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Huckabee: I've Got The "Right" Experience
CBS News ^ | 11/2/2007 | Brian Goldsmith

Posted on 11/02/2007 6:19:48 PM PDT by dano1

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Where does Huckabee really stand on the issue of illegal immigration? At first glance of all the chatter, some of the news stories, and the editorials out there floating around, one would believe that Huckabee is, not only soft on illegal immigration, but actually, farther to the left of the issue than our current President. After reading all of the stories out there and listening to the facts in the case against Huckabee, I was beginning to have some serious doubts about the sincerity of this candidate myself, who is admittedly a strong Huckabee supporter.

However, upon doing a little research on this particular issue I discovered that, as usual, there is more than one side to the story. Evidently, the truth of the matter goes a little more like this: Huckabee opposes illegal immigration, supports sealing the border, and opposes amnesty. In a perfect world that would be enough, but this is no perfect world as we all know. The fact of the matter is that there are millions of illegals in this country already, and there is a constant flow of them across our borders each and every day. Another fact, Huckabee supports the deportation of illegal immigrants, but he believes that the process should be a better one.

Case in point is the 119 illegals deported in an Arkansas raid of a plant in 2005, in which officials, without having properly done their homework, proceeded to deport the illegals leaving their children behind here in the states to be a burden to our already overloaded system.

Also, according to the Arkansas State Constitution, children of all ages, whether legal or illegal are entitled to an education. Huckabee following the logic of the state's Constitution, supported allowing children of the illegals to attend Arkansas colleges at in-state rates. Bear in mind these are not individuals who came here illegally, but rather the offspring of those individuals. Holding said offspring responsible for the sins of the parents is like holding anyone else responsible for some crime committed by their forefathers. This is a preposterous notion, a dangerous road, and completely inconsistent with the ideology of compassionate conservatism.

Now, before anyone goes hysterical here, let me point out that we are not suggesting that illegals, who are definately in violation of the law, be given any form of amnesty, nor is there any promotion of the idea of an open border here. However, as in any crime or act of wrongdoing their are always innocents involved who may become collateral damage. Let's be clear there should be a secure border between the U.S. and its bordering nations, there should be no amnesty, and there should always be consequences for breaking the law, but we must remember to follow the ideology of compassionate conservatism as well. After all our system is a system of checks and balances, and we must not forget that there are two sides to the scales of justice. These are the principles that guide Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee. These are the principles that should guide every American.

Source can be found at http://mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/2005/08/msm-huckabee-right-on-illegal.html

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2005/08/13/opinion/18editorial.txt

41 posted on 11/02/2007 7:26:17 PM PDT by dano1
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To: SoCalPol

Yup. That’s why we need Fred as President and Duncan Hunter as our Defense Secretary.


42 posted on 11/02/2007 7:27:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: eleni121
too bad for you because he is perfect on the issues

You're right, if the issues that are important to you include higher taxes to be used for the greater good, socialism, universal healthcare, global warming, open borders, and social engineering nanny state sheeple control policies. MIKE IS YOUR MAN!


43 posted on 11/02/2007 7:27:40 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: no dems
BTW, does anyone know why he’s never gotten that front tooth fixed? A PR guy told me that that could cost him 4-5 percentage points.

This pic is from February 2005, and his teeth were in need of improvement then. To his credit, this was snow, not dandruff. The thinning hair, sallow skin and funny scared rat look is common after gastric bypass surgery, but we know that Huck lost his weight from diet and exercise.

The image “http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/52256271.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE30AAD2431E4088AFA40A659CEC4C8CB6” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

44 posted on 11/02/2007 7:29:42 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: dano1

“Critics in Arkansas contend Huckabee worked with some of the state’s most prominent and politically powerful businesses to draw illegal immigrants to the state to accept low-paying jobs.”

—”Mexican consulate deal dogs Huckabee campaign” Jerome Corsi, 10/31/2007


45 posted on 11/02/2007 7:29:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Lancey Howard
A real man would have said, "It's nice that a co-equal branch of government, the judiciary, wants more spending but I don't believe that mandating spending is part of the court's job description and so I therefore intend to ignore the Supreme Court."

Has anyone done such a daring thing and gotten away with it since Andrew Jackson in Cherokee Nation v. Georgia? When the judiciary hands down a decision, we treat it with as much fear and awe as a divine revelation. The judiciary clearly merits its standing as greatest among the equal branches of government at least in terms of long-term policymaking. A consistent train of conservatives in the White House and the Senate, however, can mold even the most stubbornly liberal judiciary into a power that works for us sometimes.

46 posted on 11/02/2007 7:30:22 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

You seem to know it all on Huck...I don’t think so...he has said that he want to essentally do away with the IRS - his point one:

I support the FairTax.

