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Sinking Currency, Sinking Country
World Net Daily ^ | 11/02/07 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 11/02/2007 5:23:12 AM PDT by Thorin

The euro, worth 83 cents in the early George W. Bush years, is at $1.45.

The British pound is back up over $2, the highest level since the Carter era. The Canadian dollar, which used to be worth 65 cents, is worth more than the U.S. dollar for the first time in half a century.

Oil is over $90 a barrel. Gold, down to $260 an ounce not so long ago, has hit $800.

Have gold, silver, oil, the euro, the pound and the Canadian dollar all suddenly soared in value in just a few years?

Nope. The dollar has plummeted in value, more so in Bush's term than during any comparable period of U.S. history. Indeed, Bush is presiding over a worldwide abandonment of the American dollar.

Is it all Bush's fault? Nope.

The dollar is plunging because America has been living beyond her means, borrowing $2 billion a day from foreign nations to maintain her standard of living and to sustain the American Imperium.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: alasandalack; democrat; depression; despair; doom; dustbowl; economicignorance; economictreason; freetrade; fretradefolly; mercantilism; patbuchanan; pitchforkpat; sackclothandashes; woeisme
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Buchanan nails it.
1 posted on 11/02/2007 5:23:15 AM PDT by Thorin
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To: Thorin

You tell it Pat...tell it like it is!


2 posted on 11/02/2007 5:29:41 AM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: Thorin

Why is Buchanan so upset? He’s the one who wanted to tax the bejeebers out of imports to begin with in order to make them more expensive compared to American goods. Now that’s exactly what we’ve got anyway with a low dollar. The only difference is that the market determined when and how much, not some pin-headed government bureaucrat sitting in a stuffy office in Washington, D.C. We moved efficiently to this result by means of market mechanisms.

Is Buchanan buying into the European bullcrap that the value of your currency has relevance independent from its economic signficance because it’s a matter of National “prestige?” Personally, I would rather have a strong economy than a strong dollar. My National pride is not conditioned on the value of the dollar.


3 posted on 11/02/2007 5:30:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Thorin
Buchanan is a total moron, again. A weak dollar makes imports expensive and our exports cheaper. It helps our domestic economy and helps wean us off our addiction to cheap imported goods. Thus a weak dollar is GOOD for our economy. A strong dollar, on the other hand does nothing but gratify the egos of Know Nothing dinosaurs like Buchanan.
4 posted on 11/02/2007 5:31:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: MNJohnnie

What exports?

We’ve squandered our entire industrial base.

What have we got to export anymore?

Grain? Cattle. Leftist Hollyweird movies and CD’s.


6 posted on 11/02/2007 5:33:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: Thorin
Buchanan nails it.

Yeah, about like martin luther did.

Naive drivel pandering to people's naivete.

7 posted on 11/02/2007 5:33:23 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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To: Thorin

It’ll get worse before it gets better but like all cycles it will turn around.

Although it looks like oil and gold will continue to rise: oil to $100 and gold perhaps to $900. The deficit is the main problem, and somewhere Friedman is spinning in his grave.


8 posted on 11/02/2007 5:33:50 AM PDT by period end of story (I may be totally wrong, but I'm a dancing fool.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wrong. The dollar is way to week and it is hurting middle class families.


9 posted on 11/02/2007 5:33:54 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
Borrowing $2 billion a day from foreign nations to maintain her standard of liviing

Another know nothing hysteric myth without the slightest base in fact. Pat is almost a stupid as Ron Paul. $2 billion a day would be a federal deficit of 730 billion a year. Our actual Fed Deficit this year is around $190 billion.

Once again Pat demonstrates he is so sunk into senility that he has lost all touch with factual reality.

10 posted on 11/02/2007 5:34:16 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: Brilliant

I guess Pat”SS” Buchanan blames the joooos for this one.


11 posted on 11/02/2007 5:34:38 AM PDT by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: MNJohnnie
>>>>>Buchanan is a total moron,

No, you are. The only reason our chronic and enormous deficits have not already impoverished America is that the dollar has been the reserve currency for the rest of the world. That is slowly changing, as the dollar falls in value. And when it does change, we will have no one to balme but ourselves and our profligacy and improvidence.

12 posted on 11/02/2007 5:35:55 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We’ve squandered our entire industrial base.

