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In Lone Star State, Clinton Trails All Top GOP Contenders but Romney
Rasmussen ^ | 11/06/2007

Posted on 11/06/2007 6:55:52 AM PST by Brices Crossroads

In Texas, the home state of President Bush, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani leads New York Senator Hillary Clinton by eleven percentage points, 50% to 39% (see crosstabs).

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds Arizona Senator John McCain also enjoying a double digit lead over the former First Lady, 50% to 39%.

It’s a bit closer with former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson in the mix, but Thompson leads Clinton 47% to 41%. However, Clinton does manage a statistically insignificant one point lead over former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. It's Clinton 43% Romney 42%.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; election; elections; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; hillary; mccain; mitt; romney; rudy; thompson
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To: WOSG
No doubt Rudy is a social liberal, but he was a tough federal prosecutor for many years. He turned NYC around as mayor.

The first Repub debate that I watched was the most recent (where Fred dressed down "Christopher"). I was heartened by the eloquence that virtually every candidate displayed.

Whoever emerges from the field will be a formidable opponent for Hillary, IMHO.

I've noticed that Huckabee has been "anointed" as the MSM's favorite candidate, just as McCain was anointed in 2000. Sorry, folks, but one President (in my lifetime) from Hope, Arkansas is all I can stomach. Huck talks a good game, and he's a good man, but he's too much of a nanny-statist in my view.

41 posted on 11/06/2007 8:03:04 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: WOSG
This Texan thinks Romney was a more conservative Governor in Massachusetts than Rick Perry has been here in Texas.

No argument - but this goes in the "aim low, boys, they're ridin' Shetlands" category. If Rick Perry is our barometer, then we are all doomed.

My nightmare scenario would be a Romney/Perry ticket. I'm not sure if I could tell them apart in a police lineup.
42 posted on 11/06/2007 8:04:18 AM PST by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

This is not a matter of being ‘in the tank’, it’s about defending a very capable and accomplished candidate from bogus attacks.

Ideology aside, Mitt Romney is the most capable person running for President on either party:

The only candidate with significant private sector experience and accomplishment that relates to leading and executive decision-making.
He got his Harvard MBA and JD at the same time.
He started and ran Bain Capital
He turned around Bain Consulting
He then led the turnaround on the SLC Olympics.
He is still married to his high-school sweetheart has 5 kids and 10 grandkids.

The real Mitt Romney is a family-values moderately conservative energetic superb businessman who likes solving problems. I’ve said for some time that Mitt Romney as president will be a smarter, more articulate and slightly more conservative on fiscal issues and immigration version of George W. Bush.

Romney is only member of the field who’s been a truly successful businessman. He’s 62 but looks 10 years younger. Maybe it’s his daily jogging.


43 posted on 11/06/2007 8:06:05 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: WOSG

Fred’s numbers may change if the word gets out he now has a softer approach towards abortion (i.e he doesn’t think states should make it illegal)


44 posted on 11/06/2007 8:07:19 AM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: JFC; horse_doc; goldstategop

Texas is an interesting example. Because of GW’s, Senator Hutchinson’s and Gov Perry’s desire for open borders and all that implies, the state is overrun by illegals. Houston is a sanctuary city - billboards in Mexican language abound, some HISD schools now offering Mexican curriculum to help their kids “adjust”. Our local school dist now having to deal with prayer and the pledge. There is RLDS church in our neighborhood. Number of cars growing by leaps and bounds. We won’t vote for HC but for Republican president? Time will tell.


45 posted on 11/06/2007 8:09:33 AM PST by Grams A
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To: horse_doc
My nightmare scenario would be a Romney/Perry ticket.

I can't stand Rick Perry! Do you really think he could lower himself to be on a ticket that he is not "the good looking one?"

Perry is still a Democrat between his ears.

46 posted on 11/06/2007 8:12:39 AM PST by lonestar
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To: horse_doc

“aim low, boys, they’re ridin’ Shetlands”
LOL

“My nightmare scenario would be a Romney/Perry ticket.”

My nightmare is Rudy/Perry, and I am convinced, since Perry is transparent in his ways, that is what his endorsement is about.
These guys on the Rudy team actually think Perry is a real conservative. Never mind his recent flip flop back to not liking border fences, or that he supported a RINO to defeat Justice Steve Smith (independent conservative).

Romney is Harvard, Perry is an Aggie. Even if they both have some RINO tendencies, there is IMHO a stature and capability gap. Romney will put Sanford, DeMint or someone of that type on the ticket. JMHO.


47 posted on 11/06/2007 8:12:53 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: WOSG
This is not about elected officials, this is about primary voters.

So only people like mitt can be bought and everyday voters that would let someone pay for their bus ride and buy them free meals cannot. LOL Is that what you are saying?

