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The Daily Aztec ^ | 11-7-07 | Justin Lafferty

Posted on 11/10/2007 1:45:42 PM PST by DeweyCA

NOW @ SDSU's bake sale charges men more for the same goods

Imagine going to McDonald's and hearing that, because you're a white male, you pay full price for a Big Mac. Meanwhile, the girl behind you pays three-quarters of the total amount for the same thing.

NOW (National Organization for Women) @ SDSU brought that reality to San Diego State yesterday at the Aztec Center by holding a pay equity bake sale. The prices for cookies reflected the difference of pay between genders and races.

"It's just to raise awareness," NOW @ SDSU Co-President Amanda Whitehead said. "A lot of people don't realize that white women make 75 percent of every dollar a white man makes or Hispanic women make 50 percent. It's pretty ridiculous. When they actually have to buy the cookies, it puts it into perspective."

White men, of whom NOW @ SDSU says make the most money of any demographic, were charged a dollar for the same cookie a Hispanic woman would pay 50 cents for. The group broke down the prices for white, Hispanic, black and Asian men and women, using pay scale statistics from NOW and www.payequity.org.

"It's a more unique way of showing the differences without just showing the statistics all the time," NOW @ SDSU Co-President Ashley Frazier said.

This was a creative way for NOW @ SDSU to present students and faculty with the facts, but some people didn't like the way the cookie crumbled.

Finance and statistics senior Adam Hyman passed out free doughnuts to men only after seeing the bake sale, disbelieving in the point NOW @ SDSU was trying to make. "I feel that America isn't anti-minority (or) anti-woman," Hyman said. "(I did this) to prove a point that if a woman were really getting paid 75 percent of what a man is, they could just quit their job and go work for somebody else.

"If this discrimination was real, then a company that only hires women would be better at business."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bakesale; college; culturewars; educrats; feminism; highereducation; nags; now
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First of all, we all know from Thomas Sowell, that studies have shown that women who do NOT take time off from their careers for children, receive nearly identical pay as the men in the same professions. So NOW's entire premise in this stunt is false. Secondly, I don't see the administration raising a ruckus about this sale, like most do when conservatives have an affirmative action bake sale. Typical leftist double-standards by the colleges.
1 posted on 11/10/2007 1:45:44 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA
'Nother male-bashing rant from the NAGs.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/10/2007 1:47:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DeweyCA

lol.

Senior Adam Hyman passed out free doughnuts to men only after seeing the bake sale, disbelieving in the point NOW was trying to make. “I feel that America isn’t anti-minority (or) anti-woman,” Hyman said.

“I did this to prove a point that if a woman were really getting paid 75 percent of what a man is, they could just quit their job and go work for somebody else.”

...Or start their own business


3 posted on 11/10/2007 1:51:17 PM PST by proudpapa (Thompson and/or Hunter.)
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To: proudpapa
They don't have buy donuts. The NAGs could sell donuts if they're that concerned about the alleged income related difference disadvantaging women.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 11/10/2007 1:53:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DeweyCA
"It's a more unique way of showing the differences without just showing the statistics all the time," NOW @ SDSU Co-President Ashley Frazier said.

more unique ?
5 posted on 11/10/2007 1:53:19 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: DeweyCA

I used to do a radio show at this campus.

Its a pure party campus, light on academics and heavy on liquor


6 posted on 11/10/2007 1:54:09 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: stylin19a
There are statistics and lies and damned lies.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 11/10/2007 1:54:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: proudpapa

So, if I went to the bake sale and self-identified as a woman, even though I have a beard, an adams apple and a pe/ I wonder what they would try to charge me for a cookie?????


8 posted on 11/10/2007 1:54:32 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: DeweyCA
Imagine going to McDonald's and hearing that, because you're a white male, you pay full price for a Big Mac. Meanwhile, the girl behind you pays three-quarters of the total amount for the same thing.

Their premise seems wrong here. It's the gals that are getting a break (on price). The guy pays more.

9 posted on 11/10/2007 1:54:32 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: DeweyCA

I would like to see the sales stats. Did any wimpy white guys actually pay a dollar for a cookie? Did any of the groups demand a free cookie?


10 posted on 11/10/2007 1:54:57 PM PST by OCC
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To: DeweyCA

Good... they can pay for they own dinner then too.


11 posted on 11/10/2007 1:55:03 PM PST by YoungHickey ("Those who say it can't be done should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: NewHampshireDuo
The idea is since women make 75 cents of what a man does, in reality women pay the same or more for the same goods.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 11/10/2007 1:55:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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13 posted on 11/10/2007 1:57:03 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

“Their premise seems wrong here. It’s the gals that are getting a break (on price).”

Not if it’s her husband’s money.


14 posted on 11/10/2007 1:57:27 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: goldstategop

I agree it is male bashing. I do not see where these “broads” say anything us men paying more in taxes. We pay more taxes than they do so we should be the one getting the break. Right? HA HA HA


15 posted on 11/10/2007 1:59:08 PM PST by Plumberman27
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To: DeweyCA

Can these people get any dumber? They are treating us like children.