Very appropriate screen name.

Praytell, can you elaborate on this assertion of yours?

13 posted on 11/02/2007 5:36:47 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (keep the heat on the hillary.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Praytell, can you elaborate on this assertion of yours?

-

Sure:

Peoples. Republic. of China.

Any questions?


14 posted on 11/02/2007 5:37:49 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: Brilliant
Should not our import / expoet taxes simply be equal to those imposed by the trading country....would this level the playing field?
15 posted on 11/02/2007 5:38:15 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: MNJohnnie

Holy crap. You can’t be serious.


16 posted on 11/02/2007 5:39:15 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Hydroshock
I see Dogma Uber Alles. We shouldn’t actually look at the facts, we should cling to the Know Nothing dogmas screamed by never been anything fools like Pat here.

There is almost no difference these days between Pat and the far Leftists. Both are completely panicked by the normal operations of the Capitalist Free Market system

17 posted on 11/02/2007 5:39:23 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

787’s


18 posted on 11/02/2007 5:39:32 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Al Gore, the Jessie Jackson of weather.)
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To: Perdogg
>>>>>I guess Pat”SS” Buchanan blames the joooos for this one.

Did you read the column? Are you actually capable of reading and understanding? Or are you merely conditioned to spout moronic soundbites when you hear the appropriate word?

19 posted on 11/02/2007 5:39:33 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Thorin
Have gold, silver, oil, the euro, the pound and the Canadian dollar all suddenly soared in value in just a few years?

Yes.

Buchanan nails it.

LOL!

20 posted on 11/02/2007 5:39:33 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: MNJohnnie

If a weak currency is good for a nation, perhaps we should emulate Indonesia... and make our dollar trade at 13,000 ‘dollars’ per euro.

Then our currency would REALLY be good.


21 posted on 11/02/2007 5:40:04 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Republicans are just Socialism-lite.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Thus a weak dollar is GOOD for our economy. A strong dollar, on the other hand does nothing but gratify the egos of Know Nothing dinosaurs like Buchanan.

A weak dollar is good for exporters, and bad for importers. So it's a mixed bag. It also allows foreigners more purchasing power over your assets, etc. In fact in some ways a weak, and weaker, dollar can be quite harmful to the economy.

22 posted on 11/02/2007 5:40:54 AM PDT by period end of story (I may be totally wrong, but I'm a dancing fool.)
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To: DungeonMaster

China recently announced, they are forming a national aerospace project to compete with Airbus and Boeing.

They’ll do it.

We of course will do nothing to protect that industry anymore than we do any other... Eventually our aerospace industry will also be exported.

Then what?


23 posted on 11/02/2007 5:41:52 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
China recently announced, they are forming a national aerospace project to compete with Airbus and Boeing.

They’ll do it.

We of course will do nothing to protect that industry anymore than we do any other... Eventually our aerospace industry will also be exported.

China makes an announcement and you already have Boeing closing it's doors unless the US government starts dictating who buys what and for how much. You must be new here. Are you a union member by any chance?

24 posted on 11/02/2007 5:44:32 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Al Gore, the Jessie Jackson of weather.)
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To: DungeonMaster

What dog do you have in the globalization hunt?

Do you work at Walmart?


25 posted on 11/02/2007 5:45:51 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: Hydroshock

How?


26 posted on 11/02/2007 5:47:52 AM PDT by njrep
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It turns out I am working for a rather important 787 contractor.


27 posted on 11/02/2007 5:47:55 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Al Gore, the Jessie Jackson of weather.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We are on pace to export 1.16 trillion dollars worth of goods and services this year.


28 posted on 11/02/2007 5:49:05 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We’ve squandered our entire industrial base.

What have we got to export anymore?

Just a little over $1 trillion last year. Hardly worth counting. LOL!

