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"Micro-Stamping": Incremental Gun Prohibition Advances in California
NRA Institute For Legislative Action ^ | 10/29/07 | NRA Institute For Legislative Action

Posted on 10/30/2007 9:15:57 AM PDT by Califreak

Forecasting possible additional expansions, H.R.1874, introduced in Congress by Rep. Robert Andrews (D-N.J.), proposes to prohibit any firearm—rifle, shotgun, or handgun, semi-automatic or not, including all models now in existence and any invented hereafter—that doesn’t micro-stamp effectively with every type of ammunition, every time. Gun control supporters see micro-stamping as another way of incrementally achieving what Congress and state legislatures have not done in a single stroke—prohibit the sale of guns.1

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; microstamping
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To: Travis McGee
If you would enslave a people, first make all of them felons. Then they have no appeal.

BLOAT.

41 posted on 10/30/2007 11:50:52 AM PDT by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: chaos_5
It may turn into a case of them coming for the guns and getting the ammo first... one round at a time!

Seriously. If it comes to that, let it come.

42 posted on 10/30/2007 11:57:24 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Quickgun; chaosagent; darkwing104

They know there are ways around it. They know there are ways to abuse it. They don’t care about that.

What they care about is making it incrementally difficult/discouraging for the law-abiding to comply - and thus just give up the right entirely, voluntarily.
No confiscations.
No bans.
Just making it ever more difficult to comply, ever more costly to err, the whippings ever more painful than the chains, compliance unto oblivion ever more preferable to protecting rights.
Eventually, most give up, many taken out, and the few surviving holdouts viewed as freaks who exercise their right at tremendous personal cost to little apparent end.

My niece thinks “gun” is a Bad Word and refuses to say it.
Somewhere, a tyrant-in-waiting smiles.


43 posted on 10/30/2007 12:11:17 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: andy58-in-nh
A Democrat Congress under the direction of such an executive power could truly do serious damage to our Constitutional rights

Arnold was the one that signed this bill in Ca

44 posted on 10/30/2007 12:28:25 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: andy58-in-nh
May I modify the display to

Threats to liberty, if unchallenged, only invite further abuse. “Gun control” isn’t about guns; it’s about control.

45 posted on 10/30/2007 12:30:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: ctdonath2
Ask your niece what she thinks about “Fire Extinguisher”
46 posted on 10/30/2007 12:35:13 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: beltfed308
Title says Cali, which is old news. Excerpt says nj rep introduced comprehensive bill.

so has this been introduced to the US house, or is it just talking phase?

Seems pretty damn in your face quick to be done already...

47 posted on 10/30/2007 12:37:54 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Gilbo_3
Submitted to Congress so it has legs. Whether it dies a deserved death who knows. I saw yesterday our pal Biden reintroduced the ‘94 AWB.
48 posted on 10/30/2007 12:43:55 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: B4Ranch

Be my guest.


49 posted on 10/30/2007 12:46:00 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: Califreak

It would be really good to see as much effort going into crime control as goes into so called gun control.


50 posted on 10/30/2007 12:53:53 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: monkeycard

“It would be really good to see as much effort going into crime control as goes into so called gun control.”

They seem to be failing miserably at this. Looks more and more like they will use(or should it be are using?) bunk laws and the crooks themselves to control the law-abiding, fostering ever more fear and dependence on government.


51 posted on 10/30/2007 12:57:45 PM PDT by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: P8riot
Paraphrasing: "If there must be trouble, then let it be in my time that my children may know peace."

I'm getting tired of trying to keep them from coming up with ways to make me a criminal for exercising my Rights.

52 posted on 10/30/2007 1:21:43 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: beltfed308
Thanks for the info.

this sh!t really is like a bad episode of the twilight zone.

The only serenity I can get from the relentless assault on our freedoms is that they arent hiding it any longer. Maybe they think that they control us enough for the final push, and maybe alot of fence sitters will finally realise that it is well past time to push back...

53 posted on 10/30/2007 1:26:36 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: darkwing104
What is going to stop the bad guys from re-manufacturing the parts or just filing the stamp off...I guess the moronic gun grabbers haven't figured that out yet.

Of COURSE they have figured that out! You are missing the point of the bill. It has NOTHING to do with affecting crime. It's all about making guns too expensive and too inconvenient for the populace to buy -- a back door gun ban. Cops and crooks will not be affected, but that's OK with the gun banners. The inevitable rise in crime (witness DC and Philly) will just give the state an excuse to accumulate even more power, which is the ENTIRE goal!

54 posted on 10/30/2007 1:34:22 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Gilbo_3
It is entirely possible that the baddies are getting over confident. It is no longer just a gun issue but a freedom one. Look at all the silly smoking laws and now trans fat. Combine all the affected po’ed groups together and things could change for the better. As the poster above stated, I am tired of the game and want to see a resolution while young enough.
55 posted on 10/30/2007 1:35:16 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: paul51
Arnold was the one that signed this bill in Ca

Arnold is a democrat, or rather a RINO. Did not start out that way, but sure has become one!

56 posted on 10/30/2007 1:35:38 PM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

Well and truly said!


57 posted on 10/30/2007 1:54:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Joe Brower

Be Ever Vigilant!


58 posted on 10/30/2007 2:24:07 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: beltfed308
It is entirely possible that the baddies are getting over confident. It is no longer just a gun issue but a freedom one. Look at all the silly smoking laws and now trans fat.

Excuse me, but does a technology like "micro-stamping" even exist? At one time, they were going to trace every round through embossed markings on the cartridge case. They can do that, but it's a case-at-a-time slog. And what about the "smart guns"? That technology never existed to the extent that a manufacturer could install it without incurring a huge liability risk.

This sounds like another liberal wet dream, like the 100MPG car, that is "readily available" because they want it to exist.

Liberalism means wishing things into existence, and ignoring reality. This is over and above whether it's a good idea in the first place.

59 posted on 10/30/2007 2:25:09 PM PDT by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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To: Califreak

Microstamp this, Rep. Andrews

60 posted on 10/30/2007 3:02:06 PM PDT by glock rocks (Did I forget my </s> tag?)
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