Everyone around the World says... "Socialism WORKS!"

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[WesternCulture]

Sweden:

"The Highest Standard of Living Anywhere"

The beautiful nation of Sweden has the highest standard of living in the world.

[WesternCulture]

- I live in ‘Socialist’ Sweden.

I’ve worked for several ‘Socialist’ companies over here, like ‘Socialist’ Volvo Cars (owned by Ford) and I’ve also worked as a ‘Socialist’ salesman on the European continent. Furthermore, I’ve had several ‘Socialist’ businesses of my own.

I reside in a middle class suburban area (Sävedalen, east of Gothenburg/Göteborg) and believe me, when I walk out the door, or drive around in my neighborhood, I see a lot of prosperity. But very few signs of Socialism.

Most Scandinavians denounce Socialism although many of us agree neighbors looking after each other is a good thing as long as everyone is willing to do their share in terms of contributing to society.

Is ‘Socialist’ Scandinavia paradise on Earth?

No, but it might well be a ‘Capitalist’ paradise. The country which produces the largest amount of dollar millionaires per capita happens to be a Scandinavian one, Norway.

[Paladin2]

Sweden seems to have a little trouble with their muzzies and there seems to be a fair amount of net migration to Norway. Some see the place on the decline.

[WesternCulture]

Correction:

“Sävedalen, east of Gothenburg/Göteborg”

Proper spelling: Sävedalen and Göteborg

[WesternCulture]

The US has a faster growing Muslim population than Sweden and most other parts of the Western World.

[plain talk]

This income tax, 55% of the Gross National Product, the highest income tax in the world, is also coupled with sales taxes, property taxes, and other excise taxes and tariffs. The Swedish sales tax, a "value added tax", ranges to 22.5% of items sold, on various goods including most foods. The total ownership of public goods by the Swedish government is roughly 64%, closing in on 70%, once you include all these other forms of taxation. That is not including government-owned means of production, which control about a full quarter of Swedish productivity.

[mylife]

I am happy that you are happy there.

Whats your tax rate?

[Hawk1976]

Yes, and we need to severely curtail it.

[WesternCulture]

“The Swedish sales tax, a “value added tax”, ranges to 22.5%”

- It’s even worse, it’s 25%!!!!!

But, maybe the success of our multinationals depend on the fact that we don’t tax our companies to death?

I do NOT wish to mock the US. I’m a TRUE friend of TRUE American values as far as I’ve understood them, but I think something is wrong when American companies are being treated this way and you accuse the most succesful economies on Earth, namely the Scandinavian ones of being ‘Socialist’.

[WesternCulture]

My personal tax rate is about 27%.

[Freee-dame]

as long as everyone is willing to do their share in terms of contributing to society.

This is a big "if."

[edcoil]

Socialism works only if you want your children to have less then you.

[JSteff]

“The country which produces the largest amount of dollar millionaires per capita happens to be a Scandinavian one, Norway.”

Interesting. Thanks!

[Windcatcher]

I’m not interested in paying for:

- West Philly’s education
- West Philly’s healthcare
- West Philly’s housing
- West Philly’s food
- West Philly’s vacations
- West Philly’s cars
- West Philly’s XBOX games
.
.
.

None of those people lifted a finger to:

- Help me through grade school
- Help me through high school
- Tutor me on how to best take an SAT
- Help me *earn* a 1380 on the SAT
- Help me *keep* a full scholarship through college
- Help me through grad school
- Help me through grad school (for another Master’s)
- Help me at work

When they can claim these things, then maybe they can start to claim some nonzero part of my wages.

[WesternCulture]

“This is a big “if.”

- Lutheran work ethics is what we teach children in our schools. Not if’s.

[Nateman]

Imagine how bad Sweden would become if the rich Swedes did’nt have the rest of the world to hide their money in.

[PROCON]

Yeah, Iwas getting ready to correct your spelling/sarc

[WesternCulture]

“Socialism works only if you want your children to have less then you.”

- That’s why real Socialism always has been defeated on Scandinavian soil.

Best example in this line of arguing:

Finland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_civil_war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Winter_War

[Secret Agent Man]

Socialism works.

Ask the people who used to live under the USSR how well their system ‘worked’.

Ask the Canadians who come to the US for operations because of a healthcare system that hopes people die off on waiting lists, how well that ‘works’.

Ask the Brits who are fleeing their own country because of orwellian socialism and ever increasing taxes and fines, how well it ‘works.’

Ask the white South Africans who are living under the socialist ANC how well socialism ‘works’.

[WesternCulture]

“Imagine how bad Sweden would become if the rich Swedes did’nt have the rest of the world to hide their money in.”

- Goose pimples!