Posted on 11/06/2007 6:55:52 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
In Texas, the home state of President Bush, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani leads New York Senator Hillary Clinton by eleven percentage points, 50% to 39% (see crosstabs).
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds Arizona Senator John McCain also enjoying a double digit lead over the former First Lady, 50% to 39%.
It’s a bit closer with former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson in the mix, but Thompson leads Clinton 47% to 41%. However, Clinton does manage a statistically insignificant one point lead over former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. It's Clinton 43% Romney 42%.
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I am a died in the wool conservative and I think you are underestimating Romney and his ability to help the conservative agenda as President.
“Romney is leading in those states becuase he is the only one on TV.”
LOL. Do people in these states not get to watch debates? Or news shows? Or read the papers? Or look online?
If that should happen, I'm outta here!
I'm all for the current competition taking place in the party, as opposed to Hillary's coronation. Although I'm a Fredhead, I will support the Republican nominee next year. Whatever the misgivings I may have about the other candidates, I expect those to be dealt with as the primary season progresses.
Hope you didn't mind my edit of your comment, WOSG.
And I think that is BS, most southern folks and especially those in Texas are gun owners and they know mitt is no friend of gun owners. He is a liberal, and since he agrees with hillary about 98% of the time it makes no difference.
It sounds like you are in the tank for Romney. I guess he can fool some of the people some of the time.
I realize that’s no way to judge someone but that’s how it plays out in reality.
Don't you mean in the states where he has bought the most votes.
Isn’t that the “Peoples Republic of Massachusetts” just south of the “Socialist Republic of Vermont”. Might as well be from San Francisco.
This Texan thinks Romney was a more conservative Governor in Massachusetts than Rick Perry has been here in Texas.
I’ve said it multiple times on FR and I’ve had nobody argue against that. hmmmm.
Romney is more conservative than for example Dewhurst, Combs, and a few other Texas state leaders.
He’s no Jerry Patterson, but then few are. :-)
Jerry and Greg Abbott are for Fred, but what I see distressing is the Rudy support in the primaries.
Romney is polling where he is mainly because he is not known here. Romney is not as well know among general voters. Where and when he is well-known, he polls well.
That’s an insult to GOP primary voters in those states. Can you be bought? If you cant, dont accuse others of same.
I think it's that to some degree, but more importantly, it's also because of the very convenient recent flip-flops of his stands on moral issues such as abortion, homosexual "rights", and gun control. People in the bible belt south take abortion and special "rights" for homosexuals very seriously, not to mention the millions of gun owners in that section of the nation who are very wary of any northeastern liberal's intentions regarding gun control.
McCain's strong lead over Hillary shows that he still retains a significant degree of loyalty in that region because of his POW and war hero status, but he is not very well regarded for his overall record in the Senate and I doubt that he will win any southern state in the primaries. I don't believe that either Mitt or Rudy can win the electoral votes of several of the bible belt southern states if nominated, and without that entire electoral vote bloc in his pocket any Republican nominee will be in deep trouble next November.
AFAIC there are no Repub candidates in this race who really inspire a lot of enthusiasm, but if I could be convinced that he has a chance to win I would vote for Hunter as the most conservative of the pack. Otherwise I intend to vote for Fred in the primary and to abstain from voting for president next November if Rudy is the nominee, as I am very much afraid that he will be. I will reluctantly vote for Mitt in the general election if he's nominated, but without any trace of enthusiasm or hope for a conservative administration under his leadership.
Thanks, it was a cut-n-paste and didn’t notice the typo.
Your comment is correct.
We are getting all the skeletons and the issues with the candidates on the table. The primary will sort these things out. As I’ve said: Let the best conservative win!
I agree on what you are saying on Rick Perry, but what else would be expect from him, he was once a dim. He is endorsing Rudy. I just feel that out here in West Texas, Romney will not win. Rudy would.
No argument here. Even the Mass. Mormon can do better than 39%.
Talk about BS ... phew.
“mitt is no friend of gun owners.”
Every gun bill he signed as Governor was NRA-supported.
“He is a liberal”
No he’s not, not by a long shot.
“, and since he agrees with hillary about 98% of the time”
No he doesnt.
“it makes no difference.” Facts make a difference, you are spewing spin.
“I agree on what you are saying on Rick Perry, but what else would be expect from him, he was once a dim. He is endorsing Rudy. I just feel that out here in West Texas, Romney will not win. Rudy would.”
You may be right ... even though Romney is a family-values conservative-of-the-heart and Rudy is new york city social liberal who shacked up with gays between marriage 2 and 3, and is more liberal on a host of issues from gay marriage, abortion, guns, etc. Not to mention little things like Romney signing up for no-new-taxes and limiting spending and Rudy not.
That’s a riddle. This whole “Texans dont go for RINOs” and then seeing them flock to Rudy is a major disconnect. Unless they are sold on ‘911 Rudy’ and go for RINOs who happen to talk tough and have a big swagger, I cant figure that out.
What, there are a lot of republicans that can be bought, we just saw a whole bunch of them vote for the amnesty bill. Go take a couple of aspirin, you've had your head up mitt to long.
“People in the bible belt south take abortion and special “rights” for homosexuals very seriously”
AHEM ... If that is really true, then why isnt Rudy in single digits in these areas?!?
Seriously, this line of thinking might make sense but doesn’t add up with the polling.
Romney is the strongest of the front-runners in opposing gay marriage. He is for the Federal Marriage Amendment, while Rudy and McCain and even Fred Thompson are not. Both his personal life and his positions are much more ‘family values’ oriented than Rudy. For that reason, I think he should be more acceptable to social conservative voters.
“I don’t believe that either Mitt or Rudy can win the electoral votes of several of the bible belt southern states if nominated” - Yet they are tied for the LEAD in the SC primary.
This is not about elected officials, this is about primary voters. You claimed they can be bought. That is simply slander, and insults to me to cover your insult to the voters dont make it true.
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