As Governor of Arkansas, I cut taxes and fees almost 100 times, saving the taxpayers almost $380 million. I left a surplus of nearly $850 million, which I urged should go back to the people.

Our massive deficit is not due to Americans’ being under-taxed, but to the government’s over-spending.

To control spending, I believe the President should have the line-item veto.

I believe in free trade, but it has to be fair trade.
Globalization, done right, done fairly, can be the equivalent of a big pay raise by allowing us to buy things more cheaply.


47 posted on 11/02/2007 7:32:00 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"“Critics in Arkansas contend ..."

Can someone be Governor for 10 years and not have any critics?

48 posted on 11/02/2007 7:33:26 PM PDT by dano1
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To: eleni121
too bad for you because he is perfect on the issues

On Wednesday evening during a radio interview he stated he intended to pus for federal laws prohibiting smoking in public places. Didn't think the States were good enough to protect "the peoples' right to clean air." So much for "states being the laboratories of democracy." I didn't see this plan on his website, btw.

49 posted on 11/02/2007 7:34:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: eleni121

Forget it, folks. This one is a bot for Huckster. It just repeats talking points from Huckster’s website.


50 posted on 11/02/2007 7:34:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: AuntB; pissant; OB1kNOb; Politicalmom; SoConPubbie; Esther Ruth; pandoraou812; gidget7; 383rr; ...
We have some misguided FReepers on this thread. They need your help and an intervention.

Retire the liberal tax raising, open border, algore loving, nanny state Huckster

The liberal MSM must really think Social Conservatives are stupid. They keep pitching and pimping the Huckster hoping somebody will buy.

To be added please FReepmail me or OB1KNOB.

51 posted on 11/02/2007 7:35:04 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: dano1

Interesting that that was one article about your boy that you didn’t post. Namely because Huckster has some ethics issues:

“(L)long-time border-security activist Joe McCutchen, told WND that Freedom of Information Act documents he obtained show unusual business practices and possible improprieties in a 2006 Huckabee decision to attract a Mexican consulate to Little Rock.

Space in an Arkansas government facility was leased for $1 a year to the Mexican government to establish the Mexican consulate until a permanent Mexican consulate facility could be built, at the expense of Arkansas citizens and corporations.

McCutchen charges that Huckabee made the deal with Mexico in order to attract illegal immigrants into the state to work in politically connected Arkansas businesses seeking to exploit low-cost immigrant workers.

“Huckabee is an open borders multi-culturalist who put the will and needs of Arkansas corporations before the needs of Arkansas citizens and taxpayers,” McCutchen charged.


52 posted on 11/02/2007 7:37:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: dufekin
Has anyone done such a daring thing and gotten away with it since Andrew Jackson in Cherokee Nation v. Georgia?

Point taken. Still, it would be nice for a real man to come along and draw a line in the sand. Clearly, Huckabee is not that man. He's just another hack who gladly bends over and grabs his ankles for a sad pack of men in black.

(I declaya, theysa too much rhymin' goin' on out theya!")

53 posted on 11/02/2007 7:38:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: eleni121

Well, golly gee willikers, if he is going to try to fool fiscal conservatives with campaign promises that he a. Doesn’t believe in and b. has no chance in Hell of actually passing why stop there?

Forget the Fair Tax. If he is going to make stuff up, he should at least be original. How about if you elect Mike, you will never pay any taxes of any kind ever????!!!!


54 posted on 11/02/2007 7:45:32 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: dano1
Great news about Huckabee here
55 posted on 11/02/2007 7:46:49 PM PDT by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-national sovereignty, pro-strong national defense, PRO-troops)
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To: Et in Arcadia Ego

They are pushing Huckster as a way to split off the ignorant social conservatives who havent done their homework from the real conservative (hint: Thompson), and to help Rudy.
(Huckster’s main competition for votes is Thompson and Romney).


56 posted on 11/02/2007 7:50:46 PM PDT by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: WOSG; dano1

That’s great. I like how you took a page out of dano’s book.

Give WOSG some props dano.


57 posted on 11/02/2007 7:53:06 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The polls are clear. In October, as Huckster rose, Fred receded. Romney has been doing well lately in polls.

Huckabee’s boomlet is partly about the fact that Thompson’s entry into the race didnt live up to the hype, and some of Fred’s supporters have gone to the Huckster.


58 posted on 11/02/2007 7:54:29 PM PDT by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

LOL


59 posted on 11/02/2007 7:54:59 PM PDT by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: eleni121

“Hey-—if the left can have their slicks why can’t we?”

I just dont want to be selling the same ol’ snake oil as the leftist Democrats.

Hucksters wants CO2 caps. Anti-energy, anti-capitalist, anti-growth... bad idea.

I dont want him selling it to us as “environmental stewardship” or some other nonesense.


60 posted on 11/02/2007 7:56:48 PM PDT by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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