Posted on 11/05/2007 9:23:01 PM PST by calcowgirl
The Republican debate over torture has become a debate over resumes, as John McCain warns from personal experience about the dangers of harsh questioning and Rudy Giuliani takes credit for his skill with it as a prosecutor.
“When someone says waterboarding is similar to harsh interrogation techniques used against the mafia in New York City, they do not have enough experience to lead our military,” McCain said ...
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McCain’s shot at Giuliani’s credentials was the latest in an increasingly hostile back-and-forth on Friday between a pair who used to exclaim their mutual respect, as the issue of torture’s definition – once treated in Washington as an abstract issue of international law – has come to be personalized between the two Republican contenders.
Giuliani, who never served in the military, said McCain “has never run a city, never run a state, never run a government. He has never been responsible as a mayor for the safety and security of millions of people, and he has never run a law enforcement agency, which I have done.”
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
Purse fight!!
America's Mayor - America's Security Guard
1 minute video of Giuliani's statements on youtube.
An ugly fight, for sure.
Giuliani: Five military deferments.
McCain: Five years as a POW.
Well, that’s no excuse for him to hamstring our interrogators or try to close Gitmo or grandstand about Abu Grahib. I loathe him
It's some of the legislation he's enacted while in office that has folks deeply concerned.
Thanks calcowgirl, I never knew that.
"Upon graduation from NYU Law in 1968, he was classified as 1-A, available for military service. He applied for a deferment but was rejected. In 1969, MacMahon wrote a letter to Giuliani's draft board, asking that he be reclassified as 2-A, civilian occupation deferment, because Giuliani, who was a law clerk for MacMahon, was an essential employee"
Some men are more essential than others I guess.
Regards
Guess who said this:
“Legal issues aside, the American people and government should never abide the use of torture by our military or intelligence agencies. A decent society never accepts or justifies torture. It dehumanizes both torturer and victim, yet seldom produces reliable intelligence. “
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul185.html
Giuliani: “[John McCain] has never run a city, never run a state, never run a government. He has never been responsible as a mayor for the safety and security of millions of people, and he has never run a law enforcement agency, which I have done.”
Bluster. McCain served as a Naval officer for 22 years, saw combat, faced the enemy, spent 5-1/2 years in a POW camp, and commanded the largest squadron in the Navy.
Rudy knows how to manage. McCain knows how to lead.
I looked for this news after stumbling upon the video at youtube (linked above).
I just couldn’t believe that Rudy was citing his experience as a prosecutor questioning some wiseguys as comparable to McCain’s experience of being a POW. I was stunned.
No matter where you stand on the torture discussion, it was really offensive (imo).
This frontrunner thing is going to his head. He’s blustering all over the place. On electability. On this. Whatever.
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