Posted on 11/06/2007 1:12:13 AM PST by Fred
MANCHESTER, New Hampshire: Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani said Monday that if his achievements as president are as good as the crime-reduction results of his New York police commissioner, a man now under criminal investigation himself, "this country will be in great shape."
Giuliani, in an interview with The Associated Press, acknowledged mistakes by Bernard Kerik, who was police commissioner when Giuliani was mayor. But he said crime reduction for the city was more important.
Kerik, whom Giuliani pushed to head the federal Department of Homeland Security, is under investigation on what could be multiple felony charges. Giuliani said he had not spoken to his friend and one-time business partner recently and had no idea what implication a Kerik indictment or plea deal could have on his presidential campaign.
"I have no idea what's going to happen, first of all, nor do I have any idea what he's going to do," the Republican contender said.
Giuliani has accepted responsibility for his role in Kerik's embarrassing 2004 withdrawal as President George W. Bush's Homeland Security nominee after revelation of tax problems. Ethics questions and corruption allegations also have swirled around Kerik. But the former New York mayor said the results of the commissioner's time in New York far outweigh isolated incidences.
"Bernie Kerik worked for me while I was mayor of New York City. There were mistakes made with Bernie Kerik. But what's the ultimate result for the people of New York City? The ultimate result for the people of New York City was a 74 percent reduction in shootings, a 60 percent reduction in crime,
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These are crimes not mistakes. Really looking forward to the Don Giuliani administration.
So now "possible" felony charges are essentially a conviction or at least a basis to play guilt-by-association? Now you tell me a Dem would get this same treatment. Please!
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“The end always justifies the means” for Rudy, screw The Constitution.
I agree both Rudy and Fred are sticking up for their friends. I think that is a show of character.
IT is for the murder of unborn babies!
IT is a big gun control nut!
IT covered for the invaders in ITS city!
IT surrounds ITself with queers and thugs!
Why does IT have an R by ITS name instead of a D?
Zero question that this AP piece starts with a turn of phrase which in itself implies the Mayor is also under investigation. The AP expects us all to nod and turn our heads, like dogs to a whistle... Nevertheless, even my Mainstream Media Bias Filter is stretched My the sentence which follows.
NOW, having though about it in my pre-dawn hazy thinking, I realize it, too, is a clever turn of phrase, saying what the Mayor said. (I'm genuinely sorry, but I have difficulty remembering how to spell his name, so with genuine respect, I refer to him by his well-earned title.
Either the Mayor or the writer, who then must have wanted to raise it, have posed a moral question... and a question that floats on rhetoric alone...though it was enough to make me stop and meditate on whether "mistakes" Kerik "made" are less important than his accomplishments.
Apples and Oranges, obviously, but a clever way to twist the unconscious moral filters of headline screeners sipping their first cup of coffee.
I guess I could say this makes the writer either a very good writer or a genuinely evil one.
I have to remember one of the biggest social change in my lifetime is the acknowledgment of the Left that there is another side. They were all Mobius Strip thinkers when I grew up, unable to accept "another side," even though this has resulted in their being less comfortable and less rational.
Sounds like Dem double speak to me!
Took the words from my mouth. Rudy is Nifong without hair.
Hey Liz, looks like Rooty is trying to act like he and old Bernie were not and are not really that close.
We need that picture to show how close they really are and have been.
"Oh, Rooty, you make me feel warm and fuzzy all over."
"Thith ith nothing, Bernie. Wait'll we're alone in my offith."
.......as to Kerik's filthy links to organized crime, "Me-First Giuliani" defended the tainted Kerik----Giuliani's former driver, bodyguard and business partner.
Giuliani connived to foist Kerik on the Nation as Homeland/Sec/Secy b/c Kerik would have wholesale access to FBI files.
Kerik's surveillance of FBI files---then turning over useful info to Giuliani---would materially advance Power-Mad Giuliani's political ambitions.
"Me-First Giuliani" also connived to shield himself from the fact that he had knowledge of, but ignored, Keriks filthiness. "I was not informed of it, "Save-My-Rear Giuliani" lied when asked if he had been warned about mobbed-up Kerik when he appointed Kerik to the top NYC police post in 2000.
But "Security Expert Giuliani" had tripped up royally trying to save himself, and was forced to amend the statement last year in testimony to a state grand jury.
"Forgetful Giuliani" the security expert said that neither he nor any of his aides could recall being briefed about Keriks mob involvements.
"Me-First Giuliani" was forced to acknowledge that the city investigations commissioner, Edward J. Kuriansky, had told him that Kerik was mob-connected at least once.
But a review of Mr. Kurianskys diaries, and investigators notes from a 2004 interview with Giuliani indicate that such a session indeed took place.
Even more significant:
According to Kurianskys diaries compiled at the time (plus Kuriansky's later recollection to investigators), Kuriansky recalled briefing Giulianis closest aides about Keriks dirty entanglements just days before Giuliani promoted his chauffeur, Kerik, (the man who knows where all of Giuliani's bodies are buried) to be the city's top cop.
LMAO! Rooty’s posture in that picture makes me wonder where his other hand is.
Oue friendthip ith tho cloth, Bernie. Ith handth on!
Kuriansky left his own diaries AND recorded testimony he himsef gave to investigators.
Putting your mobbed-up pal on the city payroll, and promoting him for the head of Homeland Security, shows a decided lack of character.
Loyalty is a wonderful thing, but it should never be allowed to trump integrity.
As oppposed to sticking up for the country by not putting felons in your campaign.
Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani said Monday that if his achievements as president are as good as the crime-reduction results of his New York police commissioner, a man now under criminal investigation himself, "this country will be in great shape."
What results? Kerik was the commissioner for the last year or so of Rudy's administration.
I think Rudy's really talking about his own results. He certainly can't show that Kerik's prior qualifications or results in office justified ignoring his mob connections.
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