U.S. Exports to World (Total)
from 2002 to 2006
By 5-digit End-Use Code

(In thousands of dollars)

Additional information

End-Use Code Value 2002 Value 2003 Value 2004 Value 2005 Value 2006
(00000) Wheat 3,771,920 4,002,455 5,191,779 4,416,027 4,277,103
(00010) Rice 832,936 1,077,760 1,223,738 1,337,714 1,355,253
(00100) Soybeans 5,806,179 8,047,048 6,894,715 6,626,555 7,275,892
(00110) Oilseeds, food oils 1,317,380 1,419,363 1,273,706 1,190,935 1,317,680
(00200) Corn 5,784,028 5,750,589 6,926,461 5,824,420 8,269,286
(00210) Sorghum, barley, oats 674,758 677,489 611,091 628,355 685,877
(00220) Animal feeds, n.e.c. 3,298,763 3,297,751 3,115,922 3,387,722 3,804,049
(00300) Meat, poultry, etc. 7,002,732 7,873,236 5,671,895 7,206,280 7,862,701
(00310) Dairy products and eggs 714,816 744,458 1,167,111 1,299,418 1,491,898
(00320) Fruits, frozen juices 4,038,150 4,295,114 4,533,462 4,996,914 5,561,085
(00330) Vegetables 2,900,539 2,965,801 3,189,490 3,509,842 3,846,197
(00340) Nuts 1,657,332 1,891,211 2,365,554 3,043,642 3,227,156
(00350) Bakery products 2,020,889 2,255,755 2,467,241 2,696,155 3,003,394
(00360) Other foods 4,482,548 4,906,768 5,340,365 5,872,533 6,584,793
(00370) Wine and related products 726,766 817,565 984,623 912,592 1,093,913
(01000) Fish and shellfish 3,197,235 3,363,283 3,823,237 4,207,720 4,350,247
(01010) Alcoholic beverages, excluding wine 627,135 681,029 777,286 821,174 958,040
(01020) Nonagricultural foods, etc. 761,472 959,336 1,011,988 977,358 1,044,079
(10000) Cotton, raw 2,066,878 3,388,982 4,279,556 3,933,122 4,514,984
(10100) Tobacco, unmanufactured 1,058,963 1,025,809 1,041,246 983,722 1,133,905
(10120) Hides and skins 1,751,470 1,793,603 1,757,782 1,787,883 2,054,917
(10130) Agric. industry-unmanufactured 1,173,376 1,255,510 1,468,907 1,401,808 1,575,829
(10140) Agric. farming-unmanufactured 1,544,415 1,731,381 1,610,260 1,833,043 1,849,933
(10150) Agriculture-manufactured, other 1,617,726 1,377,403 1,510,523 1,651,371 1,734,142
(11010) Metallurgical grade coal 1,024,080 1,014,289 1,760,238 2,385,524 2,559,063
(11020) Coal and fuels, other 898,318 788,371 1,206,042 1,329,221 1,331,295
(11100) Crude oil 87,556 128,282 308,194 551,652 567,008
(11110) Fuel oil 2,583,998 3,117,433 4,353,770 6,932,607 12,070,290
(11120) Petroleum products, other 6,978,589 8,633,021 11,583,088 14,104,621 17,347,478
(11130) Natural gas liquids 687,884 814,265 836,838 1,075,494 1,625,140
(11200) Gas-natural 995,442 1,399,765 2,125,663 3,109,833 2,243,303
(11300) Nuclear fuel materials 1,510,512 1,570,651 1,631,283 1,619,190 1,827,438
(11400) Electric energy 303,047 755,696 828,855 1,046,509 1,051,985
(12000) Steelmaking materials 1,863,503 2,607,012 4,014,104 5,991,623 6,838,801
(12100) Iron and steel mill products 3,219,083 4,176,506 5,208,393 6,917,987 7,283,742
(12110) Iron and steel products, other 2,768,597 2,905,047 3,636,622 4,351,229 5,155,405
(12200) Aluminum and alumina 2,947,824 3,032,119 3,992,337 5,191,121 7,292,147
(12210) Copper 1,112,520 1,510,815 2,002,919 2,356,484 4,699,934
(12260) Nonmonetary gold 3,356,634 4,790,354 4,449,217 5,548,806 8,755,920
(12270) Precious metals, other 2,560,780 2,144,607 2,758,099 3,175,711 7,041,621
(12290) Nonferrous metals, other 2,148,428 2,464,242 3,053,412 4,523,315 6,609,065
(12300) Finished metal shapes 8,728,448 8,948,222 9,964,894 11,405,809 13,932,951
(12420) Pulpwood and woodpulp 4,051,462 4,259,100 4,696,567 5,272,294 5,903,241
(12430) Newsprint 8,160,275 8,554,129 9,274,785 9,862,581 10,556,635
(12500) Plastic materials 14,104,243 15,407,108 21,656,550 24,793,298 27,873,376
(12510) Chemicals-fertilizers 3,924,528 4,105,064 4,744,018 5,197,329 5,280,861
(12530) Chemicals-inorganic 3,929,179 3,930,315 4,423,922 5,880,332 6,663,746
(12540) Chemicals-organic 14,631,857 17,633,336 22,187,353 23,377,062 26,971,487
