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Kansas church protestor (sic) demands details of criminal charges
Columbus Telegram ^ | November 5, 2007 | Josh Funk

Posted on 11/06/2007 6:05:15 AM PST by Zakeet

PAPILLION, Neb. - Shirley Phelps-Roper and her attorney want to know exactly why she has been criminally charged for protesting at a Bellevue soldier's funeral in June, so they can challenge the charges.

Phelps-Roper and her attorney, Bassel El-Kasaby, asked a Sarpy County judge Monday to order prosecutors to spell out in writing why she is charged with flag mutilation, negligent child abuse, contributing to the delinquency of a minor and disturbing the peace. They say the details of those charges will be important to Phelps-Roper's defense.

"This case clearly raises some substantial constitutional issues," El-Kasaby said.

Phelps-Roper is a member of the Topeka, Kan., based Westboro Baptist Church, whose members believe that U.S. troop deaths in Iraq are punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

The protesters carry signs bearing such slogans as "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags." Followers say they are entitled to protest at soldiers' funerals under the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and religion.

Monday's hearing did not attract protesters. Instead Phelps-Roper brought only a few family members for support. Phelps-Roper said she believes Sarpy County prosecutors are persecuting the Westboro church.

"This nation _ and in particular this city and this county and this state _ is experimenting with our liberties because you don't like our message," Phelps-Roper said.

But Sarpy County Attorney Lee Polikov said Phelps-Roper's decision to allow her 10-year-old son to stand on an American flag during the protest justified the prosecution because violence could have ensued.

(Excerpt) Read more at columbustelegram.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; phelps; westboro
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1 posted on 11/06/2007 6:05:17 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

I still have a hard time believing they’re really Christians. This seems like some giant “Landover Baptist” style stunt carried way too far.


2 posted on 11/06/2007 6:08:14 AM PST by faloi
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To: Zakeet
Why is anyone giving these whack jobs any publicity. They need to be committed.


3 posted on 11/06/2007 6:09:08 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Zakeet

Her attorney appears to be Arab. I wonder how many Arabs there in all of Kansas. Well well well.


4 posted on 11/06/2007 6:09:27 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: faloi

Galatians 5:22-26

22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.


5 posted on 11/06/2007 6:11:05 AM PST by uptoolate (This world is not my home, I'm justa passin' thru.)
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To: faloi

‘really Christians’

They are not.


6 posted on 11/06/2007 6:12:45 AM PST by Leg Olam (I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy)
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To: jiggyboy

“....to allow her 10-year-old son to stand on an American flag during the protest justified the prosecution because violence could have ensued.”

She didn’t “allow” it she “caused” it.....and her conscious intent was to “incite to riot”, which IS illegal


7 posted on 11/06/2007 6:13:49 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: Zakeet

She looks like a wack-job.


8 posted on 11/06/2007 6:15:30 AM PST by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: Zakeet

“members believe that U.S. troop deaths in Iraq are punishment for the nation’s tolerance of homosexuality.”
Bull cr@p! They don’t believe that. It’s just something they spew. They should just hook up with Kode Punk.


9 posted on 11/06/2007 6:17:50 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
There is a Constitutional issue.

Article III, Section 3, Paragraph 1, of the Constitution of the United States:
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them,
or, in adhering to their Enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
"

The "aid and comfort" prong of treason has been interpreted
by SCOTUS as requiring proof of four elements:
1. an intent to betray the United States (which can be inferred from);
2. an overt act;
3. witnessed by two people; and
4. that provides aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States.

10 posted on 11/06/2007 6:20:07 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Zakeet

A prime example of how hate affects ones appearance. ick.


11 posted on 11/06/2007 6:21:54 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: Zakeet
She obviously believes the law doesn't apply to her. We talk so much of rights that we've lost sight of the responsibilities that go along with them. We gain the greatest satisfaction in the service of others. That is why God gave us freedom. It means nothing if we use it wrongly.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 11/06/2007 6:23:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet

Oh, man - it’s reproduced!


13 posted on 11/06/2007 6:23:44 AM PST by Socratic (“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength.” - Corrie Ten Boom)
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To: faloi

I still have a hard time believing they’re really Christians.”

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They aren’t. And I wish the media and others would stop calling this organization a church. It’s not a church. It’s a cult.


14 posted on 11/06/2007 6:30:28 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: SoldierMedic
She is a wack-job. Without any doubt. She is brainwahing those children too just like Phelps brainwashed her & her siblings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27a90KU-DfM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqvewouaGWw

15 posted on 11/06/2007 6:32:17 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: Zakeet

I don’t often advocate violence as a solution to a problem, but in the case of the Phelps family, I’d make an exception...


16 posted on 11/06/2007 6:32:55 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: SoldierMedic
"She looks like a wack-job."

Oddly enough...

17 posted on 11/06/2007 6:33:44 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: faloi

Their day of chastisement and reckoning has come.


18 posted on 11/06/2007 6:34:23 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: pandoraou812

I just didn’t expect her to look so crazy.

I used to ride a city bus when I was in High School, and often we would have this lady who would hold signs outside the local court house. Crazy signs like “FBI is Jewish Nazis” and “Red Square, Everett”. She looked somewhat normal for how crazy she was.


19 posted on 11/06/2007 6:37:37 AM PST by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: SoldierMedic
I've seen her during PGR rides and she is a nut. Its really sad to see the children out there. They are being brainwashed & there is no reason for it. Google this if you want to read why the Phelps are like this..........Fred Phelps expose.

~Pandora~

20 posted on 11/06/2007 6:42:24 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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