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Final TB count: 212 test positive at 1 chicken plant
decaturdaily.com/ ^ | FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 2007 | Eric Fleischauer

Posted on 11/03/2007 7:05:23 AM PDT by B4Ranch

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To: B4Ranch; Between the Lines; ga medic; zeegrindy; neverdem

There are a couple of complicating factors.

Many of the people born in Mexico have been vaccinated for TB, and will test positive - sometimes very positive. And the patients don’t always know whether they were vaccinated. My policy for employees born in Mexico and some of the other countries that have had vaccination programs was to go ahead and get the xray each year instead of the skin test.

The other problem is that some people just don’t express a reaction to the TB test. Protocol nowadays is that if the patient with a negative test hasn’t had a test in more than a year (?3 years?), they have a second “re-test” 2 weeks after the first. They’re only “negative” if the second test is also negative.


121 posted on 11/03/2007 11:25:49 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Mad Dawg
No mention of their status withrespect to immigration? Are we to assume that all these workers were legal immigrants?

While I'm not 100% certain, I'd fully expect that a TB screening would be part of the process when one immigrates legally.

122 posted on 11/03/2007 11:34:27 PM PDT by Bob
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To: wtc911

After spending a tour in Saudi Arabia in the early 1990s...I came back to test positive. The Air Force had hired out almost all of this chow hall personnel to a bunch of Pakistani and Philippine guys....so there wasn’t much doubt about where I got the thing. I think a fair number of military folks are getting this, and they are quietly treating it without saying much to the public.

I’m from this area of Bama where this TB testing was conducted. None of the locals are surprised. I’m predicting that Alabama starts mandatory testing of TB for all employees of any company within two years. It’ll be a yearly thing...just wait and see. Bama will be the first state to do this.


123 posted on 11/04/2007 12:53:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: B4Ranch

In 1983 while at Camp Pendelton I had to guard for the night an illegal immigrant with TB, I kept my distance needless to say.


124 posted on 11/04/2007 6:12:23 AM PST by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: ought-six
a great deal of the blame on our political leaders, for they have allowed — hell, they have ENCOURAGED — this to happen.

There must be a way for the States to a class action lawsuit against the Federal Government. This should be settled finally in the SCOTUS.

The SC justices should UPHOLD the laws on the books no matter how liberal some of them are. Of course, some will try to legislate from the bench and would be interesting to see their wiggling and going through hoops to explain how breaking the law is OK!

125 posted on 11/04/2007 6:40:58 AM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: Myrddin

Your point is well taken but those cases are quite rare and not easily detected; found this brief from S Agrawal, a researcher:

“Tuberculosis of the stomach and duodenum is rare in patients with pulmonary tuberculosis. Primary involvement is even rarer. Two cases of primary tuberculosis of the localised to the pyloro-duodenal area are presented. The most common symptoms are non-specific leading to a difficulty in establishing a pre-operative diagnosis. A high degree of suspicion is therefore required for its diagnosis and to differentiate it from more frequent causes of gastric outlet obstruction such as chronic peptic ulcer disease and gastric carcinoma. The treatment of gastric tuberculosis is primarily medical with anti-tuberculous drug therapy. The role of surgery lies in the cases with obstruction following hypertrophic tuberculosis. The surgery done is usually a gastroenterostomy. With the relative rate of extra-pulmonary tuberculosis increasing, tuberculosis of the pyloro-duodenal area should be considered in the differential diagnosis of gastric outlet obstruction.”


126 posted on 11/04/2007 8:45:57 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Myrddin

Point two:

These digestive cases are showing up mainly due to the increasing population of immuno-suppressed patients presenting.


127 posted on 11/04/2007 8:47:33 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: B4Ranch
Check this out...

‘Sending them back’ causes problems

128 posted on 11/04/2007 8:56:45 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
And....

Wayne Farms should put money into tests prior to employment

You know, making sure prospective employees were here legally would also be a nice idea....

129 posted on 11/04/2007 8:59:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Diogenesis

“MAN THAT BOTTLE WENT FAST! IF YOU’ALL WILL HELP ME UP I’LL GET ANOTHER”!


130 posted on 11/04/2007 9:01:42 AM PST by Eighth Square
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To: mewzilla

The argument makes sense if the policy is only enforced locally. Enforce it statewide or better yet nationwide and then the wages will go up, the companies stay in business and everybody is happy.

Yes, the price of chicken might have to go up by a nickel also but that is the better choice, IMO.


131 posted on 11/04/2007 9:11:02 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: B4Ranch
I notice that the columnist stated that the company was paying a comparable wage.

My response to the columnist: Prove it.

132 posted on 11/04/2007 9:12:38 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: B4Ranch
This is from last year.

Ruling helps workers claiming Tyson hired illegals to cut wages

How quickly they forget.

133 posted on 11/04/2007 9:14:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ga medic

Help your self. (Believe me, you don’t want the original research. One life of blunders is enough!)


134 posted on 11/04/2007 10:19:44 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Bob
Yeah, but even natural born citizens of the US sometimes crop up with TB.

Still it seems to be that the newspaper is somehow reluctant to say, "Hey, a bunch of illegal immigrant chicken-pluckers are lungers," for fear of being accused of bigotry and stereotyping.

Better babies should die than any one should profile.

135 posted on 11/04/2007 10:30:58 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: B4Ranch
"The majority of the folks that we're dealing with in this situation are foreign born"

Coughing, laughing or talking can transmit the airborne tuberculosis bacteria.

This is something I hadn't thought of before. Foreign-born people with TB are probably employed everywhere. Housecleaners, construction workers, moving companies, busboys, taxi drivers, nannies, baby sitters... I think we need some sort of national TB test for "immigrants".

136 posted on 11/04/2007 10:45:12 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Deport 'em all.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Yeah, but even natural born citizens of the US sometimes crop up with TB.

By the same token, the number of TB cases in the US has been reduced so much for many years that it's been described as 'eliminated' (in all but the rarest of cases, of course).

137 posted on 11/04/2007 10:46:56 AM PST by Bob
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To: Bob
Two anecdotes, from long long ago in a galaxy far far away:

A perfectly legal immigrant comes down with TB in the mid 60's.

A lived all his life just about in Mississippi upper middle class Mississippi white guy dies in Baptist Hospital, Jackson, MS of TB, an, uh 1979 or 1980, I forget which. We gowned and gloved and "observed respiratory precautions" when we called on him.

Yeah that was a while back. I sure don't know if it's relevant. The POSSIBLE relevance of the first story is that the legal immigrant (from Peru) tested positive sometime after her legal admission to the US. Lots of possible explanations, from "artefact" or sloppiness on the first test, to, well who knows what ....

138 posted on 11/04/2007 10:59:30 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Believe me, I’m not saying that TB doesn’t ever happen in the US. Massive vaccinations had beaten the rate down to a very low number, especially when compared to many other countries. In this case, though, there is a huge percentage of the workers who are testing positive. That raises my suspicions that illegal immigration is probably behind it.


139 posted on 11/04/2007 11:09:16 AM PST by Bob
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To: Brilliant
I like the way they put DC in the Atlantic Ocean in that map. I wonder how that could be arranged.

Global Warming! (LOL!)

140 posted on 11/04/2007 11:17:15 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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