(12550) Chemicals-other 13,238,295 14,443,025 15,609,108 16,721,139 18,521,381
(12600) Cotton fiber cloth 2,728,651 2,788,335 3,264,766 3,232,897 3,132,042
(12620) Manmade cloth 4,894,813 5,048,515 5,550,833 5,686,350 5,765,167
(12630) Hair, waste materials 429,684 447,027 493,439 483,543 552,150
(12640) Finished textile supplies 2,248,350 2,196,564 2,321,442 2,377,417 2,541,374
(12650) Leather and furs 840,316 866,753 1,193,579 1,095,540 1,051,998
(12700) Synthetic rubber-primary 1,675,484 1,852,549 2,218,021 2,694,877 3,185,546
(12720) Nonmetallic minerals 416,415 427,349 488,635 488,854 605,994
(12750) Industrial rubber products 2,190,650 2,199,254 2,452,514 2,585,845 2,923,854
(12760) Mineral supplies-manufactured 3,093,482 3,307,186 3,670,944 3,751,497 4,502,639
(12765) Tapes, audio and visual 1,203,833 1,346,509 1,620,300 2,014,146 1,795,704
(12770) Other industrial supplies 14,477,266 15,049,554 13,757,853 14,793,038 16,363,223
(13100) Logs and lumber 3,568,646 3,675,962 4,213,673 4,332,968 4,593,107
(13110) Wood supplies, manufactured 875,807 911,252 1,028,197 1,074,196 1,220,776
(13200) Glass-plate, sheet, etc. 977,598 979,685 1,088,950 1,141,029 1,278,636
(13210) Shingles, molding, wallboard 1,891,071 1,961,770 2,284,145 2,637,272 3,016,416
(13220) Nontextile floor tiles 297,270 300,613 337,797 377,329 414,304
(20000) Generators, accessories 6,171,391 6,286,538 7,028,809 7,613,908 9,464,756
(20005) Electric apparatus 21,373,353 21,158,082 24,231,365 25,674,197 29,748,335
(21000) Drilling & oilfield equipment 6,562,205 6,066,973 6,869,681 8,153,668 10,778,601
(21010) Specialized mining 384,423 419,075 544,473 634,938 838,010
(21030) Excavating machinery 4,986,166 5,284,702 6,657,603 8,812,827 9,866,450
(21040) Nonfarm tractors and parts 960,239 1,063,017 1,439,904 1,382,445 1,858,428
(21100) Industrial engines 11,601,418 11,690,670 13,511,204 14,934,258 15,953,605
(21110) Food, tobacco machinery 1,732,148 1,688,991 1,860,182 2,064,865 2,192,826
(21120) Metalworking machine tools 5,174,725 5,252,726 7,075,695 7,663,288 9,490,359
(21130) Textile, sewing machines 1,059,214 1,020,197 1,134,193 1,247,851 1,274,629
(21140) Wood, glass, plastic 2,597,190 2,503,246 3,367,352 3,645,557 3,628,566
(21150) Pulp and paper machinery 2,278,780 2,372,552 2,566,827 2,718,324 2,850,457
(21160) Measuring, testing, control instruments 13,218,013 13,936,101 16,927,323 16,720,633 19,119,448
(21170) Materials handling equipment 4,488,470 4,655,814 5,984,009 8,162,312 9,903,852
(21180) Industrial machines, other 21,727,003 21,718,029 26,971,265 28,295,944 32,709,273
(21190) Photo, service industry machinery 5,422,145 5,714,167 6,553,936 7,492,107 8,178,549
(21200) Agricultural machinery, equipment 3,526,203 3,793,910 4,422,448 5,144,124 5,308,940
(21300) Computers 9,190,115 8,664,470 9,198,120 10,206,187 11,444,607
(21301) Computer accessories 29,362,295 31,260,248 33,607,204 35,330,167 36,087,221
(21320) Semiconductors 42,234,579 46,137,440 48,050,388 47,221,556 52,383,482
(21400) Telecommunications equipment 22,207,691 20,743,162 24,543,091 25,666,771 28,911,061
(21500) Business machines and equipment 2,023,646 1,927,170 2,110,291 2,335,954 2,704,205
(21600) Laboratory testing instruments 4,824,079 5,118,842 6,093,197 6,665,275 7,279,594
(21610) Medicinal equipment 14,481,033 15,742,536 17,852,664 20,364,358 22,664,867
(22000) Civilian aircraft 26,676,656 23,305,357 22,917,114 29,332,618 40,714,914
(22010) Parts-civilian aircraft 12,222,736 12,134,464 13,217,079 15,305,904 17,373,828
(22020) Engines-civilian aircraft 11,584,658 11,338,959 13,840,691 16,145,914 16,947,535
(22100) Railway transportation equipment 1,245,275 1,641,902 1,856,082 2,345,207 2,938,227
(22200) Vessels, excluding scrap 204,471 67,122 40,953 64,957 51,701
