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France Loses Out as Saudis Sign $2.2 Billion Deal for Russian Helos
defense-aerospace.com ^ | Nov. 2,2007 | Giovanni de Briganti

Posted on 11/08/2007 8:42:53 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 11/08/2007 8:42:56 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Mi-17

2 posted on 11/08/2007 8:52:38 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why would they not be buying American equipment? Bribery anybody?


3 posted on 11/08/2007 8:52:40 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That’s interesting. You might have also noticed that the US dollar is going down and that some US defense contractors and overseas clients might get happier with that. :-)


4 posted on 11/08/2007 8:53:06 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: MSF BU
"Why would they not be buying American equipment? Bribery anybody?"

The costs are very high to foreign buyers, but that's changing as the dollar equalizes with other currencies.
5 posted on 11/08/2007 8:54:23 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: MSF BU; familyop

They still buy truckloads of American toys.They are reengining their F-15s & are looking at AEGIS equipped versions of the Littoral Combat ship as well as anti-ballistic missile systems among other things.Since Sept.11,the Saudis have been wary of putting all their eggs in the Yankee basket.Money has never been a problem for them.


6 posted on 11/08/2007 8:59:12 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Somebody in DC needs a kick in the can.

Why shouldn’t the Saudis buy from us, since we’ve been protecting their worthless asses for all these years?

If the Saudis had US made copters and tanks, we could co-ordinate any ground defense of their sandbox much more easily.

And we could have had a way to recycle those petrodollars back to our shores.

But no—these useless camel humpers have to go buy non US arms—and from our budding enemy and former enemy, Russia.

We’ve had 34 years to make ourselves energy independent and look at us—importing more oil than ever.

The Saudis should be returned to their traditional past—as eternally wandering nomads in the desert. Whio needs friends like these?


7 posted on 11/08/2007 9:03:23 PM PST by exit82 (I believe Juanita--Hillary enabled Juanita's rapist.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why buy a Hind when you can get an Apache. Are the Russians going to start advising SANG next?


8 posted on 11/08/2007 9:03:46 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: MSF BU

They already have Apaches.


9 posted on 11/08/2007 9:04:59 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: MSF BU

Incl. Longbow Variants.

The Hinds are much cheaper,can carry a range of Western electronics/weaponry & also a few troops.Good for heavy anti-terror work.


10 posted on 11/08/2007 9:07:31 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: exit82

They’ve already reverse engineered the stuff we’ve sent them, they need other stuff to bribe the chinese with in case things go south with us.


11 posted on 11/08/2007 9:09:21 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: Westlander

...is that the pilot jumping out?


12 posted on 11/08/2007 9:14:35 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MSF BU

You can’t carry eight grunts in addition to the crew in an Apache but you can in a Hind.


13 posted on 11/08/2007 9:32:23 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: MSF BU

Why would they not be buying American equipment? Bribery anybody?

Seeing these are Saudis we're dealing with, I would bet they go with whoever gives them the most money. Why should we sell them stuff anyway? They'll turn around and fund some terrorist group or donate to Western mosque-building projects with the money we gave 'em. Our dear friends aren't to be trusted...they can go pound sand. They've got a lot of it to work with...
14 posted on 11/08/2007 9:39:18 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Pelosi--pissed off Turkey, supported SCHIP, really jerky, and full of sh|t)
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To: Westlander
A French Cougar Mk. 2.


15 posted on 11/08/2007 10:08:21 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: MSF BU
Why buy a Hind when you can get an Apache. Are the Russians going to start advising SANG next?

Two reasons:1) They are already in possession of Apaches. 2) A Hind can do a lot of what the Apache can do, and at the same time transport a number of soldiers (unlike the 2 man Apache).

16 posted on 11/08/2007 10:09:50 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

bkmarked, Thanks.


17 posted on 11/09/2007 12:27:10 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
the Saudis have been wary of putting all their eggs in the Yankee basket

Cant fault them on that.

18 posted on 11/09/2007 1:40:54 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: sukhoi-30mki
That is one mean mofo. Carries a squad of troops to boot.

The Saudis probably get a lot more bang for the buck buying the Russian tanks. But for aviation, I think they should go more to the French offerings, save for the Mi-35.

The Mi-35, we should buy a bunch of those. They will do the job of the V22 for a whole lot cheaper, and most likely, more effectively.

19 posted on 11/09/2007 1:46:59 AM PST by valkyry1
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If you’d think of replacing the V-22 with an Mi-35,well you might as well go for an armed S-70 variant(which already exists).While cheaper,none of these helicopters will match the V-22 in it’s range,payload & speed in special operations.


20 posted on 11/09/2007 3:05:22 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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