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To: Halgr; All
It’s all part of the globalist philosophy which many of our politicians, including POTUS, are in favor of, or at least don’t try to stop. Sovereignty has become a dirty word. Let’s all sit in each others bath water and become dirty together.

The world's best and brightest may cobble together anything that they wish, but they'll never overcome the force of nationalism. Has any one of them stopped to answer where today are the French, Ottoman, English, Austro-Hungarian and Soviet Empires, as well as the former Yugoslavia? Have they thought about what fractured these artificial entities?

Or still closer to our own time, the failure to thrive of Sub-Saharan African countries used to be most often blamed on their former colonial masters putting together historic enemies (nations) within the same boundaries. And, given the popular outcry of the electorate against CIRA and The DREAM act, I hope our nation's leaders aren't surprised that legitimate citizens of this country are unlikely to ever love illegal aliens to whom they grant McCitizenship

In the end, whatever they cobble together will be driven apart by the centrifugal forces of nationalism, leaving a neo-feudal society or contiguous ethnic diaspora in place of a once great nation. In the end everything finally yields to culture and nationalism. History proves it every time.

21 posted on 11/04/2007 2:34:13 PM PST by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: E. Cartman

OK. So then how do you explain america? What culture and what nation are the people of the USofA?


23 posted on 11/04/2007 2:48:57 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: E. Cartman; Clemenza
The world's best and brightest may cobble together anything that they wish, but they'll never overcome the force of nationalism. Has any one of them stopped to answer where today are the French, Ottoman, English, Austro-Hungarian and Soviet Empires, as well as the former Yugoslavia? Have they thought about what fractured these artificial entities?

Or still closer to our own time, the failure to thrive of Sub-Saharan African countries used to be most often blamed on their former colonial masters putting together historic enemies (nations) within the same boundaries. And, given the popular outcry of the electorate against CIRA and The DREAM act, I hope our nation's leaders aren't surprised that legitimate citizens of this country are unlikely to ever love illegal aliens to whom they grant McCitizenship

In the end, whatever they cobble together will be driven apart by the centrifugal forces of nationalism, leaving a neo-feudal society or contiguous ethnic diaspora in place of a once great nation. In the end everything finally yields to culture and nationalism. History proves it every time.


It's very true. I remember radio talkshow host, Chuck Harder, always said that whomever is behind the New World Order to unite the world will eventually fail, it will not "be like that Coca Cola commerical where you have people singing on a mountain in perfect harmony." Probably the one uniting thing out there that would get everyone together is a threat from outer space and once that threat is over, provided we win or drive them off, you will have huge splits again on national lines on how to rebuild and restablish the rule of law.

I remember when the U.S. got involved in Bosnia bombing the Serbians. My last name is Serbian origin and my uncle (actually more of a cousin but he is an uncle to me) who shares the same name, said to me in a sad voice, "we are bombing the Homeland" (Serbia). I don't know where most of the United States people stood, whether it is for the Bosnian Moslems or the Serbians but here in Pittsburgh, we have a large Serbian community and most local talkshow callers here were pro-Serb. I remember one CBS newsreport was where a then 19 year old Bosnian Albania immigrant was going over to fight in the war over there, one guy of Serbian descent called KDKA-AM and said he was 50 years old, fought in Vietnam, and was going over to fight for the Serbs and "that 19 year old kid better watch it."

Look at what is happening in Russia now. If I was a Russian citizen somehow down on his luck (I'm part Russian and Russian Jew too) or wishes for the old days of Communism when Russia matter more (I would be old enough to remember the USSR if I lived there, I'm 41), I would be behind Putin all the way, at least in the eyes of some, he wants to re-establish the Soviet Union in a partial sense.

Myself, I'm a Michael Savage, Borders, Language, and Culture guy and if this New World Order stuff is "progress" at the stripping of our rights and identity, then this might be nihilistic of me, but I'd rather see the world succumb to an atomic war and knock us back 200 years before we lose our identity and right to self determination.

Maybe the true future is Balkanisation, with all the illegals entering the U.S., huge divisions of left and right, and whatnot to where you might see the U.S. and other large countries breakup. I could be wrong and I hope that in our case, I am.

Predicitons of the future aside, nationalism is a very powerful force and I do consider myself a nationalist.
46 posted on 11/04/2007 5:06:50 PM PST by Nowhere Man (RIP, Corky, I miss you, little princess!!! (Corky b. 5-12-1989 - d. 9-21-2007))
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