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U.S.-Mexico Border Plan Nixed
CBS 11 DALLAS ^ | 27 OCTOBER 2007 | AP

Posted on 10/27/2007 10:20:54 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Texas Landowners Have Refused To Allow Federal Government To Build 370 Mile Steel Fence

(AP) EL PASO, Texas -- Cold, hard cash is apparently not enough to quell the anger among landowners over a planned fence along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Opponents of the fence refused federal workers access to their land last month in South Texas. About the same time, the government offered to pay some property owners $3,000 in exchange for permission to conduct surveys for the project.

After many of them balked at the money on principle, the government abandoned the plan.

"I think it's blood money, bribery," said Brownsville Mayor Patricio M. Ahumada Jr.

The proposal to build 370 miles of steel fence is widely opposed in the Rio Grande Valley, the most heavily populated part of the Texas-Mexico border and a region with an economy and culture dependent on cross-border traffic.

The payments were being offered in a region where the median family income is about $30,000. But instead of welcoming the windfall, many residents were outraged when federal officials described the payment plan.

Ahumada, whose border city has already denied fence-planners access to city property, said the payments were insulting and disingenuous.

"The federal government is doing all it can to get access," Ahumada said. "They are thinning the herd (of opposition), so to speak, one by one. These tactics are not unusual when they want to get something done like this."

Johnny Hart, owner of the Riverside Club in Mission, said he sees the money as "nothing more than a bribe." But he wouldn't turn it down.

"Give me $3,000 and you can survey all you want, but it doesn't mean I am not going to fight you" on building the fence, Hart said.

Congress has authorized $1.2 billion to build 700 miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border. The project includes about 330 miles of so-called virtual fence - a network of cameras, high-tech sensors, radar and other technology. The remaining sections, primarily in urban areas are expected to have an actual fence. About 70 miles of actual fence is planned in South Texas.

Noel Benavides, a city councilman and business owner in Roma, said the payments would cloud the issue.

"If this was really something that was going to be beneficial to the whole community and the whole nation, I would be the first person to say, 'My friend, you can go in there and do what you need to do,"' Benavides said. "It's going to be a waste of time. It's not going to stop illegal immigrants."

Benavides, a lifelong resident of Roma, said residents and local governments may eventually lose their battle against the fence, but they plan to keep fighting. State officials, including Republican Gov. Rick Perry, also oppose plans to build the fence.

On Tuesday, Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Democrat from Laredo who is opposed to the fence, said Homeland Security authorities told him the payment plan was off. He did not elaborate.

It was not clear what prompted the change of heart. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Brad Benson did not return several phone calls from The Associated Press.

Ahumada said the issue was also a matter of historical and patriotic pride.

"You are talking about land that Texans and Americans shed blood for to keep," he said. "And now they are trying to move the border further north than established by treaty."


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1 posted on 10/27/2007 10:20:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The government has a number of options. The land needed for the border fence can simply be "taken" with compensation set by the court in case the landowner rejects the offer.

Alternatively, the government can go to court with counterclaims regarding the location of the boundary. There the landowner stands a chance of losing any compensation at all.

Another option would be to build the fence AROUND the distrungled property owner conveniently leaving him on the Mexican side (with no entrance into the US).

Of all the solutions possible I prefer moving the border to the North. If these guys don't want to play ball with the US, then the US shouldnt play ball with them.

2 posted on 10/27/2007 10:26:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Time for some use the old-fashioned imminent domaining.


4 posted on 10/27/2007 10:29:20 AM PDT by tailgunner (Conservative-Libertarian-Confederate-American)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Uhh, last I heard they were not planning to build the fence across the roads at the Ports of Entry. Sooooo, just what other cross border traffic is being discussed?
5 posted on 10/27/2007 10:32:04 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why this is even news is beyond me. A bunch of mexican surnamed folks don’t want to follow the law of the land?

How freakin surprising is that?


6 posted on 10/27/2007 10:34:35 AM PDT by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"And now they are trying to move the border further north than established by treaty."

What is that about? If some of our land is in Mexico, let's go take it and build the fence there!

7 posted on 10/27/2007 10:37:30 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The entire demographics, and thus destiny, of the U.S. must be transformed so that a few landowners not be bothered with a fence bordering their property.


8 posted on 10/27/2007 10:37:34 AM PDT by Plutarch
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"I think it's blood money, bribery," said Brownsville Mayor Patricio M. Ahumada Jr.

Blood Money, Patricio, well just maybe your loyalties favor south of the Rio Grand, NOT the U.S.A.

9 posted on 10/27/2007 10:37:48 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: muawiyah

The fence should be built where there is no river. Not that many people try to cross the river especially in
Brownsville. It is deeper and wider at the mouth of the Rio Grande river. Not many people try to swim it.

Think about it. With only 700 miles of fencing approved, the fence should be built where there is not a barrier already. It should be built where that scraggly bobwire fence is.

The Dept. Of Homeland wanted to place the fence where it isn’t necessarily needed.


10 posted on 10/27/2007 10:38:24 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: JackRyanCIA
Yeah, since when does the Federal government back down when a landowner objects to something? Especially since this implies that the landowners have veto power of US sovereignty.
11 posted on 10/27/2007 10:39:10 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: JackRyanCIA
This is just another fabricated excuse not to protect our country.

Yep.

12 posted on 10/27/2007 10:40:06 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: zerosix
Ahumada said the issue was also a matter of historical and patriotic pride.

"You are talking about land that Texans and Americans shed blood for to keep," he said. "And now they are trying to move the border further north than established by treaty."

Did you knee jerk yourself into a stupor before you read the entire article?

13 posted on 10/27/2007 10:43:06 AM PDT by misterrob (Seven down, 12 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"I think it's blood money, bribery," said Brownsville Mayor Patricio M. Ahumada Jr.

Nah. Call it a newly-discovered cultural appreciation of the Mexican practice of mortida.

14 posted on 10/27/2007 10:43:31 AM PDT by dorothy ( “The firm basis of government is justice, not pity.” —Woodrow Wilson)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The argument that the government can do nothing is a lot of BS.They can use the “immanent domain” option if they choose to, like a 50 foot path from one end to the other of the disputed land.


15 posted on 10/27/2007 10:51:41 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: texastoo

The fellows that crossed the border where it is on the river are/were called “wet backs” for obvious reasons. Today that term is not PC and seldom used by the MSM.


16 posted on 10/27/2007 10:57:08 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Well since these ‘landowners’ are so opposed to keeping illegals out, let them pay my taxes that support the illegals.
Sounds fair to me.


17 posted on 10/27/2007 10:58:40 AM PDT by sheana
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To: texastoo

The fence should be built where there is no river.
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A couple years back I flew from houston south over the rio grand and then over northern mexico on my way to hawaii.

Looking down from the airplane I could see millions of trail leading north all along the Rio Grande.

I’m sure everyone sees them. Its no great mystery what’s happening.


18 posted on 10/27/2007 11:03:52 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

No doubt you could see trails as there is no pavement. May people line up by the river holding cups, begging.

I am not saying that some people don’t swim across. They do. But you have to admit that you don’t see the pictures of them swimming like you see them walking across in Arizona, hundreds at a time. Arizona is where the fence is needed.


19 posted on 10/27/2007 11:10:37 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: ANGGAPO

If there were many people swimming, don’t you think there would be pictures on the nightly news?

Arizona needs the fencing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 10/27/2007 11:14:13 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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