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Wal-Mart Sells $199 Linux Computer
www.physorg.com ^ | 10/31/2007 | PETER SVENSSON

Posted on 11/05/2007 12:19:20 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Bump while waiting for price to fall to $99—


81 posted on 11/06/2007 6:51:52 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Red Badger

bump


82 posted on 11/06/2007 6:53:00 AM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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To: driftdiver
In Ubuntu, you add a firewall (or any other software in the repositories--already configured) like this:
83 posted on 11/06/2007 6:59:11 AM PST by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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To: kevkrom
No, it probably support ethernet instead

Yes, it says in the article that it does.

a) dial-up is starting to phase out, and b) the article points out that the distribution is tailored around web-based applications that require good bandwidth. Dial-up won't cut it for what the distribution is tailored to do.

The reason I'm banging my head against the wall is the lack of forward vision that is represented in a package that included a modem, with an OS that doesn't support it. It's laughable, and, come to think of it, it's just what you'd expect on a cheap Chinese piece of crap computer from Wal-Mart.

If I were on the team that put this package together I'd probably have gotten myself into hot water over it, because I'd have been relentless in pointing out how people are going to assume that if we didn't cross this "T" then we probably didn't dot some "i's" either.

I shudder to think what people would be saying about Microsoft if they shipped a bargain basement OS on a bargain basement computer with the same discontinuity between OS and hardware. And deservedly so.

84 posted on 11/06/2007 7:55:31 AM PST by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: MarineBrat
The reason I'm banging my head against the wall is the lack of forward vision that is represented in a package that included a modem, with an OS that doesn't support it.

They're using a mass-market processor/motherboard combo. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen something on the MoBo that wasn't used by the OS (or even physically hooked up!)

85 posted on 11/06/2007 8:01:24 AM PST by kevkrom (*** THIS SPACE FOR RENT ***)
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To: RockinRight

Portal...


86 posted on 11/06/2007 8:03:09 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: Myrddin
It will take effort each week to keep up with patches.

Thank God Windows doesn't need any patches...

87 posted on 11/06/2007 8:06:50 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: null and void
Notice I said ANY operating system needs regular maintenance to fix bugs and clear security holes. That includes Linux, Windows, QNX and a variety of genuine UNIX products. I was applying patches to UNIX1100 (UNIVAC), SunOs4 Solaris and HP-UX for many years. Ditto for Xenix (SCO and Microsoft). No OS or application is free of defects. It's a matter of how urgently the fixes must be applied.
88 posted on 11/06/2007 2:22:03 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger

I know where I’m buying my son’s first PC.


89 posted on 11/06/2007 2:24:26 PM PST by Ancient Drive
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To: Ancient Drive

I don’t recall, but this may be available only on-line. You’d have to check..........and NO MONITOR........


90 posted on 11/06/2007 2:29:12 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: null and void
Thank God Windows doesn't need any patches...

LOL!!........No, it needs BONDO!............

91 posted on 11/06/2007 2:30:21 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

I havethe monitor and all other peripherals.


92 posted on 11/06/2007 2:30:50 PM PST by Ancient Drive
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To: Red Badger

ha! But if I didn’t put it in there there’d be at least one freeper taking me to task for attacking Linux or WalMart or both.


93 posted on 11/06/2007 4:33:56 PM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: zeugma
Indeed, but with the initial cost being $0, and the fact that you don't have to worry about viruses, trojans, or other assorted malware and the associated programs that you have pay for, install, configure and maintain, you'll end up way ahead with a Linux box.

Those security patches that are constantly flooding into you Linux box are because there are defects that can be exploited in the software. You are no further ahead with Linux than with Windows. Indeed, the attempts to make work-alike software are barely adequate in many cases. When I've had to purchase commercial Linux applications in place of the Windows versions, the price was higher...and the functionality wasn't as good. It's still a niche market for commercial (COTS) consumer software. It isn't supported at all by many of my vendors. The tools for embedded development distributed by Microchip are only available for Windows.

It's a poor strategy to cling to a given platform without consideration of your needs. I must have both Linux and Windows to get my job done. If a single platform is good enough for your needs, that reduces your maintenance efforts. I have to update 6 Windows platforms and 6 Linux platforms weekly. The Windows is a mix of Windows 2000, Windows XP Pro and Windows XP Home. Linux is a mix of Fedora Core 7 and Debian 4.0. In addition, the embedded Linux targets have to be updated with new shared libraries and executables in a completely manual effort. There is nothing automated for those very lean targets. Linux has its own flavor of "DLL Hell". I have to run "ldd" against every executable and ensure all the necessary shared libraries are present and correctly linked. It's easy to get it wrong.

94 posted on 11/06/2007 5:04:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: papasmurf

“New & refurbished? LOL I wonder why? All those “bad raps” you heard about, no doubt.

My brother just bought a New refurbished Dell, but got it with Linux pre-installed, should be here tomorrow or Wed.

He chose Linux, because he has been playing around with one of my Ubuntu boxes, and likes the clean lines, the smooth interface, the ease and economy of finding and installing software, and the fact that it, a 700 mhz P4 outperforms his dual core Vista box, and knowing that he doesn’t have to buy anti-virus and firewall software each year.

Hey Vista...I’m glad I missed ya’!”
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I doubt there was ever anything wrong with it but Dell is obligated to label it as such. So far as I can tell it was new but I saved about $200 or so.

I’ve used it continuously since last Thursday and think Vista is visually beautiful and bug free. It is much, much easier to work with files and in fact I haven’t found anything to complain about.

I’ve used Linux (ubuntu) but quite honestly using Vista is ready for prime time. Linux is not. I’m sorry to break it to you but you will eventually wind up with a Vista machine. I strongly suggest that you buy one out of the box fully configured and ready to go with a big SATA hard drive, dual core, 2 gb of memory and all the bells and whistles. The software alone would cost $250 off the shelf and it is on the computer already and that doesn’t even count the hardware.

You do what you want to. I’ll stay with Vista. It has no bugs and works infinitely better than XP. My XP machine will be in the corner for that rainy day but I doubt it will do much more than gather dust.


95 posted on 11/07/2007 3:09:59 PM PST by RichardW
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To: RichardW

Hell will freeze over before Vista resides in my home or office.

Wink2K-sure, WinXP-maybe, Vista-puhleeeese!


96 posted on 11/07/2007 3:15:25 PM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: papasmurf

What is your beef? Have you even used it?


97 posted on 11/07/2007 4:08:11 PM PST by RichardW
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To: Astronaut

As I see other people have pointed out subsequent to your post, your description would have been quite apt 7 or 8 years ago. It’s a different world now on the Linux desktop.


98 posted on 11/07/2007 4:11:46 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture ™)
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To: Myrddin
The tools for embedded development distributed by Microchip are only available for Windows

Your needs are as different from the average desktop user's needs as Mars is from Venus. Absolutely no relavence to the discussion. A desktop user picks a distro and sticks with it. Will never need to know about ldd as the updates occur nearly automatically in the background.

99 posted on 11/07/2007 4:17:29 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture ™)
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To: twntaipan

Guarddog is my favorite as well. Very finely grained control and nice interface. Hasn’t given me the slightest problem in all these years. The home page is:

http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/


100 posted on 11/07/2007 4:20:24 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture ™)
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