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Police wait outside Petit home as girls perish inside (CT)
WTNH Television ^ | 11/02/07 | Puppage

Posted on 11/02/2007 4:34:12 AM PDT by Puppage

New Haven (AP) _ A law enforcement official says Cheshire police responding to a fatal home invasion in July delayed entering the home because of assurances from a 911 caller who was told no one would be hurt if police were not notified.

But as officers waited outside, the home erupted into flames, killing two girls. Their mother was strangled, and their father was badly beaten, but survived.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because authorities have not discussed details of the case, says the assurance that no one would be hurt was one of the reasons police did not immediately try to stop the home invasion. The official would not identify the caller.

The mother, 48-year-old Jennifer Hawke-Petit, had been taken to a bank and forced to withdraw $15,000. The official says a bank employee who called police relayed the information that no one would be hurt if police were not notified.

Steven Hayes of Winsted pleaded not guilty today to capital felony and murder, kidnapping, sexual assault and arson charges in connection with the killings.

Joshua Komisarjevsky of Cheshire pleaded not guilty Tuesday to the same charges and waived his probable cause hearing.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ct; petit; rkba
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The police on scene just in time to tape off the area & snap photos of the lifeless bodies.
1 posted on 11/02/2007 4:34:14 AM PDT by Puppage
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Horrifying.


2 posted on 11/02/2007 4:39:44 AM PDT by jnygrl (A big mouth coupled with a small mind is a dangerous combination)
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To: Puppage

If only the Hawke-Petit family had had some self defense possibilities....I wonder why they were victimized?


3 posted on 11/02/2007 4:43:13 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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the home erupted into flames, killing two girls

How instantaneous was this? No one rushed in?

4 posted on 11/02/2007 4:45:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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How instantaneous was this?

Local news here said that after raping the girls, they poured gas on & around them. The only one to survive was the father.

5 posted on 11/02/2007 4:47:27 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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The official says a bank employee who called police relayed the information that no one would be hurt if police were not notified.

And the police acted based on THAT "boiler plate" hold-up note information?

Astounding and terribly tragic.

(I wondered at the time of this story why it took so long for the police to act when the bank had notified police.)

6 posted on 11/02/2007 4:51:36 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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I cannot find fault with the police. If those cretins poured gasoline in the girls’ bedrooms and lit it, it would have taken a few minutes for the fire to be noticed from the outside. And now those subhuman scum plead not guilty.....


7 posted on 11/02/2007 4:51:49 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Puppage

This happened almost a year ago and was posted here. I thought it was a new incident until something clicked and I checked the date of the article.


8 posted on 11/02/2007 4:53:11 AM PDT by Aliska
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My #8. I didn't read the date right. It is correct, and it is a recapitulation of an old story as noted in the article that it happened in July.

Anyway, it was one of the most horrific things I had read, the kind of thing that makes you wonder how it could have been avoided in the first place.

I think the concensus here was that the father should have been armed . . .

9 posted on 11/02/2007 4:56:30 AM PDT by Aliska
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What if games of gotcha are for children. The police didn’t want anyone hurt. They made the best decisions they could,(right or wrong) based on the information available to them at the time. Only people with a personal grudge against the police are interested in condemning them for what they tried to accomplish. If you want perfect, get actors and a script writer and watch it all wrap up in an hour.


10 posted on 11/02/2007 5:03:58 AM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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Another example of how you can’t rely on the authorities to protect you, and the only justice is vigilante justice.


11 posted on 11/02/2007 5:10:34 AM PDT by Brilliant
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"...I cannot find fault with the police. .."

Me neither. Even if the perps had run into the police at the front door—even if the perps had run past the police at the front door—saving the girls' lives would have been too late or problematical.

Asphyxiation commonly occurs first in fires; so rather than succumbing to the physical trauma, they would already have been doomed.

12 posted on 11/02/2007 5:14:16 AM PDT by Does so
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If only the Hawke-Petit family had had some self defense possibilities....I wonder why they were victimized?

They were victimized because the two career criminal parolees happened to see the mother and 11 y.o. daughter coming out of the grocery store and followed them home.

They entered the home later that night through an unlocked cellar door. Armed only with air rifles they bought at Walmart, they beat the father unconscious with the baseball bat he took with him to investigate the noise of their break-in.

13 posted on 11/02/2007 5:21:41 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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“...I cannot find fault with the police. ..”

It another Monday morning quarterbacking when some people condemn people for what they did or did not do. The blame for this tragedy lies solely with the monsters that did it. We tie the hands of law enforcement and then bash them when things go awry. Had they rushed into the place and the people were killed because of their actions, the same people would be saying why didnt they just wait and blamed them for acting like cowboys. My prayers go out to the innocents involved.


14 posted on 11/02/2007 5:23:17 AM PDT by donnab (saving liberals brains....one moron at a time.)
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To: Puppage

Thanks to the way the courts have boxed them in, the police can do very little to prevent a crime. They investigate crimes after the fact and attempt to arrest the criminals.

The only person who can defend you is you.


15 posted on 11/02/2007 5:25:02 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Aliska

July 23rd is hardly a year ago.
http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-cheshire1031.artoct31,0,1554603.story


16 posted on 11/02/2007 5:31:54 AM PDT by toldyou
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With animal invaders bent on rape and murder, an armed and prepared homeowner is the surest line of defense. Connecticut needs a Castle Doctrine.

I live two miles from where this happened, and I say leave the Chesire police alone. The real scandal here is the self defence laws in CT. Here's part of a document CASTLE DOCTRINE AND SELF-DEFENSE which I think is CT's official position:

But deadly physical force cannot be used unless the actor reasonably believes that the attacker is using or about to use deadly physical force or inflicting or about to inflict great bodily harm.

Additionally, a person is not justified in using deadly physical force if he knows he can avoid doing so with complete safety by:

1. retreating, except from his home or office in cases where he was not the initial aggressor or except in cases where he a peace officer, special policeman, or a private individual assisting a peace officer or special policeman at the officer's directions regarding an arrest or preventing an escape;

2. surrendering possession to property the aggressor claims to own; or

3. obeying a demand that he not take an action he is not otherwise required to take.

Revolting.

17 posted on 11/02/2007 5:48:53 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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To: toldyou

I know. I’m tired today.


18 posted on 11/02/2007 6:23:54 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Trailerpark Badass
beat the father unconscious with the baseball bat he took with him to investigate the noise of their break-in.

If the father had a 45 auto instead. The story would have been on the Bang list here with the headline "Two home invaders shot dead"

19 posted on 11/02/2007 6:29:51 AM PDT by painter (Oval Office, Fred. Might be something you ought to think about.)
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Should’ve told the cops there was a bag of pot inside instead of an insane killer. A whole SWAT team would’ve piled in.
20 posted on 11/02/2007 6:36:25 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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