Posted on 11/02/2007 6:19:48 PM PDT by dano1
Immigration bill un-Christian, anti-life, governor says
Gov. Mike Huckabee Thursday denounced a bill by Sen. Jim Holt that would deny state benefits to illegal immigrants....
He shepherded greater tax hikes into law than any governor in Arkansas history.... From time to time Huckabee has betrayed some of the progressive compassion that marked the old liberal camp of the Republican Party....
Style over substance.
Um, no. Huckster is taking from Romney, not Fred. Fred supporters know a phony when they see one. That’s why they steer clear of Precious and Senor Huckster.
Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention
Thursday, Jun 30, 2005
By Wesley Brown Arkansas News Bureau
LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.
"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.
Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.
About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.
Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.
He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation.
"Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you (criminal invader illegal aliens)"
Mike is a nice guy, so all of us on FR want to give him the benefit of the doubt. We went back and looked at his record for any resemblance to a tax cutting fiscal conservative. Unfortunately, in 10 years as Governor, there is no mention of the words fair or taxes in the same sentence with Huck.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/01/a_report_on_mike_huckabees_fis.php
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Presidential White Paper #1
Is Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee a Pro-Growth, Economic Conservative?
Taxes
The Club for Growth is committed to lower taxes across the board. Lower taxes on work, savings, and investments lead to greater levels of these activities, thus encouraging greater economic growth.
Governor Huckabee touts himself as an economic conservative, writing in his biography that he “pushed through the Arkansas legislature the first major, broad-based tax cuts in state history” and “led efforts to establish a Property Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights” early on as governor (Arkansas Times 09/22/05), but he only offers a small piece of the picture. It is true that Governor Huckabee fought for an $80 million tax cut package in 1997 that was passed by the Arkansas legislature (Cato Policy Analysis No. 315, 09/03/98); cut the state capital gains tax in 1999 (The Commercial Appeal 02/29/99); and passed the Property Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights in the same year, limiting the increase in property taxes to 10% a year for individuals and 5% per taxing unit (AP 03/16/99). However, his record over the rest of his ten-year tenure tells a starkly different story.
Immediately upon taking office, Governor Huckabee signed a sales tax hike in 1996 to fund the Games and Fishing Commission and the Department of Parks and Tourism (Cato Policy Analysis No. 315, 09/03/98).
He supported an internet sales tax in 2001 (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07).
He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002 (Arkansas News Bureau 08/30/02).
He signed bills raising taxes on gasoline (1999), cigarettes (2003) (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07), and a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001 (Arkansas New Bureau 03/01/01).
He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements (Arkansas News Bureau 12/05/02).
He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003 (Arkansas News Bureau 11/21/03).
In 2004, he allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law (The Gurdon Times 03/02/04).
By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute. While he is on record supporting making the Bush tax cuts permanent, he joined Democrats in criticizing the Republican Party for tilting its tax policies “toward the people at the top end of the economic scale” (Washington Examiner 09/13/06), even though objective evidence demonstrates that the Bush tax cuts have actually shifted the tax burden to higher income taxpayers.
Finally, Governor Huckabee opposed further tax cuts at a 2005 gathering of Iowa conservatives (AP 09/17/05). On January 28, 2007, Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President, first on Meet the Press and then at the National Review Conservative Summit. The evidence suggests that his commitment to protecting taxpayers evidenced in his early gubernatorial years may be a thing of the past.
Spending
The Club for Growth is committed to reducing government spending. Less spending enhances economic growth by enabling lower taxes and diminishing the economically inefficient political allocation of resources.
Under Governor Huckabee’s watch, state spending increased a whopping 65.3% from 1996 to 2004, three times the rate of inflation (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07). The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure (Arkansas Leader 04/15/06), and the state’s general obligation debt shot up by almost $1 billion, according to Americans for Tax Reform. The massive increase in government spending is due in part to the number of new programs and expansion of already existing programs initiated by Governor Huckabee, including ARKids First, a multimillion-dollar government program to provide health coverage for thousands of Arkansas’ children (Arkansas News Bureau 04/13/06).
