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To: Still Thinking
Getting some actual federalism back would be worth letting the states decide the abortion question within their own borders.
Which is why Fred is so consistent on this and many other issues. States should have the right to ban abortions, even the right to lock up 13 year old girls if a majority of voters believe that's the best way to enforce the law. But to make it a federal crime is to do what the leftists do: rule everyone in America from the on-high sanctuary of Washington DC. Fred's against that. So am I.
44 posted on 11/08/2007 2:56:58 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: samtheman

so you have no problem with allowing abortion in states that don’t do anything about it?


45 posted on 11/08/2007 3:01:45 AM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: samtheman
Which is why Fred is so consistent on this and many other issues. States should have the right to ban abortions

Fred's "consistency" is that all fifty states should have the right to enshrine Roe v. Wade into law. Without leadership and a clear voice at the top--the presidency--that is more of a possibility than the alternative that you describe.

Fred is completely unwilling to offer leadership on this point. As general, he wants to abandon the field of battle and allow the fractured individual battalions to be overwhelmed one-by-one by the enemy.

Abortion, like slavery, is too important an evil to ignore at the federal level.

55 posted on 11/08/2007 3:15:55 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: samtheman
But to make it a federal crime is to do what the leftists do: rule everyone in America from the on-high sanctuary of Washington DC.

Bravo Sierra... Life is an immutable right! and the federal government can not abrogate to the states the ability to infringe on immutable rights. A state can not be allowed to lock people up for inconvenient political speech in the name of federalism.

238 posted on 11/08/2007 10:25:32 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: samtheman
>> States should have the right to ban abortions, even the right to lock up 13 year old girls if a majority of voters believe that's the best way to enforce the law. But to make it a federal crime is to do what the leftists do: rule everyone in America from the on-high sanctuary of Washington DC. Fred's against that. So am I. <<

Ah, the ol' discredited Stephen Douglas wing of the GOP strikes again. I'm more in agreement with this quote:

" A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government CANNOT endure, permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved -- I do not expect the house to fall -- but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become ALL one thing or ALL the other. Either the opponents of slavery, will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new -- North as well as South. Have we no tendency to the latter condition?"
-- Abraham Lincoln, 1858

Maybe we should abolish that bad ol' 13th amendment as affront to "federalist" principles. After all, what gave the federal government the right to tell EVERY state they had to respect human rights and basic dignity for all? If some state chooses to have laws treating human beings as lower than animals and disposable property, let 'em.

286 posted on 11/08/2007 4:32:54 PM PST by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors win. Senators DON'TI a. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
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