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For Thompson And McCain, It's Too Little Too Late
GOPUSA ^ | November 6, 2007 | By Doug Patton

Posted on 11/06/2007 7:05:11 AM PST by Calpernia

U. S. Sen. John McCain, R-AZ, has spent the better part of the last decade running for president. He actively sought the office in 2000 and lost handily to George W. Bush. Since that time, he has done everything he could think of to antagonize the base of his own party.

Former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-TN, acts as if the thought of running for president just occurred to him five minutes ago. Some days he acts as though it still hasn't occurred to him.

For very different reasons, these two men, with their totally different approaches to politics, have probably slammed the door on their chances for winning the Republican presidential nomination.

In 2000, McCain was the darling of the mainstream media. Back in those days, he was the anti-Bush, which appealed to them. This year his worldview is anathema to theirs because he has unapologetically defended "Bush's war."

But McCain's unpopularity within his party stems from two other issues: illegal immigration and campaign finance reform.

On immigration, McCain seems to have learned his lesson. In what radio host and bestselling author Laura Ingraham would call a "Power to the People moment," McCain (along with a lot of other members of Congress), has gotten the message loud and clear: border enforcement first.

"I understand why you would call it a, quote, shift," McCain said to reporters after being grilled by voters in South Carolina. "I say it is a lesson learned about what the American people's priorities are. And their priority is to secure the borders."

Too bad it took a meltdown of the congressional phone lines last June to convince the senator of the common sense of the American people. Until he saw his poll numbers sink to single digits, McCain seemed absolutely oblivious to - nay, defiant of - the people's will. Nevertheless, those of us who have been incredulous to the deafness of the president and far too many members of Congress on this issue welcome Sen. McCain into the bright light of reason on this issue.

While "comprehensive immigration reform" (better known as "amnesty"), is dead, the legislation for which John McCain is best known is still alive and festering within our political system. The McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill passed by Congress and signed into law by the president will be haunting us for years, despite the fact that the Supreme Court has struck down certain provisions of the law. For that reason, it has left the base of the Republican Party with a permanent bad taste for McCain's brand of politics.

Fred Thompson's alienation from the GOP activists who comprise the nominating block of the party is much more recent. In fact, it unfolds like a wet blanket of sad disappointment day by day. Desperately seeking a candidate to rally around, social conservatives keep waiting for Fred Thompson to show them p something.

His recent underwhelming performance on "Meet the Press" did not help. Asked about his positions on abortion and same-sex marriage, Thompson, who has a respectable record on both issues, managed to flub his answer. He told host Tim Russert he opposes to an amendment to the U.S. Constitution on either issue, preferring to leave these two crucial social issues to the individual states. As Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family has pointed out, Thompson endorses the idea of fifty different definitions of marriage. The same is true, it seems, on the definition of life, since Thompson simply wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned and the issue returned to the states.

In addition, Thompson seemed muddled and indecisive about his opinion on water boarding as a technique for dealing with terrorist detainees.

With less than two months remaining until the Iowa caucuses, it is likely that Fred Thompson and John McCain will both continue to decline in the polls, while former Governors Mitt Romney (Massachusetts) and Mike Huckabee (Arkansas) will continue to gain on the current frontrunner, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. So be it.

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Doug Patton is a freelance columnist who has served as a political speechwriter and public policy advisor. His weekly columns are published in newspapers across the country and on selected Internet web sites, including Human Events Online, TheConservativeVoice.com and GOPUSA.com, where he is a senior writer and state editor.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: axisofdesperation; fredthompson; gopusa; johnmccain; mcain; medialies; postcardfromoblivion
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To: Calpernia

LOL!!!!!!!!!

This is a stupid article.


21 posted on 11/06/2007 7:21:10 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: claudiustg

A Romney Huckabee ticket sounds plausible.


22 posted on 11/06/2007 7:21:33 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Calpernia
His recent underwhelming performance on "Meet the Press" did not help.

Underwhelming my a$$. I thought it was among his best appearences yet. He gave well thought-out, lucid, Constitutionally sound responses and didn't let Russert get the best of him, yet kept his composure and treated Russert with respect.

23 posted on 11/06/2007 7:22:23 AM PST by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: marvlus
BS! Get some perspective and look at the competition. Even rootie is less queer that edweirds. No, I have lived through much worse political times. In fact... I am beginning to see a Conservative rebound in America. America will not elect a 9% party to office. Close the borders... fight jihadis... support guns and low taxes... and the votes will come. Pessimism is for losers!

LLS

24 posted on 11/06/2007 7:22:44 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: jmyrlefuller

No attacks against the poster.

However, I think Fred did very well on MTP.

People see what they want to see. If they want Fred to fail, they see him failing.