These large increases in government borrowing and spending significantly impede economic growth.
GO FRED GO!
FredHeads seem to have trouble reading poll results clearly. If Fred is doing so well, how come Romney is ahead of Fred in South Carolina RCP poll averages?
Mitt Romney is the real thing: Real executive experience, real fiscal conservative credentials, private sector experience and accomplishments, pro-family, pro-life, articulate, energetic, well-organized campaign and highly capable.
Sure you do. It’s to bad your experience sucks.
I’m waiting for Fred to feel like it. Honestly, I dont think he really wants it bad enough to do the gut-wrenching campaign things needed 24/7 for the next 380 days to win.
“He just needs some spinach first.”
Yup. either he will or he wont.
No matter. I am looking forward to either Fred or Mitt kicking Hillary’s campaign to the curb in Nov 2008 ... She’s a fragile hollow screeching crone and even the lefties have figured it out, to their horror:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/2/12255/5332
Some nice irony there. The same cocky people who were on this forum a few months ago smirking about how anyone who questioned FDT's status as Ronald Reagan Reincarnated must "fear the Fred" now appear to be genuinely TERRIFIED of the Huckster.
His rise in the polls goes against their shared vision with the MSM that the "only" viable candidates are Fred, Rudy, and Mitt. How dare we the people choose the candidate instead of them dictating the choices! You have to wonder why they're so alarmed at Huckabee if he "can't win" the nomination. You don't see me sounding the alarms at the prospect of a John Cox Presidency.
Hence, all the nasty hit pieces on FR in the last couple of days. They'd have believe the Huckster holds "liberal" views on everything but "abortion and guns" (yeah, I can just see liberals working their butt off to ban gay marriage, win in Iraq, abolish the IRS, etc.) and that Huckabee was a horrible Clintonite RINO governor. A quick search engine check on FR will show Huckabee was ENORMOUSLY popular with freepers back when he was actually IN office, supposedly doing all these evil "liberal, nanny-state, tax-hike" things. (I guess standing up to the teachers unions and cutting taxes by $380 million are now "liberal" policies)
They'd have us believe Huckabee "destroyed" the GOP in Arkansas -- nevermind the fact Arkansas has always been a one-party RAT state since reconstruction and the Huckster is one of only three GOP governors elected since then. Saying he "destroyed" the GOP in Arkansas is like saying Bush caused the unicorn population in the U.S. to go extinct. You can't destory something that didn't exist in the first place (perhaps they are confusing the Huckster with an actual RINO like George Ryan, who single-handily wiped out the ILGOP after the state had spent DECADES as a healthy two-party competitive state)
Besides, if Huckabee is such an awful RINO, why don't tell us how THEIR guy is soooooo much "better" on key conservative issues like abortion, border security, taxes, and the war on terror. Go ahead, I'm all ears.
Back in 2005, Huckabee was called "the freeper governor" and hailed as a conservative hero on this forum for mocking the liberals "tax the rich" policies by naming the "tax me more" in Arkansas. Huckabee was personally invited TWICE by the owner of this very forum to serve our as special guest of honor at the presidential inauguration, and received an outpouring of allocates and standing ovations from freepers. Imagine how members would have reacted if a real "RINO governor" showed up at our event like Christie Todd Whitman or Arnold Schwarzenegger , let alone the outrage from the rank and file members of this forum if the owner of the website personally invited them as the keynote "attraction".
The freepers trashing Huckabee as an evil RINO are trying to rewrite history worse than Michael Moore's fictional film about the NRA.
Here's the REAL Huckabee's "record" in office: 
Governor Mike Huckabee (left) and the Capitol Offense Band, hosts of the The FreeRepublic.com Inaugural Ball, a rousing success for 61 million Americans in 2005.
