Skip to comments.Hillary Reveals Her Inner Self
Posted on 11/01/2007 10:04:27 PM PDT by gpapa
The story isn't that the Democrats finally took on Hillary Clinton. Nor is it that they were gentlemanly to the point of gingerly and tentative. There was an air of "Please, somebody kill her for me so I can jump in and show high minded compassion at her plight!"
Barack Obama, with his elegance and verbal fluency really did seem like that great and famous political figure from his home state of Illinois--Adlai Sevenson, who was not at all hungry, not at all mean, and operated at a step removed from the grubby game. Mr. Obama is like someone who would write in his diaries, "I shall point out Estes Kefauver's manifold inconsistencies, then to luncheon with Arthur and Marietta."
The odd thing is it's easier to be a killer when you know exactly what you stand for, when you have a real philosophy. The philosophy becomes a platform from which you can strike without ambivalence. Mr. Obama seems born to be mild. But still, that's not the story.
Nor is it that John Edwards seems like a furry animal on a wheel, trying so hard, to the point he's getting a facial tic, and getting nowhere, failing to get his little furry paws on his prey, not knowing you have to get off the wheel to get to the prey. You have to stop the rounded, rote, bromidic phrases, and use a normal language that cannot be ignored.
(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...
Great article, Peggy really delivers the message to the “persuadable middle’.
I hope she’s right about the old strategy no longer working in her favor. Hillary is stuck in time but this isn’t the 90s, or 70s, and we need someone with the ability to see that and respond appropriately to the threats of this time. Reruns are for summers and Hollywood strikes, not national and cultural survival.
that makes Peggy 1 for 7 in new articles
She’s too cerebral. It’s almost like she can’t stop writing or must grind out a minimum number of words. The verbiage, IMHO, overwhelms the message. But otherwise, I like what she wrote, and I read her every Friday in WSJ.
From the headline I expected to see her in true Succubus form....
“I shall point out Estes Kefauver’s manifold inconsistencies, then to luncheon with Arthur and Marietta.”
Peggy, you are sounding more and more like Maureen Dowd.
I expect to see you wearing your red heels and setting at a bar soon.
ew. Just ew. :p
"She has been accused of doubletalk and she has denied it. And she is right. It was triple talk, quadruple talk, Olympic level nonresponsiveness. And it was, even for her, rather heavy and smug."
Honestly, how could anyone listening to her not feel their head spinning with her statements?
It’s a roundabout way of saying Hillary is going to have to pay the piper.
Bush, clinton, Bush, clinton, Bush...
Ack! I don’t think I like the cycle!
Don’t forget the third Clinton. By the time we have eight years of Hillary, eight years of another Bush, Chelsea might be old enough to run. I liked the t-shirt a poster directed me to awhile back. It had a picture of Bill and Hillary and the words, “Do not resuscitate”
Like an evil Lawrence Welk..."Take it, Vince. And ah one, ah two, ah three..."
She summed up Stevenson's tone perfectly.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with writing stylishly in order to make a point. Not everything has to be written to the lowest common denominator.
Hmmm...just saw this on Wikipedia regarding the bio of Huma Abedin...it wasn’t there yesterday.
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Huma Abedin and Hillary ClintonHuma Abedin is an aide to the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton. Media sources describe her as one of Clinton’s closest advisers, particularly on issues involving the Middle East, and often comment on her purportedly renowned competence, striking personal appearance, as well as the general confusion regarding details of her personal life.
Abedin was born in Kalamazoo, Michigan to an Indian father and Pakistani mother, both Muslims. When she was two years old, the family relocated to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Abedin returned to the United States to attend George Washington University.
If she were a genuine, honest person, this would be HRC's campaign slogan.
When she writes something like this about Hillary, and it appears in a widely read newspaper, one that is highly respected, and her column is thereafter syndicated throughout the nation, and reverberated on the Internet, she gains a wide hearing. If Hillary is to be taken down, she must be taken down by other females. When men do it, the Clintons simply deploy their surrogates to slander the truth teller. Of course they try the same thing against female critics, but that raises problems for them and it is not nearly as effective. The Clinton war room can dismiss Rush Limbaugh as a hatemonger and sell that lie but it cannot effectively smear Peggy Noonan that way.
It is just possible that the tide is turning against Bitch Clinton. I consider the reaction to her performance in the last debate to be fascinating because she has done the same thing countless times before and generated no such reaction. Why now? Are the stories about the Chinese money laundering having effect? Often the media are motivated to attack a public figure for reasons which have nothing to do with the subject matter of the attack. Could it be that even the media are beginning to understand the implications for America of the Clinton presidency? Could it be these rumors of lesbian connection are generating the same reaction and for the same reason? Are the drive-by media worried that this rumor will be confirmed only after Hillary is nominated, or worse, as an October surprise before the election? Do the media really want to get rid of her now and clear the decks for Obama in time to save the election for a Democrat? Are the media finding some vestigial righteousness and trying to destroy Hillary because she is a lesbian but they are too politically correct to admit it?