25 posted on 11/06/2007 7:23:22 AM PST by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: Vaquero

Another wrong ad hominem attack from the Thompson camp. Why am I not surprised?


26 posted on 11/06/2007 7:23:33 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: RockinRight

At least you stick to the issues for the most part, as much as we disagree. I can’t say that for some of your comrades...


27 posted on 11/06/2007 7:24:15 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: 1Old Pro

As a life-long Arkansas conservative, believe me when I say, you REALLY DON’T want Huckabee on any GOP ticket. He’s NOT the conservative he acts like.


28 posted on 11/06/2007 7:24:34 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: claudiustg

> It’s becoming obvious that Fred really isn’t riding in to save the GOP day. If it comes down to Giuliani, Huckabee or Romney, then Romney all the way!

I’m not enthused about any of those 3. Rooty is a big lib, Huckabee is a stealth lib, and Romney has conveniently migrated to the non-lib side of the house just in time for primary season— let’s just say I doubt what he’ll do once he gets the reins. I will dutifully pull the lever against Her Thighness, but it will be a queasy election year, to be sure.


29 posted on 11/06/2007 7:25:12 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: OB1kNOb

I don’t think any of the frontrunner GOP candidates are Free Republic Conservatives. I also think the “frontrunners” are down to Mitt and Rudy.


30 posted on 11/06/2007 7:26:27 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Calpernia

>>As Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family has pointed out, Thompson endorses the idea of fifty different definitions of marriage. The same is true, it seems, on the definition of life, since Thompson simply wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned and the issue returned to the states.

In addition, Thompson seemed muddled and indecisive about his opinion on water boarding as a technique for dealing with terrorist detainees. <<

Roe V. Wade should be overturned.
Waterboarding, like other mock executions, is a form of prohibited psychological torture.

Dobson impresses me less and less.


31 posted on 11/06/2007 7:26:35 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: confederateone
They tried that with Reagan too. It is too bad that REAL AMERICAN HISTORY is no longer taught in our public schools... for people would be better equipped to be able to point out BS when they see it!

LLS

32 posted on 11/06/2007 7:27:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Calpernia

‘But McCain’s unpopularity within his party stems from two other issues: illegal immigration and campaign finance reform.’

This author doesn’t have a clue, as this statement shows clearly.

McCain was never ‘popular’ with the GOP base at ANY POINT. Thats a result of his loving MSNBC’s gang of leftwingers and the attention they have given him over the past decade or so. He was only popular with the MSM types, who knew he would implode in a national election he entered at the top of the ticket.

At this point in the 2004 race, John Kerry was at the same leve Thompson is at today, folks. Doesn’t mean Thompson will win, but it does show the author’s research for this hit piece was shoddy at best, intentionally false at worst.


33 posted on 11/06/2007 7:27:20 AM PST by Badeye ('I'll bet Badeye laughs his a$$ off at you twinks' - (yes, I do...chuckle))
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To: alloysteel

McCain is dead meat. Keating 5, against conservatism, questionable on immigration, too old, a loose cannon, not in touch with mainstream America, media darling, etc.


34 posted on 11/06/2007 7:28:33 AM PST by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Then why is Fred doing BETTER than Romney in most polls?


35 posted on 11/06/2007 7:28:54 AM PST by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: Calpernia

Giuliani fluff.

No Giuliani, NO PROBLEM.


36 posted on 11/06/2007 7:29:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Badeye

>>>>McCain was never ‘popular’ with the GOP base at ANY POINT.

The writer may have mentioned McCain and Thompson together since Thompson co chair McCain’s 2000 run.


37 posted on 11/06/2007 7:29:05 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: jmyrlefuller
I was just going to post the same about obnoxious rootie-tooters and mittwits... but your post beat me to it.

LLS

38 posted on 11/06/2007 7:29:55 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Calpernia

‘The writer may have mentioned McCain and Thompson together since Thompson co chair McCain’s 2000 run.’

The writer will be voting a straight Democratic ticket come November of 08.


39 posted on 11/06/2007 7:30:06 AM PST by Badeye ('I'll bet Badeye laughs his a$$ off at you twinks' - (yes, I do...chuckle))
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To: Calpernia

The more I hear about Romney the less I like him, and I didn’t like him to start with. The game-show-host polish is not what I’m looking for in a president. And yet, slickness in a candidate seems to coincide with slickness in his campaign, and Fred could use a little slick in that department.
Nevertheless, I watched the MTP interview with Fred, and he strikes me as a mature, sensible, wise man; a statesman. While I’m not completely satisfied with his comments on a certain issue, he is clearly the best of the batch.


40 posted on 11/06/2007 7:30:09 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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