Arkansas - Freeper Governor Mike Huckabee reelected
Freeper Governor Huckabee (R-Arkansas) wins Arkansas Republican primary 85%+
Freeper Governor Huckabee's "Tax Me More Fund" tops $1,000 with $200 donation
” Some nice irony there. The same cocky people who were on this forum a few months ago smirking about how anyone who questioned FDT’s status as Ronald Reagan Reincarnated must “fear the Fred” now appear to be genuinely TERRIFIED of the Huckster.”
Maybe they are. Maybe they should be. Fred’s campaign is in first gear, while Huckster grabs media attention from him. Huck’s rise in the polls is proving very convenient for Rudy Guiliani. I dont think Huckabee has a chance - at best Huckster can draw enough votes away to make Thompson look worse in Iowa, NH, and SC. Maybe even upset Romney in IA.
Either of those will just deliver the nomination to Rudy, as Huckabee doesnt have the broad support to win.
And why not? Just because he’s not a conventional RINO and is solid on life and guns doesnt mean he’s not very flawed. From DREAM Act support to nanny-statism on smoking and CO2 reg, to a tax-and-spend record, the man is too much of a tax-and-spend-and-regulate politician to be considered conservative in a broad sense. He’s not a fiscal or small-govt conservative.
“His rise in the polls goes against their shared vision with the MSM that the “only” viable candidates are Fred, Rudy, and Mitt.”
Ultimately, the only ‘viable’ candidate is the one who can win. But I dont quite see how Huck’s 5th place in national polls and between 2nd and 5th in early state polls translates into getting a majority of delegates. That’s reality - he’s a real long shot.
“You have to wonder why they’re so alarmed at Huckabee if he “can’t win” the nomination.”
my honest answer: I DON’T WANT RUDY TO WIN. Huckster’s rise helps Rudy. Simple as that.
Your points on Huckabee’s friendship to FR is well-taken. We should keep that in mind, but let it not sway us from discerning clearly on his policies.
Yep. Ever since you were caught blantantly lying when you said Huckabee's "only" conservative positions were abortions and guns, you have sought to assure us that all the OTHER conservative views Huckabee holds are just campaign rhetoric. Why stop there? Maybe his views on abortion and guns are "made up" as well!
Why, I bet Huckabee is REALLY pro-abortion. He's just claiming to be pro-life to get elected and if he was truly creative he'd promise to shoot all women who have abortions. Not only that, but the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Mike Huckabee probably personally operates every major abortion clinic in Arkansas! Huckabee probably preforms abortions himself!! I heard the Huckster preformed one on his own daughter! In fact, I think Huckabee was really a woman before and HAD an abortion, then got a sex change!!! Hell, Huckabee probably INVENTED the abortion procedure!
There is not one scrap of evidence for this, but it's a gurantee fact, just like the "fact" that freepers hated Huckabee's liberal policies as Governor, (nevermind that he was THE honored guest and keynote attraction at our biggest event in this forum's history at the time, and you weren't even a member of FR back then)
Huckabee is an evil, evil, evil, left-wing marxist scumbag. Clearly the 85%+ conservative freepers who supported/nominated this guy when he was in Arkansas were fools. Thank goodness the 15% who opposed him in the primary realized what a scumbag he was. The fact that nobody sought to mention it a single time, back when he was actually IN office doing all this evil stuff, is immateral. Lots of RINO governors are worshipped by conservatives when they pass tax-hiking nanny-state stuff. Like, ummm, well we can't think of any. Nevermind.
Your guy is sooooooooooo much better on all the big conservative issues. In fact, he's sooooooo better than nanny-state RINO Huckabee, you don't need to lift a finger to provide any evidence of it. Hell, you don't even have to mention who he is to get him elected, just disrupt this forum and do the Democrats dirty work by using all your time here to trash a conservative Republican governor.
Why is it always a media conspiracy? Regardless of what one thinks of him (and I am not a Huck supporter) he has done very well in the debates, especially considering expectations (which were zero). Thompson on the other hand rode a wave of media coverage for a while and then when he finally announced he began to slip some because he wasn’t meeting expectations. Just MHO.
