The ARE allies.
No indication? You and millions of others need to wake up![Tony Blair IS awake.]
WTF????
Posted on 10/23/2007 12:31:05 AM PDT by Schnucki
Far from sabre-rattling, Tony Blair's speech about the threat of a nuclear-capable Iran was simply telling it like it is.
In his first major speech since leaving Downing Street, Tony Blair this week likened Iran to the emerging threat of fascism in the 1920s and 1930s. The ideology of Islamist extremism "now has a state - Iran - that is prepared to back and finance terror in the pursuit of destabilising countries whose people wish to live in peace".
David Cox identifies in this speech an encouragement of "war fervour". Mr Blair's analysis of international relations is, in truth, acute and understated. It is entirely consistent with his message while in office. In 2001, three days after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre, Mr Blair warned the House of Commons that terrorists "would, if they could, go further and use chemical or biological or even nuclear weapons of mass destruction. We know, also, that there are groups or people, occasionally states, who trade the technology and capability for such weapons."
Six years later, Iran's activities confirm Blair's diagnosis. At a minimum, Iran's Revolutionary Guards are equipping Shi'ite terrorists in Iraq with improvised explosive devices to attack Iraqi and US troops (who are, let it be recalled, discharging a UN mandate). Support for terrorism ought also to be considered alongside Iran's nuclear ambitions and serial deceptions. Last month, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed El Baradei, told the organisation's conference: "Contrary to the decisions of the security council, calling on Iran to take certain confidence building measures, Iran has not suspended its enrichment related activities, and is continuing with its construction of the heavy water reactor at Arak."
Adopting a tone that Cox will doubtless find bellicose and threatening, El Baradei concluded: "This is regrettable."
(Excerpt) Read more at commentisfree.guardian.co.uk ...
Tony's ideas are not just his, but are the result of millions of hours of history research by the best minds available post WWII.
One of these is Professor Emeritus, Gillbert Allardyce, with whom I completed an honors seminar in European History, "The Rise of European Fascism," at the University of New Brunswick in 1972.He published a text book on the subject which defines the analysis for future generations. Tony Blair makes good and accurate use of it. Winston Churchill believed in it, and left us many warnings to beware of fascism in the future.
Islamofascism, or the more politically correct term, Religio-fascism, is a world threat. Tony is right. Yet the mavins of the U.S. Democratic party would have the world believe, just as then Democrat Ambassador to Britain Joseph Kennedy and Democrat aviator Charles Lindberg did in 1936, that fascism is a healthy populist movement, worthy of respect and reconcilliation.
Thus came appeasement from Neville Chamberlain,upon whose shoulders the deaths of 2 million Jew squarely rests, whose aspirations to a League of Nations Utopia almost put Britain into conquered statehood, but for a handful of heros in the Battle of Britain. One would think that the British would never forget, but they have, all but a few like Tony Blair.
George Bush and Tony Blair were correct and are correct.Iran should be fought hammer and tongs, and their Mullahs stuffed back down the well of the 12th Immam, and sealed over with buckets of porcine grease, topped with ferro concrete.
The cause is righteous! It could not be more so, but the West has forgotten, and it will take buckets of human blood the sway the liberal socialist Utopians away from wool gathering dreams of another latterly, " Peace In Our Times."
There will be no peace, until the Islamofascists are put to bed in a sleep from which they should never wake. And the world may awaken to the horrors brought by liberal socialism too late, with too little to defend itself from a nuclear devastation of both the middle east and most of Europe.
Tony speaks for Churchill, Lord Beaverbrook, and the heros of the Battle of Britain. May G_d grant him an audience of people who heed his words of warning.
Very well said. Thank you for this article, an excellent read. And thank goodness for leaders like Tony Blair.
one sour note on the followup..the writer assumes that we will have a President Hillary Clinton. That would be disastrous on all counts. I have no faith in that woman to conduct an effective foreign policy.
Well there is one bright side.
Iran is no Germany or even Italy economically.
War is expensive and requires vast industrial capabilities.
Iran is third world with no signs of changing that status anytime soon. And actually appears to be going more 14th century than 21st...
Now on the dark side - nukes are the equalizer - and they know that...
“now has a state - Iran - that is prepared to back and finance terror in the pursuit of destabilising countries whose people wish to live in peace”.
Well said, Mr. Blair!
There is no bright side. We must fight them, and fight them early.
War is expensive and requires vast industrial capabilities.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Axis will be Russia, China, N Korea, Pakistan, Iran,Syria, Myanmar,and likely Turkey.They have made it clear they have a policy of shared nuclear technology with Iran, and with each other. They unite against the West.
Iran is no Germany or even Italy economically.>>>>>>>>>
In history, the parallels are not matches on all four corners. BTW Germany did not have the industrial capacity to sustain war. Its why Germany lost, it had very superior technology to the West in missile technology and jey aviation,and initial nuclear research, but not enough industrial capacity or oil. Iran has oil, and a strategic location to control the free worlds oil flow , if victorious. This attracts her allies to form an axis.
