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There is a fascinating (and unfortunate) 911 call from Mr. Reid linked at the story. Sheriff has said that his first take is that Mr. Reid committed no crime. I am guessing that his opinion will not prevail, although I personally would bitterly hate to see Mr. Reid do any time for this. These cases arise from time to time, but this seems a particular interesting one with the things said in the 911 call, the perps already being outside the fence, etc.
1 posted on 11/09/2007 9:21:37 AM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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A necessary ingredient: " Investigators found a stolen piece of machinery belonging to Reid into the back of the sedan. "

Case closed.

2 posted on 11/09/2007 9:25:38 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. <br> "What happens if neutrinos have mass?")
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I would hope he lived long enough to name who helped him rob this person property.
3 posted on 11/09/2007 9:25:41 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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Wow. I hate to sound like a lib but lethal force is not called for when “protecting your property”. Only in self defense or justifiably perceived threat of personal harm!
Almost everyone knows “you cant shoot someone unless they break into your house” and even that doesn’t hold up in court these days. If you are going to use your car to ram someone just to ‘stop them from getting away’, then you might have to expect to do some prison time if that person dies. I understand they MAY have been committing a crime.


4 posted on 11/09/2007 9:25:55 AM PST by z3n
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Not wanting somebody to get away is not considered grounds for justified use of deadly force. Mr. Reid was not being threatened in any way. It is likely that he’s in a lot of trouble.


5 posted on 11/09/2007 9:26:39 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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-bflr-


6 posted on 11/09/2007 9:26:46 AM PST by rellimpank (--we need a special font for <b>SARCASM</b>--NRA benefactor)
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Sometimes one’s luck just runs out.


11 posted on 11/09/2007 9:30:34 AM PST by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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In most places and cases, you can’t use deadly force to stop a property crime... and using a car is deadly force, since the weight alone can crush a person (and clearly, in this case, the suspect died).


12 posted on 11/09/2007 9:31:09 AM PST by Teacher317
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Add to the mix: black "victim" of a white guy; Sharpton, et al leading protests about it being "open season on black folks, etc.

If Reid is tried, he should plead insanity-in the heat of the moment he "lost all resason", etc.

13 posted on 11/09/2007 9:31:45 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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Reid said the stolen equipment was a piece of machinery used to dig holes

Probably a P.H.D., I have two P.H.D.s by the way.

21 posted on 11/09/2007 9:37:33 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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How is a sincere criminal, trying hard, going to get ahead in his profession if his victim fails to cooperate?
Almost all crime depends on the cooperation of the victim.
If the victim refuses his assigned role, the criminal is placed at a disadvantage,
one so severe that it usually takes an understanding and compassionate judge to set right.

LAZARUS LONG


34 posted on 11/09/2007 9:46:02 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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From the article: Reid said he tried to block the sedan in with his truck. When the driver of the sedan, Cornelius Brown, got out and tried to run, Reid said he hit the gas pedal. "My foot ended up getting stuck on the gas pedal and in between the brake, and I hit their car," he said.

I am pretty strongly on the "right to defend and protect" side as a general proposition but the bit above is pretty damning.

Ironically, if Reid had stopped at blocking or ramming the perps' car, he would have recovered his property and they both would have undoubtedly been caught, even if they fled on foot.

I guess my sympathy with protecting property would stop a little short of what Reid seems to have done -- deliberate ram a man on foot (not buying the old foot-stuck-on-gas-pedal story).

35 posted on 11/09/2007 9:46:49 AM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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umm and if he didn’t give a statement to police before talking to a lawyer, he might have remembered in the excitement he thought the guy was going to shoot him and he ducked down and his foot slipped off the brake...end of story...


37 posted on 11/09/2007 9:48:15 AM PST by rolling_stone (same)
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Getting charged with Vehicular Manslaughter is the likely outcome. He’ll get his azz sued 7 ways to Cleveland in civil court by the family of the perp.


38 posted on 11/09/2007 9:48:25 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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Let’s see—SELMA.

Black man killed by white man, regardless of reason.

Expect the Rev-u-rund Jackson and Al Sharpton and the NAACP to be there before sunset, claiming racist premeditated murder on Mr. Reid’s part!!

(no, there’s no /sarc because I’m telling the truth...)


45 posted on 11/09/2007 9:56:31 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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Some of you lawyers: Can the perp who was unharmed be prosecuted under the felony murder rule?


49 posted on 11/09/2007 10:00:16 AM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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Never bring a brown sedan to a farm pickup truck fight.


74 posted on 11/09/2007 10:34:44 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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From the aerial video, it is clear these guys where still on the property by quite a bit. The damage to the car and truck are minimal. He says he hit them hard, but it doesn’t look that way.


81 posted on 11/09/2007 10:49:01 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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They came at him with deadly force, so I would think he couldn’t be charged with deadly force trying to protect himself. The guy should have first said he was in fear of his life since a car was speeding at him. He tried to miss being killed by the car and succeeded but it didn’t work out well for the other guy. So, he saved his own life.


87 posted on 11/09/2007 10:56:30 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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He said exactly the right thing publicly: “As Brown tried to scramble out of the car and run, Reid said, he hit the gas pedal by mistake.”


89 posted on 11/09/2007 11:00:00 AM PST by jim_trent
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Johnston County Sheriff Steve Bizzell said his preliminary findings make it unlikely Reid would be charged.

Sheriff Bizzell certainly gets my vote in the next election.

94 posted on 11/09/2007 11:06:32 AM PST by JoeGar
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