Taxes
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Is Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee a Pro-Growth, Economic Conservative?
The Club for Growth is committed to lower taxes across the board. Lower taxes on work, savings, and investments lead to greater levels of these activities, thus encouraging greater economic growth.
Governor Huckabee touts himself as an economic conservative, writing in his biography that he “pushed through the Arkansas legislature the first major, broad-based tax cuts in state history” and “led efforts to establish a Property Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights” early on as governor (Arkansas Times 09/22/05), but he only offers a small piece of the picture.
It is true that Governor Huckabee fought for an $80 million tax cut package in 1997 that was passed by the Arkansas legislature (Cato Policy
Analysis No. 315, 09/03/98); cut the state capital gains tax in 1999 (The Commercial Appeal 02/29/99); and passed the Property Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights in the same year, limiting the increase in property taxes to 10% a year for individuals and 5% per taxing unit (AP 03/16/99). However, his record over the rest of his ten-year tenure tells a starkly different story.
Immediately upon taking office, Governor Huckabee signed a sales tax hike in 1996 to fund the Games and Fishing Commission and the Department of Parks and Tourism (Cato Policy Analysis No. 315, 09/03/98).
He supported an internet sales tax in 2001 (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07).
He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002 (Arkansas News Bureau 08/30/02).
He signed bills raising taxes on gasoline (1999), cigarettes (2003) (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07), and a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001 (Arkansas New Bureau 03/01/01).
He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements (Arkansas News Bureau 12/05/02).
He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003 (Arkansas News Bureau 11/21/03).
In 2004, he allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law (The Gurdon Times 03/02/04).
By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute. During Huckabee’s tenure as governor, the average Arkansan’s tax burden increased 47 percent, according to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.
While he is on record supporting making the Bush tax cuts permanent, he joined Democrats in criticizing the Republican Party for tilting its tax policies “toward the people at the top end of the economic scale” (Washington Examiner 09/13/06), even though objective evidence demonstrates that the Bush tax cuts have actually shifted the tax burden to higher income taxpayers.
Finally, Governor Huckabee opposed further tax cuts at a 2005 gathering of Iowa conservatives (AP 09/17/05). On January 28, 2007, Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President, first on Meet the Press and then at the National Review Conservative Summit. The evidence suggests that his commitment to protecting taxpayers evidenced in his early gubernatorial years may be a thing of the past.
Spending
The Club for Growth is committed to reducing government spending. Less spending enhances economic growth by enabling lower taxes and diminishing the economically inefficient political allocation of resources.
Under Governor Huckabee’s watch, state spending increased a whopping 65.3% from 1996 to 2004, three times the rate of inflation (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07).
The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure (Arkansas Leader 04/15/06), and the state’s general obligation debt shot up by almost $1 billion, according to Americans for Tax Reform.
The massive increase in government spending is due in part to the number of new programs and expansion of already existing programs initiated by Governor Huckabee, including ARKids First, a multimillion-dollar government program to provide health coverage for thousands
of Arkansas’ children (Arkansas News Bureau 04/13/06).
These large increases in government borrowing and spending significantly impede economic growth.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/01/a_report_on_mike_huckabees_fis.php
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Immigration
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Fact #1 As Governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee denounced an immigration bill (Arkansas Senate Bill 206) that “would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and would have required state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally.”
(Doug Thompson, “Immigration Bill un-christian..governor says”Arkansas News Bureau 1/28/05)
Fact #2. As Governor, Mike Huckabee offered a proposal to give state funded scholarships and state benefits to illegal aliens.
(Laura Kellams, “Huckabee Plan would give aid to illegal aliens” Arkansas Democrat Gazette 1/12/2005)
Fact #3. Governor Huckabee supported a Bush-backed immigration plan that provides a path to citizenship for some illegal aliens.
(CNN 2008 Election Center, http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/mike.huckabee.html)
Fact #4. Governor Huckabee refuses to sign the “No Amnesty Pledge”.