(22210) Commercial vessels, other 179,292 138,968 207,814 230,358 222,269
(22220) Marine engines, parts 758,992 793,606 740,348 976,964 1,127,802
(22300) Spacecraft, excluding military 36,932 37,138 53,632 37,955 26,894
(30000) Passenger cars, new and used 20,552,414 22,102,841 24,609,325 30,492,691 34,530,937
(30100) Trucks, buses and special purpose vehicles 8,363,362 10,244,379 11,928,396 13,477,345 15,090,202
(30200) Engines and engine parts (carburetors, pistons, ri 10,112,579 10,112,654 10,754,788 11,324,368 11,924,358
(30210) Bodies and chassis for passenger cars 138,831 185,673 148,197 58,449 58,962
(30220) Automotive tires and tubes 1,909,086 1,819,338 2,124,051 2,403,281 2,479,500
(30230) Other parts and accessories of vehicles 37,866,139 36,220,655 39,727,480 40,916,620 43,088,027
(40000) Apparel, household goods - textile 6,305,462 5,935,708 5,389,846 5,311,955 5,183,748
(40030) Apparel,household goods-nontextile 1,307,645 1,349,863 1,433,964 1,672,191 1,835,403
(40050) Sports apparel and gear 445,492 421,225 436,046 485,324 588,006
(40100) Pharmaceutical preparations 17,347,840 20,529,484 25,431,506 27,618,757 30,789,492
(40110) Books, printed matter 3,969,325 4,175,252 4,397,917 4,820,801 5,192,672
(40120) Toiletries and cosmetics 4,139,641 4,580,874 5,260,323 5,975,099 6,754,315
(40130) Tobacco, manufactured 1,962,035 1,881,706 1,599,295 1,340,630 1,362,642
(40140) Writing and art supplies 4,609,284 4,695,044 5,062,591 5,623,401 5,827,807
(41000) Furniture, household goods, etc. 2,122,958 2,415,749 2,723,936 2,885,663 3,204,067
(41010) Glassware, chinaware 450,822 348,977 393,530 405,241 432,492
(41020) Cookware, cutlery, tools 695,857 687,921 733,034 771,945 869,659
(41030) Household appliances 4,536,883 4,830,195 5,224,404 6,050,859 6,650,584
(41040) Rugs 693,290 693,005 789,475 906,070 1,003,387
(41050) Other household goods 8,444,489 9,389,945 10,754,075 12,428,236 14,073,095
(41110) Pleasure boats and motors 1,086,943 1,368,396 1,911,421 2,480,770 2,778,543
(41120) Toys/games/sporting goods 5,459,446 5,692,490 6,316,574 7,564,206 9,027,618
(41140) Musical instruments 1,032,717 862,781 1,056,377 1,058,999 1,067,154
(41200) TV's, VCR's, etc. 3,955,119 3,382,301 3,602,070 3,639,449 3,872,073
(41210) Stereo equipment, etc. 1,541,870 1,560,706 1,712,822 2,213,713 2,461,393
(41220) Records, tapes, and disks 3,221,800 3,191,920 3,386,401 3,640,005 3,642,747
(41300) Numismatic coins 56,008 63,051 54,118 67,805 154,448
(41310) Jewelry, etc 2,968,325 3,049,472 3,867,696 4,727,493 6,143,415
(41320) Artwork, antiques, stamps, etc. 2,901,776 3,036,051 3,877,752 4,778,136 5,953,003
(42000) Nursery stock, etc. 269,747 289,308 313,536 341,782 387,790
(42100) Gem diamonds 4,834,043 5,476,603 7,346,005 8,906,873 9,987,222
(50000) Military aircraft, complete 1,672,201 2,159,009 2,360,999 2,417,217 4,464,598
(50010) Aircraft launching gear, parachutes, etc. 89,950 116,027 214,592 305,808 344,791
(50020) Engines and turbines for military aircraft 1,836,533 1,320,834 1,260,987 1,566,406 1,643,565
(50030) Military trucks, armored vehicles, etc. 722,039 635,004 745,331 920,345 844,889
(50040) Military ships and boats 2,060 1,000 0 0 5,170
(50050) Tanks, artillery, missiles, rockets, guns and ammu 1,929,437 1,615,936 2,067,159 2,037,040 2,714,343
(50060) Military apparel and footwear 812,385 844,928 506,395 668,594 693,123
(50070) Parts for military-type goods 4,639,359 4,816,374 4,728,834 4,919,362 5,918,013
(60000) Minimum value shipments 14,635,601 15,043,576 16,781,625 18,800,866 19,745,847
(60010) Miscellaneous domestic exports and special transac 6,514,038 5,858,199 5,737,754 5,328,568 5,241,316
(60040) Undocumented exports to Canada 0 0 0 0 3,250,666
TOTAL 693,103,192 724,770,983 818,774,859 905,977,633 1,037,142,973

