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1 posted on 10/25/2007 7:39:16 PM PDT by blam
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I saw that coming the day the story broke. In that biz, there is no second chances. Screw up once and you’re history.


2 posted on 10/25/2007 7:40:36 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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Dead link


4 posted on 10/25/2007 7:45:04 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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Gee,one wonders why the Guardian,of all news sources,chose to feature this story.Can anyone help me out here?


5 posted on 10/25/2007 7:48:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-7025634,00.html
8 posted on 10/25/2007 7:53:57 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Steely-eyed Killers Ping.

Apparently they were radioing the nuke logs. Not career-enhancing at all.


11 posted on 10/25/2007 7:59:20 PM PDT by SmithL (I don't do Barf Alerts, you're old enough to read and decide for yourself)
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The was a pretty easy call by the Navy on a very serious matter. Even though HAMPTON is a high-profile command, the same would have happened to any CO on any boat.


15 posted on 10/25/2007 8:10:54 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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Hey Mike- I think it’s www.monster.com.


19 posted on 10/25/2007 8:28:55 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Crop-circles and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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The Hampton, a Los Angeles Class submarine assigned to Submarine Squadron Eleven, is the most advanced nuclear attack submarine in the world

No disrespect for the Hampton and its crew but my guess is that the crews of the Seawolf and Virginia-class boats would have a slight disagreement with that statement.
20 posted on 10/25/2007 8:33:13 PM PDT by tanknetter
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The navy sure has had a run of poor officers the last couple of years, what is this about the fifth that has been relived of his command.


21 posted on 10/25/2007 8:38:03 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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``He has not been charged with any offense nor has he received non-judicial punishment,'' Myrick said.

No need to rub salt into his wounds. His career is over. The navy wouldn't let him command a rowboat now.

23 posted on 10/25/2007 8:53:20 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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The Nuclear Navy has the most unforgiving standards in safety and technical proficiency. I’m only surprised that they’re not bringing him up on UCMJ charges.


25 posted on 10/25/2007 8:55:44 PM PDT by DesScorp
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Cmdr Portland. Hmm. I had an XO was was Lcdr Portland. Probably the same guy.

It appears from a preliminary investigation on the Hampton that sailors in Submarine Squadron 11 had skipped the required analysis of the chemical and radiological properties of the submarine's reactor for more than a month, even though a daily check is required.

It is always the radcon! People who aren't Navy Nukes probably won't understand this but radcon (radiological controls) is one of the most tedious jobs on a nuclear reactor. Probably half of the Navy Nukes who have been to Captain's Mast (UCMJ Art 15) have been there due to falsified radcon logs. I remember 2 in my last two years at my old command--and one would have made Chief but was busted down to E-5 (and would have been denuked if his record wasn't spotless)!

The problem with reactor chemistry and radcon logs is that even though the job is tedious, if you start to make something up and aren't extremely smart about it, the logs will always give you away. Always. On my old boat those logs were reviewed over and over again before giving them to the CO to review just to make sure that some dumb ELT (Engineering Laboratory Technician--Navy Nuke who does Radcon work) didn't screw something up. Reading those logs and looking for discrepancies was about as much fun as watching paint dry, but without the fun fumes to distract you.

And if the CO doesn't catch errors in radcon logs, the Squadron will always put their nose in and check things out and the ORSE board, Naval Reactors Inspectors, and the Shipyards. Those logs that a tired ELT scribbles down at O'dark thirty will probably be reviewed by 10-15 people eventually. Someone will eventually find the error. I don't think even reactor operation logs are reviewed as religiously.

27 posted on 10/25/2007 9:48:16 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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I used to repair Squadron 11 boats on USS McKee. USS Hampton was commissioned about 2 weeks before I left active duty.

I’ve seen a few unplanned and quiet change of command ceremonies for the boats. As dangerous as sub duty is to all aboard, the captain’s career is probably most at risk.


35 posted on 10/26/2007 4:37:50 AM PDT by EricT. (The tree of liberty needs to be watered...)
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It appears from a preliminary investigation on the Hampton that sailors in Submarine Squadron 11 had skipped the required analysis of the chemical and radiological properties of the submarine's reactor for more than a month, even though a daily check is required.

When I first read this story, I was amazed that it sounded like the entire ELT (RC Div ?) group was in on this. I could see one guy trying to radio the logs, but the whole division? Was the Div-O relieved as well?

36 posted on 10/26/2007 4:58:40 AM PDT by PogySailor (Murtha'd: To be attacked by a corrupt politician for doing your job.)
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Blowing off the primaries for OVER A MONTH?

Damn, I knew ELT's were shady, but JEEZ!!!!
40 posted on 10/26/2007 8:02:10 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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What were these guys doing for the month? We are not at war requiring the use of a submarine. Were the crew just crusing around playing cards while on duty? How hard is it to just do the job you were hired to do?


45 posted on 10/26/2007 10:12:12 AM PDT by LetsRok
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