Posted on 11/07/2007 5:35:15 AM PST by ShadowDancer
Abstinence programs only work for those who participate or don’t participate or well, you know what I mean.
I call BS.
Axl Rose and Madonna, of course.
Funny how people can always find what they want to find.
it is funny how it almost reads “abstinence doesn’t stop sex.”
Who can believe the survey results anyway? The boys who don’t will say they do (more “macho”); the girls who do will say they don’t (don’t want to look like tramps).
More secular-progressive nonsense.
I wonder if it give them greater confidence to say 'no' to wanted sex?
I thought the idea of abstinence was to reduce teenage pregnancy.
Principal walks in and sees someone eating. "Why are you eating in the classroom?"
"Mr. Burke says we can."
Keep in mind the first nine words of this post . . .
"abstinence-only efforts appear to have little positive impact"
It appears to me that this study is presenting strong bias but no factual evidence.
Yeah right.
teen pregs are down. how is that not a positive impact?
Yes. They are wearing the more condoms because they are having sex later. Wearing condoms makes sex less likely. It all makes sense.
If you read the article all the way through, you discover toward the bottom the acknowledgment by the sponsoring group that the group which did the study develops sex education materials for the schools and that some of the materials it “studied” were developed by the group itself. So, yes, I would say there’s a bias. What bothers me is why Fox would publish such a press report where it is clearly an unreliable result.
Read this list of their board of directors and trustees. It will tell you everything you need to know about this group.
Board of Directors
Updated July 2007
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Chairman
Thomas H. Kean
Chairman
The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
former Governor of New Jersey
President
Isabel V. Sawhill, PhD
Senior Fellow, Economic Studies
The Brookings Institution
CEO and Treasurer
Sarah S. Brown
Robert Wm. Blum, MD, MPH, PhD
William H. Gates Sr. Professor and Chair
Department of Population and Family Health Sciences
Johns Hopkins University
Linda Chavez
Chairman
Center for Equal Opportunity
Vanessa Cullins, MD, MPH, MBA
Vice President for Medical Affairs
Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc.
Susanne Daniels
President
Lifetime Entertainment Services
Maria Echaveste
Co-Founder
Nueva Vista Group, LLC
Daisy Expósito-Ulla
Chairman and CEO, d’expósito & partners
William Galston, PhD
Senior Fellow, Governance Studies
The Brookings Institution
David R. Gergen
Editor-at-Large
U.S. News & World Report
Ron Haskins
Senior Fellow, Economic Studies
Co-Director, Center for Children and Families
The Brookings Insitution
Senior Consultant, The Annie E. Casey Foundation
Alexine Clement Jackson
Community Volunteer
Nancy L. Johnson
Senior Public Policy Advisor
Federal Public Policy and Healthcare Group
Baker, Donelson, Bearman, Caldwell & Berkowitz, PC
Sheila C. Johnson, Hon, PhD
CEO
Salamander Farm
Jody Greenstone Miller
President and CEO
The Business Talent Group
Reverend Father Michael D. Place, STD
Vice President, Ministry Development
Ressurection Healthcare
Bruce Rosenblum
President
Warner Bros. Television Group
Stephen W. Sanger
Chairman and CEO
General Mills, Inc.
Victoria P. Sant
President
The Summit Foundation
Sara Seims, PhD
Director, Population Program
The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation
Matthew Stagner, PhD
Executive Director
Chapin Hall Center for Children
University of Chicago
Mary C. Tydings
Managing Director
Russel Reynolds Associates
Roland C. Warren
President
National Fatherhood Initiative
Vincent Weber
Partner
Clark & Weinstock
former U.S. Congressman
Stephen A. Weiswasser
Partner
Covington & Burling
Gail R. Wilensky, PhD
Senior Fellow
Project HOPE
Kimberlydawn Wisdom, MD
Surgeon General, State of Michigan
Vice President, Community Health, Education & Wellness
Henry Ford Health System
Trustees Emeriti
Charlotte Beers
former Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs
U.S. Department of State
former Chairman and CEO, Ogilvey & Mather
Carol Mendez Cassell, PhD
Senior Scientist
Allied Health Center, School of Medicine, Prevention Research Center
University of New Mexico
Annette P. Cumming
Executive Director and Vice President
The Cumming Foundation
Frankie Sue Del Papa
former Attorney General
State of Nevada
Whoopi Goldberg
Actress
Stephen Goldsmith
Daniel Paul Professor of Government
John F. Kennedy School of Government
former Mayor of Indianapolis
Katharine Graham (1917-2001)
Chairman
Washington Post Company
David A. Hamburg, MD
President Emeritus
Carnegie Corporation of New York
Visiting Scholar, Weill Medical College
Cornell University
Irving B. Harris (1910-2004)
Chairman
The Harris Foundation
Barbara Huberman
Director of Training
Advocates for Youth
Judith E. Jones
Clinical Professor, Mailman School of Public Health
Columbia University
Leslie Kantor
Kantor Consulting
Nancy Kassebaum-Baker
former U.S. Senator
Douglas Kirby, PhD
Senior Research Scientist
ETR Associates
C. Everett Koop, MD
former U.S. Surgeon General
John D. Macomber
Principal
JDM Investment Group
Sister Mary Rose McGeady
former President and CEO
Covenant House
Judy McGrath
Chairman and CEO
MTV Networks
Brent C. Miller, PhD
Vice President for Research
Utah State University
Kristin Moore, PhD
Area Director, Emerging Issues
Child Trends, Inc.
John E. Pepper
CEO
National Underground Railroad Freedom Center
Hugh Price
Senior Fellow, Economic Studies
The Brookings Insitution
Warren B. Rudman
Senior Counsel
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison
former U.S. Senator
Kurt L. Schmoke
Dean, Howard University School of Law
former Mayor of Baltimore
Isabel Stewart
former Executive Director
Girls Inc.
Judy Woodruff
Senior Correspondent
The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer
Andrew Young
Chairman
GoodWorks International
former Ambassador to the U.N.
Does it makes sense that NOT teaching abstinence would actually decrease the rate of teen sex? That’s what this study suggests.
Or is the trick in the way they word the results?
Um.
Unless I'm missing something, the only way abstinence-only education can reduce teenage pregnancy is by reducing teenage intercourse. Or encouraging homosexual intercourse instead of heterosexual. Or encouraging sexual behaviors other than intercourse.
This isn't the first study to find flaws in abstinence-only education. I'm more a fan of the belt-and-suspenders approach -- encourage abstinence in the strongest possible terms, of course, but also teach contraception. And don't buy the argument that teaching teenagers about contraception encourages them to have sex -- they need no encouragement.
By way of analogy, imagine an "abstinence-only" approach to driver's ed: "Don't drive like an idiot," end of lesson. As opposed to "don't drive stupid, and always wear a seat belt." Do seat belts encourage stupid driving?
Your analogy is somewhat flawed because wearing a seatbelt is wise advice for both safe and unsafe driving. A closer analogy is if I, as mom, tell my kids “Don’t wander around at night, but if you do go, wear a jacket.” What’s the kid going to hear? As long as I wear a jacket, I can go. They believe I have given permission to wander around so long as they take certain precautions. And it is this wholesale acceptance by the so-called adults of the world that kids will have sex regardless which is destroying these kids. Pregnancies and sexual diseases, while tragic, are not the worse result of this acceptance. Rather it is the destruction of these kids’ ability to create meaningful, lifelong commitments to each other that will cripple this society and the generations to come.
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