The Governor is suffering from what is called “amnesty amnesia”. It is a contagious ailment spreading rapidly through the ranks of the Republican presidential candidates.
Watch Huckabee admit to selling out our citizenship to illegal aliens. He thinks it’s not amnesty, but illegal aliens still get the grand prize: citizenship.
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January 28, 2005 AR Gov. Mike Huckabee goes on the attack From this:
[AR] Gov. Mike Huckabee on Thursday heaped criticism upon immigration legislation in the Arkansas Legislature, describing it as “inflammatory . . . race-baiting and demagoguery.”
He also challenged the Christian values of its main sponsor.
Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, “inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not...”
...He singled out [Republican Sens. Jim Holt, one of the bill’s sponsors], who often talks of his strong Christian beliefs, saying, “I drink a different kind of Jesus juice. My faith says don’t make false accusations against somebody.
“In the Bible, it’s called don’t bear false witness.”
In response, Holt said he was hurt by the governor’s questioning his faith.
“I just want to uphold the law and protect the benefits that apply to citizens,” Holt said.
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A lingering controversy over the role former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee played in establishing a Mexican consulate office in Little Rock financed by taxpayers and local businesses continues to follow the Republican presidential candidate’s campaign, even as he enjoys a surge in polls.
Critics in Arkansas contend Huckabee worked with some of the state’s most prominent and politically powerful businesses to draw illegal immigrants to the state to accept low-paying jobs.
Space in an Arkansas government facility was leased for $1 a year to the Mexican government to establish the Mexican consulate until a permanent Mexican consulate facility could be built, at the expense of Arkansas citizens and corporations.
“We wanted people to come to Arkansas and get the proper paper work and do things with a work permit and a visa. It’s so much easier to do that if you have a consulate where people can go to get proper documentation, rather than just accommodating people illegally.” -Huckabee
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Global Warming
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Former Arkansas governor, Mike Huckabee, said he supports a mandatory cap-and-trade system to cut US greenhouse gas emissions, becoming the second Republican presidential candidate to call for a carbon market to address climate change.
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Nanny-stater
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Supports national smoking ban.
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Crime
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In his book From Hope to Higher Ground, he wrote that Three Strikes was an overraction to the permissiveness of the ‘70s:
“In the 1990s, the pendulum swung harshly back in the opposite direction and very popular policies such as “three strikes and you’re out” and “no parole provisions” were adopted.
Being tough on crime is certainly more popular than being soft, but America needs to be careful that in our attempt to stoutly enforce our laws and protect our citizens, we do not end up with a system that is based more on revenge than restoration. A revenge-based criminal justice system seeks to measure out as harsh a judgement as is possible so as to satisfy the natural inclination to get even.”
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Huckabee’s poor judgement freed a convicted rapist from prison despite a warning from his victim that he would repeat his crime if turned loose. Soft-hearted Mike ignored the advice and persuaded the parole board to let the dangerous criminal out of prison. Less than a year later, the violent predator sexually assaulted another woman and killed her.’
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Huckabee and Ethics
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http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2007/10/29/mike-huckabee-and-ethics.html
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Betsy Hagan, Arkansas director of the conservative Eagle Forum and a key backer of his early runs for office, was once “his No. 1 fan.” She was bitterly disappointed with his record. “He was pro-life and pro-gun, but otherwise a liberal,” she says. “Just like Bill Clinton he will charm you, but don’t be surprised if he takes a completely different turn in office.”
Phyllis Schlafly, president of the national Eagle Forum, is even more blunt. “He destroyed the conservative movement in Arkansas, and left the Republican Party a shambles,” she says. “Yet some of the same evangelicals who sold us on George W. Bush as a ‘compassionate conservative’ are now trying to sell us on Mike Huckabee.”