48 posted on 11/06/2007 8:13:08 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ari-freedom

“Fred’s numbers may change if the word gets out he now has a softer approach towards abortion (i.e he doesn’t think states should make it illegal)”

well, that’s not quite right - Fred’s saying let the states decide. He is still pro-life just not for Federal law on it. Fred’s and Mitt Romney’s position on abortion and life is pretty much the same.
If you want a real pro-HLA candidate, it would be RINO Huckster or Hunter or Tancredo.


49 posted on 11/06/2007 8:15:03 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: org.whodat

*YOU* are the one who made the indefensible slander against primary voters, your attempts to wriggle out notwithstanding. I’ve made no comment against anyone.
Why don’t you simply retract your slander and move on?


50 posted on 11/06/2007 8:17:23 AM PST by WOSG (Pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-strong defense, pro-GWOT, pro-capitalism, pro-US-sovereignty)
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To: WOSG

As I said, In your world, “So only people like mitt can be bought and everyday voters that would let someone pay for their bus ride and buy them free meals cannot. LOL Is that what you are saying?”


51 posted on 11/06/2007 8:27:25 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: WOSG
“Fred’s numbers may change if the word gets out he now has a softer approach towards abortion (i.e he doesn’t think states should make it illegal)”

well, that’s not quite right - Fred’s saying let the states decide. He is still pro-life just not for Federal law on it. Fred’s and Mitt Romney’s position on abortion and life is pretty much the same.

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WRONG!

What Fred Said was that it should not be illegal for a 17 year old or her mother to get her an abortion. Mr. Romney says there should be a constitutional amendment to protect the unborn. VERY substantial difference.

52 posted on 11/06/2007 8:37:55 AM PST by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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To: WOSG
“Fred’s numbers may change if the word gets out he now has a softer approach towards abortion (i.e he doesn’t think states should make it illegal)”

well, that’s not quite right - Fred’s saying let the states decide. He is still pro-life just not for Federal law on it. Fred’s and Mitt Romney’s position on abortion and life is pretty much the same.

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WRONG!

What Fred Said was that it should not be illegal for a 17 year old or her mother to get her an abortion. Mr. Romney says there should be a constitutional amendment to protect the unborn. VERY substantial difference.

53 posted on 11/06/2007 8:37:56 AM PST by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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To: bw17
I would bet that 30% of this country couldn’t correctly even identify him in a line-up of candidates right now.

I'd bet they couldn't correctly identify ANY Republican candidate. But put TFFL (The Former First Lady), the Breck Girl or Barak Hussein Obama up there and they'll know them. Same for that Hilton gal or the Spears gal.

54 posted on 11/06/2007 8:56:48 AM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: WOSG
...what I see distressing is the Rudy support in the primaries.

Gotta agree with you here, WOSG -- at this point it appears that Giuliani's ceiling is about 30%, which is good...but it looks like his floor is about 20%, which is obviously bad. It seems to me like he's been awfully quiet lately -- I think he knows that the more people see him, the more his support declines. So it looks like he's keeping his head down and trying to coast into the nomination.

55 posted on 11/06/2007 10:54:48 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Brices Crossroads

If you can come close to losing Texas,...you definitely shouldn’t be our pick.


56 posted on 11/06/2007 11:07:12 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: JAKraig
What Fred Said was that it should not be illegal for a 17 year old or her mother to get her an abortion.

No he didn't. He said that he is pro-life, has 100% pro-life voting record, and wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade -- i.e., states should decide their own abortion policies. Beyond that, he said that he personally didn't believe in criminalizing women, i.e., throwing them in jail. There are many things that are illegal and heavily penalized, but do not entail prison.

This is in line with the GOP platform, which states: We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion.

57 posted on 11/06/2007 11:17:08 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: JAKraig
that it should not be illegal for a 17 year old or her mother to get her an abortion

Does Mitt believe that a 17 year old and/or her mother should be tried as criminals if they persue an abortion?
58 posted on 11/06/2007 11:29:16 PM PST by gpapa
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To: ari-freedom
Fred’s numbers may change if the word gets out he now has a softer approach towards abortion (i.e he doesn’t think states should make it illegal)

When has Fred said that states should not, of their own volition, make abortion illegal? It's true that his support for letting states do that wouldn't necessarily imply that he would support actually having them do so, but I'm unaware of any evidence of that being the case.

59 posted on 11/06/2007 11:51:48 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: al_c
I think it’s more indicative of Romney’s religion. Texas and Alabama are in the middle of the Bible Belt and the LDS religion is not very big here.

Regardless of what is indicative of, there's no way ANY GOP candidate can afford to lose a Southern state if they want to win the general election. That they'd even be in play is a bad enough sign.

Of course, I will point out, as I always do, that these head to head "horse race" numbers are pointless at this time, because the candidates aren't running against each other yet, they're still in their own primaries.

60 posted on 11/07/2007 5:29:26 AM PST by kevkrom (*** THIS SPACE FOR RENT ***)
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