29 posted on 11/02/2007 5:50:05 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Thus a weak dollar is GOOD for our economy.

Awesome! I can't wait until it's worth 2 cents to the Canadian dollar! I am so jealous of Zimbabwe!

Seriously, you Buchanan-haters should just avoid his threads rather than feel obligated to post nonsense to contradict him.

30 posted on 11/02/2007 5:52:20 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: DungeonMaster

For now you work at a rather important 787 contractor. OK that’s cool. Thanks for helping America compete.

(Assuming it’s an American contractor?)

But stop defending the morons who export jobs to the lowest bidder.

I am a programmer.

I’ve seen a (lot) of co-workers walk out, carrying their things in a box. For 10 years now.

Wave, after wave of layoffs. Those jobs are gone - outsourced. Those talented former tech geniuses, now doing whatever they can find.

Forever.

It’s happening.

Open your eyes.


31 posted on 11/02/2007 5:52:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Yeah, about like martin luther did. Naive drivel pandering to people's naivete.

Soon, we'll both know who's naive.

32 posted on 11/02/2007 5:54:03 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Holy Bible AND the Constitution. Words mean things.)
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To: Thorin

Looked at US export numbers lately? Thought not.
How about that Balance of trade deficit Pat always had a hard on about? Thought not.


33 posted on 11/02/2007 5:54:04 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Thorin

One Euro cost about $.93 when George W. Bush took office, early in the Clinton Recession.

Pat Buchanan says it was $.83.

What’s that word for intentional distortion of the truth?

Oh yeah: “LYING”

What other lies does he tell in this article?


34 posted on 11/02/2007 5:55:10 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Do you work for CITIC?

(Seriously)


35 posted on 11/02/2007 5:55:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Fascinating data. Thanks.


36 posted on 11/02/2007 5:55:35 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Open your eyes.

Or ears. All I have to do is listen to the names and accents of the Chineese and indians that I'm surrounded by. What were you doing during 911? I was here then too and when the economy sank, guess who got sent home by the barge load. My company needs labor and this country only graduates 50ish thousand engineers/year. It is HR's job to get the cheapest smartest engineers they can and for the moment they need to look overseas for some of them. By the way, boeing insisted on 15 percent outsourced engineering as a ticket to even get on this project. Why do you suppose that is? 1, to keep costs down. 2, to sell lots of $150,000,000 airplanes overseas.