See, the problem with the Fredheads is they say the "goal" is to defeat Rudy, but then they trash anyone who can "beat Rudy" who name isn't "Fred Thompson". Alot of them have said they'll stay home if Mitt Romney is the nominee. MY goal is anyone but Rudy. I will happily vote for Fred, Mitt, Mike, Duncan, or Tom in the general, and I would ever hold my nose for McCain or that lunatic Ron Paul if their election was key to stopping Rudy.
THEIR goal, on the other hand, is "NOBODY but Thompson". According to them, Fred is the only acceptable candidate. If Fred looses the nomination, they'll take their ball and go home, rather than stop Hillary by supporting an eeeeeeeeeevil "RINO" like Mike or Mitt. The Ron Paul supporters simularly are of the "Nobody but Ron Paul" mindset, but at least they admit it.
At least Huckabee's supporters can admit Huckabee has been on the wrong side on some issues, like Global Warming and cigarette hikes. Try to get a Fredhead to admit Fred is ever wrong. They scream "treason" when other Senators support McCain-Feingold, but when Fred did it, aw shucks, he had a very good reason, he was just trying to "end corruption". They rant and rave at Huckabee for supporting amnesty as Governor and now being against it, but when you point out Fred supported amnesty as Senator and is now against it, gee whiz, Fred was only trying to help "legal" immigration and "refugees", no matter how many times the word "ILLEGAL" came up and Fred was okay with "aspirations of citizenship" for them. And I love the "you fear Fred" and "Fred's was just being a good federalist" response to everything. If Fred came out in support of pedophilia they'd probably resort to those canned responses. It sounds more like John Kerry's "You dare question my patriotism?" mock-outrage when anyone brought up his poor record in office or millitary "credentials".
The fact of the matter is, Huckabee, Romney, and FDT are all splitting the anti-Rudy vote. So in a way, Fred's entry in the race only "helped Rudy" because Fred is competing with the same voting bloc who will never accept an unabashedly liberal nominee.
Wendell Willikie was polling a VERY distant fourth place behind the three "front runners" in the 1940 GOP nomination (Senators Bob Taft of Ohio and Arthur Vandenberg of Michigan, and NY Governor Thomas E. Dewey). The uninspiring "front runners" grumbled and complained he was as a distraction from the "real candidates". Willikie was told before the primaries he had no chance at the nomination and would only serve as spoiler. And we all know how that primary turned out.
Freepers who complain about the rise of Huckabee have only their candidates to blame. Huckabee filled a void because neither Romney nor Fred fulfilled their goals to unite social conservatives. Huckabee is a longshot nominee, but the fact he's in the race doesn't make him a "spoiler" anymore than it makes Romney one. If Romney and Fred were doing their job and getting hard core social conservatives aboard, Huckabee wouldn't have risen in the polls. The Fredheads laughed off the Iowa caucus as irrevelant and seemed enjoy giving anyone from outside a safe "red state" (New Hampshire, Iowa, etc.) the finger. When Huckabee came in 2nd due to Fred's nonparticipating, they dismissed it and said Fred didn't "need" to announce and he could wait around forever until he felt like it. Meanwhile Huckabee worked his butt off trying to win over the grassroots.
One thing is for certain, the Fredheads aren't laughing now.
So I thought long and hard and decided to support the candidate with the least "flawed" record who could theoretically win the GOP nomination. IMO, that's Huckabee.
Of course we were also told that Brownback and Tommy Thompson's base was "irrelevant" and it didn't matter which candidate they got behind.
It just seems this smug attitude from the "front runners" is coming back to bite them.
Good points.
I suggest you recalibrate on your candidate.
Mitt Romney is a better conservative than Mike Huckabee.
APPROACH 1:
“Personally, I think the best way to beat Hillary Clinton is not to water down our values, or to try to act more like Hillary Clinton, or try to blur the distinction between Republicans and Democrats. I think we need a strong Republican.”
APPROACH 2:
“We are here to choose a candidate who can win next November. It does us no good to stand on our beautiful, wonderful principles, and lose to Hillary Clinton.”
Who campaign said which one?
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