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Fred Thompson’s Immigration Opportunity
VolunteerVoters.com ^ | November 1st, 2007 | A. C. Kleinheider

Posted on 11/01/2007 8:55:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

By Kleinheider
November 1st, 2007 - 8:13 am

Steve Gill pens a column this morning counseling Fred Thompson to hit the immigration issue hard — especially Hillary Clinton’s rambling answer in Tuesday night’s Democratic debate regarding drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. An answer she has now retracted.

Steve Gill on Fred’s immigration opportunity:

Thompson has the opportunity to pounce on the issue and make it his, which would give him an advantage in both the Republican Primary as well as the general election. Granted, Thompson’s personality and style do not fit well with the image of a quick, cat-like “pounce.” So perhaps he should be more like a grizzly bear and launch a big pawed “swipe” at Hillary…with the claws out.

It would appear that Fred is already heeding Gill’s advice:

While Hillary Clinton was speaking out both sides of her mouth at last night’s debate over the issue of drivers licenses for illegal aliens, what went unsaid is that this is a recipe for increased voter fraud. Under the federal “Motor Voter” law (the National Voter Registration Act of 1993), states must provide applicants for drivers licenses with the opportunity to register to vote.

Giving legal drivers licenses to illegal immigrants is wrong and would provide them the opportunity to register to vote in our country. People who are not citizens of the United States should not be encouraged by pandering politicians to further break our laws and risk the health of our political system.

And Clinton is not his only target on the issue. Fred is going after Mitt Romney as well:

Thompson’s campaign also included all the usual oppo on Romney’s prevous, much softer stance on immigration, including the oft-cited Boston Globe interview from November of 2005 in which Romney called an early version of comprehensive reform “reasonable.”

If he has one, this could be Thompson’s moment. No top-tier Republican has effectively made any hay out of Romney’s marked change in tone on immigration. John McCain and Rudy Giuliani have cited the 2005 Globe story umpteen times, but have not been able to do any damage to Romney on immigration because of their own difficulties on the issue.

Fred Thompson is floundering in the polls and the media elite have already handicapped the race and decided on high that he will lose.

Fred Thompson can reasonable be said to be losing the horserace aspect of this campaign. Of course, this is a game he was never intent on playing. He is, or so he says, unconcerned by polling and elite opinion.

That may be true, however, does he not still need something, anything, that will resonate with the public and get him back in this race? Romney has the money and organization. Giuliani has the compelling narrative of 9/11, elements of the Religious Right are coalescing around Huckabee and Ron Paul is attempting to lead a social movement. Fred Thompson needs something in his campaign right now. Is it immigration? Can immigration be the issue that put Fred Thompson back in this hunt in defiance of elite opinion and polling numbers?

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; axisofdesperation; fred; fredthompson; hunterwho; immigrantlist; immigration; postcardfromoblivion
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To: ejonesie22

Do you mean the one about Thompson in the futures markets?

That post wasn’t pulled. It was exactly the same post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1919127/posts?page=123#123

Or are you talking about our Formula1 exchange on a Hunter thread that I started?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1917686/posts


81 posted on 11/01/2007 11:51:31 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: ejonesie22

Yes.


82 posted on 11/01/2007 11:52:00 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"You don’t do your guy any good by trashing other good candidates."

I'm so glad someone finally said that! Hunter is definately in my top two list. Unfortunately, some of his supporters remind me of a Paul supporter who had my ear for 24 hours. sheesh

I would love to see the Hunter supporters lose the 'red headed step child' aura (no offense to red heads or step children!).

83 posted on 11/01/2007 11:52:42 AM PDT by sweet_diane (We lived our little drama.... and thankfully it is over. Thank you Coach Saban!)
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To: Kevmo

Oops, I meant to say Yes, see post #81. No abuse button on that thread, so I’m still scratching my head.


84 posted on 11/01/2007 11:52:50 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Paperdoll

I’m just trying to figure out where the obvious flip flop is. It’s obviously not the issue at hand, which would be the New York drivers’ license law and Hillary’s handling of the issue in the debate, and, frankly, I don’t see where Fred’s been particularly inconsistent on illegal immigration in general.


85 posted on 11/01/2007 11:53:17 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.... Valor.)
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To: trisham

Perfection still alludes me, but only on Thursdays...


86 posted on 11/01/2007 11:53:28 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: Kevmo

The latter...