War is expensive and requires vast industrial capabilities.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Iran has been preparing for war for over five years. Two years ago, Iran pulled all of its gold out of European banks, and brought it home.And the "vast" industrial capabilities are in Pakistan, China and Russia.But this is largely moot , once Iran explodes a nuclear device in the straights of Hormuz. All she would have to do is set up a picket of ships , each with a nuclear device aboard, manned by suicide teams to set off their bombs.Just like that, there would be no oil flowing to the West.Europe has lost the will to engage Iran militarily, and the US and her allies are over extended. As a matter of fact, the USA does not have the heavy industrial capacity to wage war as she did in WW II. No steel, oil, or shipping on the WWII scale. Only air power and nuclear missiles and bombs and an aging submarine fleet with nuclear misiles. The US can only fight a nuclear war, not a conventional war over the long term. The fascist axis has the advantage in conventional war and attrition.
Iran is third world with no signs of changing that status anytime soon. And actually appears to be going more 14th century than 21st...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A 14th Century hand can press a button and throw a switch as well as a 21st Century hand, and it would be suicide for them to do so, and Iran welcomes the opportunity.
Now on the dark side - nukes are the equalizer - and they know that...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
They are more than an equalizer. Nuclear blackmail would essentially prevent oil flowing to all of the industrial , western alliance democracies, destroying those economies. This will be done by ship in the straights of Hormuz.
And the democrats will likely be in power, which means the USA will have an isolationist policy as it attempts to go to alternative energy, away from an oil based economy. With the democrats in power, Iran will run roughshod over the entire MIddle East, and then war will be inevitable, on both a conventional and eventually a nuclear scale.
The West is running out of time, and has an ideological deficit, due to the work of the democrat Party here at home and abroad.
God bless Mr. Blair for having the courage no other world leader seems to have.
There’s no indication either Russia or China want to be involved with an actual fight as an ally of Iran.
They simply use Iran to keep us in check as long as it works.
No, it's like Nazi Germany with major oil wealth, a jones for nukes, and a billion sympathizers including two American presidents calling its religion good and peaceful.
Interesting article for the leftist Guardian.
Well laid out points. I have the gift of prophecy. I have received many, many small prophecies effecting me or my immediate family. Most of it was to show me that the Father and Christ exist as I was a doubting Thomas. Of course it took Christ Himself to speak to me on two different occasions to write down information about the future to finally believe Him. Here is the point. I was only given three major prophecies. One is about the Persian Gulf and our carriers. One or many nuclear devices were set off. I was in the dream and my flesh began bubbling on my legs from the radiation. The second is that Benjamin Natenyahu will be PM again and it will occur during the same time of the Bush Presidency. Bibi will be PM during a 3 year peace deal with the Arabs. The last prophecy was a comet that hits the earth. First, truck sized meteors or pieces of the comet hit earth. Each one has the destructive power of a battlefield nuke. Smaller then Hiroshima or Nagasaki but devastating nonetheless. Then the comet hits. People will think it is an extinction level event and will throw parties thinking it is all over for mankind so why not go out with a bang? However, it is not an ELE. About every other house was destroyed meaning a lot of destruction but man survives.
Thats what an alliance does. They are an axis alliance. Allies.
No, they are their useful idiots.
If Russia or China wanted military aid in their “alliance” they’d hardly look to Iran. Iran is just tool they use against us as long as it last.
North Korea is no different. North Korea has no value to either the Russians or the Chinese other than tying up large amounts of our resources. For that they keep it propped up.
The ARE allies.
No indication? You and millions of others need to wake up![Tony Blair IS awake.]
WTF????
I’ll put it in plain english.
If we bomb the hell out of Iran neither Russia or China is going to send in their armies to defend Iran.
Is that clear enough?
Your right. However, what is disturbing is that both Russia and China has proliferated missle and nuke technology to the nut cases of the earth. These will use them someday on the USA directly or our allies. Russia and China wins in that scenerio in elimiating our power and further accelerating theirs. It’s about global hedgemony and the Russian’s and Chinese feel the ends justify the means. Very scary and it’s telling of their true intentions.
Not that I disagree with much of your analysis, but how does the picket of nuke-armed ships work?
Wouldn’t something like cruise missles make the ships worthless?
I’ll put it in plain english. If we bomb the hell out of Iran neither Russia or China is going to send in their armies to defend Iran. Is that clear enough?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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The facts say you are wrong, DB:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1916735/posts:
Asia Times ^ | Oct 26, 2007 | Pepe Escobar
Posted on 10/26/2007 9:39:00 AM EDT by dennisw
The barely reported highlight of Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Tehran for the Caspian Sea summit last week was a key face-to-face meeting with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
A high-level diplomatic source in Tehran tells Asia Times Online that essentially Putin and the Supreme Leader have agreed on a plan to nullify the George W Bush administration's relentless drive towards launching a preemptive attack, perhaps a tactical nuclear strike, against Iran. An American attack on Iran will be viewed by Moscow as an attack on Russia......................
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There is an Islamofascist Axis, and its time that the US puiblic, including you, wakes up to that fact. A trip down da Nile is actually becoming quite dangerous.It fuels more liberal wool gathering , just like happened in 1935-1939 in Europe, when Winston Churchill was decried as a drunk who did not know what he was talking about.Turned out that Churchill was correct, and so are those today who see history in parallel on the issue of the formation of an Islamofascist Axis.
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