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Most of this is the fault of the California Assembly and their weird laws, forcing the oil companies to manufacture different types of gasoline just for California.
1 posted on 11/08/2007 10:37:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Serves the people of California right for electing socialists.


2 posted on 11/08/2007 10:39:02 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Rick.Donaldson

‘Most of this is the fault of the California Assembly and their weird laws, forcing the oil companies to manufacture different types of gasoline just for California.’

Yep.

(disclaimer. I dont live in California....)


3 posted on 11/08/2007 10:39:07 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing a few new refineries wouldn’t solve.


4 posted on 11/08/2007 10:42:01 AM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I live in California. I am a conservative leaning towards Libertarian and had nothing to do with the liberals in the California Assembly. Neither did my Wife, our Mayor or our Assemblyman.

Be careful with your wide brush......

7 posted on 11/08/2007 10:43:19 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Thanks Mom for not considering me a "choice".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would like to see Californians pay about $50.00 a gallon.

AP via Breitbart ^ | Nov 8 02:11 PM US/Eastern | SAMANTHA YOUNG
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - California sued the federal government on Thursday to force a decision about whether the state can impose the nation’s first greenhouse gas emission standards for cars and light trucks


11 posted on 11/08/2007 10:46:50 AM PST by zek157
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Darn, it's going up fast. Time to leave Kaliforneea.

$4 Gas Prices Returns to Northern California

Posted on 11/08/2007 11:50:15 AM CST by yorkie

12 posted on 11/08/2007 10:49:36 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$ 3.19 here in ohio People at the pumps are starting to realize it’s the futures market messing with the prices to they aren’ none to happy about it

Had one lady say if we went to war for oil then why aren’t we paying a dollar a gallon instead of three and a guy in the back of the store yelled we diodn’t go to war for oil we went to war for freedom I couldn’t beleive what i was hearing people are actually understanding what the hell is going on and it’s refreshing for me to hear it !


13 posted on 11/08/2007 10:50:00 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Global Warming : Tape a liberals mouth shut and thats the end of Global Warming {both ways})
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
$2.78 on the Jersey Shore.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

16 posted on 11/08/2007 10:53:11 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wah. Lots of oil off the coast of California. Drill for it if you don’t want to pay the import price, if not STFU.


24 posted on 11/08/2007 11:05:32 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$5? I paid $3.21 in San Diego yesterday morning.


33 posted on 11/08/2007 11:36:09 AM PST by jrp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Must be because demand is up so much over a few weeks ago. Either that or a couple of high-producing wells just went dry. It HAS to be something in the supply-demand chain, because gasoline is just another free-market commodity, you know.


34 posted on 11/08/2007 11:55:02 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The long and short of it is that we've bound ourselves as hostages to idiot environmentalism.

Environmentalism says, "No more drilling."

Environmentalism says, "No new refineries."

Environmentalism says, "Make 57 varieties for sale in fractional markets all over the country."

And environmentalism COSTS US BANK!

Still, we're not out there with scythes and pitchforks tarring and feathering environmentalists, so I guess we must ENJOY this great exercise in economic self-flagellation, eh??

Maybe not you or I, but enough damned fools are happy about it all that mustering the impetus for constructive change has been ongoing for 35 years, and there STILL isn't enough force behind it to support Washington D.C. rescuing the economy by overtly telling the environmentalist whackjobs to go screw themselves.

Ahh, well; next universe, maybe.

35 posted on 11/08/2007 12:01:09 PM PST by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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When the barrel price spiked at about $80.00(about three-weeks ago),I remember hearing The Opec Oil Minister(radio report)say not to worry,this won’t last!I said(to myself)”Yeah,Right,It Will be $100.00 In No Time”!Well,here we are!!When are The DemonRats going to be made to PAY(ballot box)for what they have brought down on us?????


40 posted on 11/08/2007 12:17:36 PM PST by bandleader
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yep.. something like 80 blends


42 posted on 11/08/2007 1:29:49 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: All
From my "Sticker Shock- $3 a gallon gas?" file...

I have covered, ( Or, as Seamole puts it... -backhoe's pseudoblog--... ) pseudo-blogged, these issues for years, so allow me to drop out of Lurk and Link mode for a rare bit of commentary-- we all need to get serious about our dependency on foreign sources of energy, and use our own resources.

Our consumer-based economy is driven by and dependent upon readily-available, reliable energy-- choke that off, and we'll all be back to using one rotary dial phone in the dining room, watching one TV in the living room, and driving one car per family-- probably a Hudson Hornet or a Nash Metropolitan...







We need to

1) end the nonsensical ban on offshore drilling off California and Florida--read and weep:


Castro Plans to Drill 45 Miles from US Shores, But We Can't

2) build a lot of next-generation nuclear power plants, not just for electricity, but for any process requiring heat, power, or steam.
And if we replaced our existing nuclear plants with
this one there would be significant benefits.

3) end Jimmy Carter's idiotic ban on recycling nuclear waste, and reprocess the stuff rather than fighting over where to bury it. Europe has done this for decades.-- what to do with spent nuclear fuel? Answer here:

 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1468321/posts?page=50#50

hattip: Mike (former Navy Nuclear Engineer)

4) use the 300-500 years worth of coal we have on our own land, using the new clean-coal technology.
-Clean Coal Centre--

5) and finally, there's nothing wrong with conservation, we should all practice it- but you can't conserve your way out of a shortage. Nor is there anything wrong with "alternative" energy sources- except they don't supply the vast ( not to mention readily-available ) amounts of power we need at a price competitive to more conventional sources. Then again, there is this to ponder:


Energy From the Gulf Stream
http://www.energy.gatech.edu/presentations/mhoover.pdf


Not to mention, this new idea:


Irish Ready To Harness Tidal Power






We do need to get serious about this before we get strangled by a bunch of petty thieves and dictators who don't like us much.

My collection of energy-related links:

Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:


And kindly note, and note well-- the first reply to this post ( when gas was $1.45 a gallon ) was derisive... so, who's laughing now?

( And, to honk my own horn, here is a comment from another board on this subject: )

I happened to be going through a post by "backhoe" and followed his link to a thread he posted on 3-17-04. Pretty good thread titled "Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Some links" that was prophetic, and what do you know, the first reply was Why don't you stop panicking and solve problems that exist posted by "XXX" Backhoe has some very good posts, he mostly lurks and when he does post it is worth the read. From the reply that"XXX" made he appears to be something of a corn-fed kneejerker, even more so with two years to prove how right "backhoe" was.



Vest-Pocket Summary:

1- drill for gas and oil like crazy- onshore, offshore, and in Alaska
2- go nuclear for power
3- convert stationary plants to clean coal technology or Next-Gen Nuclear
4- slash taxes and regulations like crazy...



43 posted on 11/08/2007 3:57:47 PM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
gorda.... well, what's the price of pot....FOB field?

who cares about gas, when grass is the commodity of choice in this community?

46 posted on 11/08/2007 5:35:32 PM PST by pointsal (q)
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