37 posted on 11/02/2007 5:57:42 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Al Gore, the Jessie Jackson of weather.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Buchanan is a total moron, again. A weak dollar makes imports expensive and our exports cheaper. It helps our domestic economy and helps wean us off our addiction to cheap imported goods. Thus a weak dollar is GOOD for our economy. A strong dollar, on the other hand does nothing but gratify the egos of Know Nothing dinosaurs like Buchanan.

Spoken like a true open borders zealot.

38 posted on 11/02/2007 5:58:19 AM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Does PJB snore?

(Seriously)

39 posted on 11/02/2007 5:58:37 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Just remember, no matter how bad the economy gets, it's always better than it ever was!!! YAY!!!

(At least that's the enduring attitude of some of the loons around here.)

40 posted on 11/02/2007 6:02:14 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Perdogg
I guess Pat”SS” Buchanan blames the joooos for this one.

Seems to me like you are the one obsessed with Nazis and "joooos."

41 posted on 11/02/2007 6:02:46 AM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: DungeonMaster

Guess what?

The portion of the plane engineering and production which is outsourced, will slowly increase.

Eventually those foreign engineers will end up working for some aerospace firm in Shanghai or Beijing. Funded by the Chinese government. Working with American designs.

And you’ll be competing with China. At a 100 to 1 price disadvantage.

Wonder if you’ll be eager to defend the “free market” then...

We are truly in a race to the bottom.

“Free market” means we’ll keep losing jobs and industries, until working Americans make no more for our efforts, than the cheapest, most corrupt major foreign competitors pay their own people.

Then we’ll all be slaves.

Wonderful.


42 posted on 11/02/2007 6:05:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: cbkaty
They adjust anyway, with no effort on our part, thru the exchange rate mechanism. The problem with trying to match the taxes imposed by other countries is that they don't sell the same thing we do, so you can't really do it, and they don't impose them evenly on everything they sell. What causes the inefficiencies is monkeying with the relative prices. If you impose a 10% tax on everything, for example, it would be just the same as letting the exchange rate adjust by 10%, which is no big deal. But if you only tax certain things 10%, then you've created an inefficiency. So matching their self-imposed inefficiencies is not really in our best interest. It's smarter to simply let the market adjust. Of course, it takes a lot of time, but a slow adjustment may be more efficient than a fast one. Let the market decide that, too.
43 posted on 11/02/2007 6:06:15 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Thorin

bookmark


44 posted on 11/02/2007 6:08:20 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (I've been waiting since 11/04/79 to do something about Iran.)
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To: Kozak
How about that Balance of trade deficit Pat always had a hard on about? Thought not.

Have you looked at the capital account surplus lately? Any thoughts on that?

45 posted on 11/02/2007 6:09:12 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov; Junior_G; period end of story; gogogodzilla; Hydroshock; durasell; Thorin
An older article but gives the simplest explanation of the trade offs between strong and weak dollars.

A Dinocon Isolationists, like Buchanan and his clique, should be ecstatic about the weak dollar. A weak dollar hurts our foreign competitors, it helps the most efficient parts of our economy grow market share and it helps wean US Consumers off our addiction to cheap imported goods.

http://gbr.pepperdine.edu/041/devaluation.html

46 posted on 11/02/2007 6:11:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Look for, the union label, when you are buying that coat, dress or shoes.

You sound just like my union thug dad.

47 posted on 11/02/2007 6:12:56 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Al Gore, the Jessie Jackson of weather.)
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To: DungeonMaster

I have never been a union member.

But if Republicans don’t stop blindly supporting the systematic dismemberment of our national productive infrastructure under the mantle of “free trade”, it won’t matter.

Because middle Americans, p*ssed off at the sell-out, will elect Democrats.

Who will stop it.

Sure, they’ll foul up everything else, and then we’ll really be in a pickle — but selling American jobs to the lowest international bidder is hardly a winning election strategy for the GOP.

Just look at the last elections.


48 posted on 11/02/2007 6:17:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
But if Republicans don’t stop blindly supporting the systematic dismemberment of our national productive infrastructure

Post #29. Over $1 trillion in exports. Some dismemberment. LOL!

49 posted on 11/02/2007 6:24:53 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Are you referring to the “Pizza Manufacturing”?

Or the frozen hamburger shipping?...


50 posted on 11/02/2007 6:25:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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