy

I voted for Martinez in 04 because he was the GOP guy running against an awful Democrat.


51 posted on 10/20/2007 8:10:30 PM PDT by darkangel82 (All right! Let's go Tribe!!)
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To: BillyBoy
"There was a very large group of vocal Martinez supporters here on FR."

Yup, and I was one of them. You see, Billy, we took the man at his word. He DID vote quite Conservatively -- until he jumped the shark on shamnesty, and destroyed his reputation entirely. But I'm not sure what the point of your post is other than to fire some gratuitous after-the-fact shots.

"Like the legions of freepers who hailed Condi Rice for President and Arnold for Governor here, the pro-Martinez crowd has suddenly disappeared."

I supported Condi until a lackluster handling of the job in the Middle East, I NEVER back Ah-nold and got suspended from FR for exposing his record (of which I was proven 100% right) and unapologetically supporting McClintock, and I no longer support Martinez. So there you go.

66 posted on 10/20/2007 9:00:52 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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