Before one dismisses this soap opera analysis out of hand, it is well to consider that when the Hillary put on her pink suit and damned the vast right wing conspiracy, there was another dynamic at work. We men reacted to the ill logic of the conspiracy charge but the women of America were empathizing with Hillary as the martyred spouse. They were watching a different soap opera.
Hillary cannot be a martyr, she cannot be the figure of the wronged woman, if she's a lesbian in a marriage of convenience with Slick. The whole dynamic changes, it will not be Hillary who was betrayed but the women of America who were betrayed by Hillary. They must either reject Hillary or except their own gullibility and foolishness.
As a foaming at the mouth, flopping on the floor conservative, I am unmoved by Peggy Noonan's conclusion that the problem with Hillary is, "policy." We conservatives have known about Hillary's policy deficiencies from the beginning. Why the Epiphany now? Why should middle America, the women of America who will decide this next election, only now after this debate conclude that Hillary is on the wrong side of "policy"?
Are we reading and airy -fairy proxy for the lesbian charge?
Terrific analysis--and good to read you again.
You're dead-on when pointing out that if Hillary's going to fail it has to be at the hands of women, and men have their blinders on when they laugh at her "touchy-feely" approach (remember how many people laughed at her "listening tour"?).
The reason HRC is so hard to defeat is because as politically incorrect as it is to say, women ARE different from men in terms of their thinking, not just their physical anatomy. When women hear men laughing at things like "listening," they think that men don't get it, and that maybe someone like HRC IS what they need in office.
Many women are going to vote for her because she is a woman. If that solid core can be cracked, HRC has no "up" she can reach through other means--men, conservatives, minorities--she's already nailed down all the hardcore support she can from the "edges" so now she needs to get more from the mushy middle. Those women who aren't wedded to ideology will look at her, and if they don't find too many objections they'll say "Why not?" If they look at her and see an incompetent who will be calling the shots in the post-9/11 world where their children might be getting blown up by suicide bombs in the USA, she's done.
“It is just possible that the tide is turning against Bitch Clinton”
No, no, no: then we must hope that “the tide” subsides.
As aforementioned by yours truly here at Freep:
“Please, oh Lord, please, please, please, oh pretty please, please oh Lord: let the Dems make Hillary Klintoon their POTUS nominee in 2008.
Pretty please with a cherry on top.”
Yep, that’s her.
I have long ago posted that our best and perhaps only chance of winning this next election is if we can run against Hillary.
If the dem candidates want to truly bury Hillary, all they have to do is bring up her illegal fund raising. Hammering her on that topic will force the media to report it.
I don’t know if I accept your premise that lesbianism trumps policy with the average liberal (and semi-liberal) woman voter in America.
I think that the average woman voter who is inclined to vote for Hillary (and that leaves out most conservative women) wouldn’t change their vote simply because Hillary turned out to be a lesbian.
I think one issue and one issue alone will move those women: fear for the security of this country and their families. Which gets back to policy.
If the average liberal or semi-liberal woman begins to think that Hillary’s policy will lead to more terrorist attacks on America, they will vote against Hillary.
That’s the issue. Not lesbianism. In my opinion.
I think Peggy has written a terrific article.
Her Heinous is running a 1992 campaign, War Room, Intimidation, Threats and all in 2007.
She is totally out of touch. IMHO part of the reason that Slick was so successful with double talk, parsing, and flat out lying, is that people didn’t quite get the pattern and the evil intent behind it.
Hillary is so predictable...you know she is gonna scream “foul”, go after Russert, and want to have everything all ways. It is getting old and stale, and everyone feels it.
I have long ago posted that our best and perhaps only chance of winning this next election is if we can run against Hillary.I don't know. Are you saying Obama would be strong in the general election? Or Edwards?
I agree that Hillary will be easy to beat, if we have a viable candidate of our own.
But so will Obama, who is an ardent leftist. And so will Edwards, who is a flaming lawyer.
Look at it this way: 90% of the black vote is going to the D side of the ballot no matter what. Along with 80% of the Latino vote. White males are already split and probably not changing much one way or the other. The only demographic up for grabs is the Soccer Mom. I think she is more inclined to vote for Hillary than she is for Obama or Edwards.
Edwards as the perky little hamster. Oh, I LIKE that.
But after these distinctions are drawn, there must be a residue of this demographic group which can be treated and considered as women . And these must be approached on an issue by issue basis being mindful that womens' reactions to issues are different from mens' and, as you point out, the manner of delivery is far more important to women than to men. At the foot of your note you suggest that women should be alerted that the war on terror threatens their children. You are exactly right. Every issue must be tied to such considerations.