I don’t think I said anything about the former being pulled either...


87 posted on 11/01/2007 11:54:36 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: sweet_diane; ArrogantBustard
The problem is that Thompson and Hunter are probably the two best, conservative candidates out of the bunch and all of this tearing each up over these two, as if they were the enemy, doesn’t help the big picture cause.

Even in the debates, the biggest difference Hunter and Thompson had with each other is MFN Trading Status of China. This is tiddly winks compared to anti gun/pro abortion Rudy, flipper Romney, open boarders Huck, or surrender monkey Paul.

How about if we all BOOST Hunter and Thompson and let the voters decide instead of turning off people to our respective candidates by being a**h****. (the last wasn’t targeted at anyone in particular.)

88 posted on 11/01/2007 11:56:25 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Kevmo

Seems a tick hypocritical...


89 posted on 11/01/2007 11:57:19 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: mnehrling

But I am an A**h***, just ask my wife...

;-)


90 posted on 11/01/2007 11:58:56 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

The latter...
***Then, what you’re saying is:

Kevmo: “I’ve stayed away from the Fred threads in order to not knock down a good conservative.”
ejonesie22: Can I quote you on that in regards to our earlier conversation....

Looks like we have two F1 cars indeed...
***Yes, you can quote me, especially because that thread was a Hunter thread.

I’ve recently started getting interested in Intrade and I will comment on Fred on those threads. Where’s the indignation on the Fred-Tanking-on-Intrade thread? It’s the same exact post.


91 posted on 11/01/2007 11:59:04 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo
The same level of comments were appearing on the thread where the LATimes was withholding a story about a leading candidate, and even the posters on this thread acknowledge it could be Fred.

****************

Not me. I saw that thread, and it seemed to me that it was the supporters of other candidates that were pushing that idea.

92 posted on 11/01/2007 12:00:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mnehrling
How about if we all BOOST Hunter and Thompson and let the voters decide instead of turning off people to our respective candidates by being a**h****.

That's a brilliant idea.

93 posted on 11/01/2007 12:00:41 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kevmo
Um, I never said anything about indignation, you're over complicating things again.

I simply was pointing out that you called Fred a good conservative. In light of our F1 posts I find that interesting. Nothing more to it, relax.

94 posted on 11/01/2007 12:02:08 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: mnehrling

Hear, hear!


95 posted on 11/01/2007 12:02:33 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: RockinRight
What would you rather have? FDT, ELECTED...implementing his immigration plan...or Hunter, LOSING...and Hillary giving them driver’s licenses?

I'm usually one for 'voting for the lesser of two evils' but say Bush was able to run again versus Hillary. I'd most definitely vote third party because Bush is intransigent on amnesty for illegals.

96 posted on 11/01/2007 12:04:18 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: ejonesie22

Seems a tick hypocritical...
***I agree. No indignation for the same post on a different thread,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1919127/posts?page=123#123

but being called scum for the same post here.

I think the explanation for the hypocrisy from the Fred crowd is that they’re here defending their guy on immigration and they’re used to having Hunter supporters play hard ball. But I usually stay away from the Fred threads. In this case, the FredHeads stayed away from the Fred-tanking-on-Intrade thread because, well, I don’t really know why they stayed away. Maybe because it was too much trouble, they’re tired of the fight, they got caught off guard, they don’t know about Intrade, could be a lot of things. Also, the Fredheads have been pretty quiet on the LAT story-quashing rumor as well. Probably for similar reasons. So here comes a Freeper that plays hardball on those 2 threads, comes into this thread and the fredheads get up in arms. That is an indication that the Fred Followers have started to abdicate their responsibility to defend their guy on those prior threads.

My post that got pulled on this thread is a copy of the post on another thread. Where were the Fred followers on those threads? Getting all upset about it now is just what you say it is, hypocrisy.


97 posted on 11/01/2007 12:06:08 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: ejonesie22

Then use it strategically on the RINOs. There are plenty to go around.


98 posted on 11/01/2007 12:06:11 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: ejonesie22

Yes, I do think Fred is a good conservative, for the most part.

Even on our Formula1 exchange I had called his position on immigration as johnny-come-lately, IIRC.

BTW, I thought that was a pretty good exchange, the formula1 thing.


99 posted on 11/01/2007 12:07:39 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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100 posted on 11/01/2007 12:07:52 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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