For example, healthcare is being driven by the Democrats because they know how potent an issue this can be with with women. We Republicans and conservatives respond by saying that the idea that the federal government should be usurping healthcare is unconstitutional and unwise because it would cycle one out of every seven dollars spent on our economy through the exchequer. It would convert health delivery into something akin to the efficiencies we experience in the post office, as opposed to Federal Express.
Many women simply do not hear these arguments. They will let someone else worry about the Constitution, they are worried about who has to change their mother's diaper because their mothers have Alzheimers. Virtually every issue has to be seen in this light.
I consider that there must be a vulnerability in the womens' demographic to wedge issues just as there is within the general voting demographic. These issues must be exploited ruthlessly-but the manner of doing so is everything.
Apologies for the misrecognition of the word "except" when I dictated into my Dragon Naturally Speaking software "accept" in my post to you. software saves me from looking foolish for spelling errors but leaves me vulnerable to those kinds of sound errors which I sometimes fail to catch in proofreading.
This article of hers is awful hard to read. With all the extra verbage taking up space, the message is lost.
Less of a two step, more of a goose step.
Riiiight...Obama came off as a waste of Carbon Credits. The man made President Bush look like a toast-master for all of the meaning and significance his words carried. Who cares if you can speak for 90 minutes when you don't say anything?
It was a sad waste of oxygen for all participants.
As much as I enjoyed the original post, I always enjoy your follow-ups. Just getting in a "me too..."
I like that!
Are the media finding some vestigial righteousness and trying to destroy Hillary because she is a lesbian but they are too politically correct to admit it?
Hillary cannot be a martyr, she cannot be the figure of the wronged woman, if she's a lesbian in a marriage of convenience with Slick.
Are we reading and airy -fairy proxy for the lesbian charge?
You nailed Noonan. Maybe she gets paid per word. Or maybe she’s the columnist equivilent of Obama, I mean, like Obama, she uses an arsenal of harmless, elegant words when just a few pithy phrases could mortally wound Hillary. Hard to tell whether Noonan or Obama want to indict Hillary, or impress us with their vocabulary.
It was reported that all the media knew what the LA Times was withholding.....Has Noonen let the cat out of the bag with the lesbian talk about the beast.....???
SoroSauron is behind the Giuliani candidacy...
I think we have to accept that most of the electorate does not think the way we on Free Republic think. If they did there would be no blue states at all, Gore would not have taken the popular vote, and Kerry would not have come within 60,000 votes in Ohio taking the whole country.
Speaker Pelosi might be doing real estate deals-maybe she would be getting one more face lift, but if she did she would be eating lunch out of hat. Hillary Clinton would be in jail.
In a world of electoral politics you have to deal with the world as it is and not with the world as it is within our own bubble. So, in reply to your observations about lesbianism and it's potential affect on female liberal voters, I quite agree that, if anything, she would gain more votes from this demographic. I am talking about the mushy middle, the females who see themselves in terms of their relationships and not in terms of political issues. These women should put the fear of God into Hillary and her supporters and, more importantly, into the professional politicians of the Democrat party. It is these professionals, in league with the media elites, who might turn against Hillary not because they're opposed to lesbianism but because they're opposed to losing elections.
My belief is that Obama would be a stronger candidate than Hillary and we would be hard pressed to beat him. Al Gore, a committed leftist, took a majority of the American voters. John Kerry came very close to winning the electoral votes and would have won had he taken Ohio. Therefore, a liberal posture is not a fatal impediment to reaching the White House, especially when one has a fair wind blowing at one's back created by the media. If we know anything about the media we know they will blow a tsunami to put the first African- American into the White House. On the other hand, Hillary is despised by nearly 50% of the country who have declared that they are resolute against voting for her. This cuts into Reagan Democrats, and the union Democrats, and independents and, the group we are talking about, middle-class women. This is where the race ultimately gets decided unless our Republican base has been so eroded that it will just be overwhelmed.
This is where my pessimism about the election comes in. If you look at the midterm on a state-by-state basis, it is clear that we were unable to hold any one of the four states which we must have if we are to retain the White House (Missouri Ohio Florida Virginia). Since then, the war has turned to for the better but the economy is looking very, very shaky. The Democrats have shot themselves in the foot in Congress and Bush is looking better. But we have so much ground to make up and the Hill is so steep that any conservative who gets out of the bubble must be very concerned indeed.
Oh no, I’m going to need therapy now.Could’nt the title have been just a little different? Sheesh.
I know the article is about Hillary, but the imagery in this sentence is worth highlighting. And very funny.
I loved that description of Obama and thought it described Stevenson to a t. Why do you object?
I don’t think so. I think the time now is for a presidential election and that changes everything.
And until men quit doing as you did, quit calling her “bitch”, she won’t be taken down. All that word does even to a conservative woman is set any woman’s teeth on edge. It muddies your fine argument with something that women instinctively hate, men who call women, any women, “bitches”. It is like the “N” word for many many women. I know there are exceptions, but I don’t like women who call women “bitches” either. It is a sisterly kind of thing.
Otherwise interesting post.
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