16 posted on 11/10/2007 2:00:12 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: DeweyCA
KCR radio

The more things change the more they stay the same

17 posted on 11/10/2007 2:00:18 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: proudpapa

If an employer could hire a Hispanic woman at half the price of a white man and get the same product of the same quality, why would any employer ever hire any white men? Or am I (almost) the only employed white man?


18 posted on 11/10/2007 2:00:53 PM PST by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: DeweyCA

Well, then, a college educated person should have to pay more than a high-school drop out even if the college educated was a woman and the high-school drop out was a man. Why not have people produce a W2 and then determine the price? Oh, these are college students who don’t work?


19 posted on 11/10/2007 2:01:05 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul isn't mentioned in the Constitution either.)
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To: DeweyCA

They can eat their cookies themselves then...any man that buys one is a total fool.


20 posted on 11/10/2007 2:01:50 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I'M WITH FRED!)
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To: DeweyCA
First of all, we all know from Thomas Sowell, that studies have shown that women who do NOT take time off from their careers for children, receive nearly identical pay as the men in the same professions.

Furthermore, men are more likely to work overtime and call in sick less. Additionally, men are more likely to work dangerous and/or physically demanding jobs that pay more and salaried occupations that require long hours.

There are many reasonable and understandable explanations for the pay disparity between genders but NOW never gets tired of trotting out this "injustice" for each new class of incoming freshmen.

21 posted on 11/10/2007 2:03:24 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Plumberman27

Wasn’t there a conservative bake sale a year or so ago where they doctored the prices and they were shut down by the school?


22 posted on 11/10/2007 2:04:23 PM PST by Thebaddog (You can be a big dog or a small dog, but I am the bad dog)
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To: DeweyCA
NOW @ SDSU Co-President Amanda Whitehead ...

Bet Amanda doesn't put this on her resume when she graduates.

23 posted on 11/10/2007 2:07:57 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: DeweyCA

you left out that if a man says something a woman does not like she will raise a stink and try and have him fired


24 posted on 11/10/2007 2:09:12 PM PST by jrd
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To: stylin19a

more unique? Sorta like uniquer I s’pose.


25 posted on 11/10/2007 2:09:15 PM PST by Don Carlos (No 8 Do.)
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To: Drew68

I heard somewhere that once certain elements are factored in, like the amount of time spent unemployed & not looking, education, etc. the average woman actually make a little more than the average man.


26 posted on 11/10/2007 2:09:16 PM PST by skeeter
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To: DeweyCA

The men shouldn’t whine - they can go to the barber and take their wife with them. The husband will pay half what his wife has to pay for a haircut. From the same barber.

Barber shops are a major source of discrimination, IMHO.


27 posted on 11/10/2007 2:10:41 PM PST by yorkie
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To: DeweyCA
"It's just to raise awareness," NOW @ SDSU Co-President Amanda Whitehead said. "A lot of people don't realize that white women make 75 percent of every dollar a white man makes or Hispanic women make 50 percent. It's pretty ridiculous. When they actually have to buy the cookies, it puts it into perspective."

Utter nonsense. Where do people get statistics like this? The dollar a woman makes is equal in value to the dollar a white man makes. A one dollar sandwich costs the same on the market for a woman as it does for anyone else.

There is no such thing as a 75 cent dollar or a 50 cent dollar. Amanda Whitehead should be ashamed for even suggesting such a thing.

Socialists don't gain any ground without inventing injustices that simply don't exist.

28 posted on 11/10/2007 2:11:56 PM PST by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: DeweyCA

White guys make more money and that’s correct. They forgot to do a little more research. They seem to ignore women SPEND MORE MONEY than white males.

Now exactly where do they get that money to spend?


29 posted on 11/10/2007 2:13:00 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: yorkie

Hey! stop dragging up facts! l0l

This whole thing is an exercise in “huh”


30 posted on 11/10/2007 2:13:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: stylin19a
more unique ?

Uniquer.

31 posted on 11/10/2007 2:16:36 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: gitmo

Uniquest


32 posted on 11/10/2007 2:17:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DeweyCA

Why not just open a table that charges women more? Just to illustrate the absurdity. Or to point out how men pay more for car insurance, for life insurance, ...


33 posted on 11/10/2007 2:19:07 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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Listening to KCR. I forgot how much fun being irreverent was.

LoL this station hasnt changed in 20 years


34 posted on 11/10/2007 2:23:47 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

OK, then. You pay more for the donuts - I’ll buy ‘em for the guy behind you in line. (wink-wink)


35 posted on 11/10/2007 2:26:04 PM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie

LoL I dont do donuts


36 posted on 11/10/2007 2:27:47 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DeweyCA

Actually, I see some interesting possibilities here. Get a whole bunch of different kinds of cookies, and only sell a particular type to a particular type of person, for a set price.

The idea is to set it up so that cookies are sold off based on discriminatory federal and State laws, and social norms.

For example, the “white male” cookie costs a lot, because it has to subsidize the price of many of the other cookies. If you want more than one, you have to buy other cookies and eat them first.

Even more expensive is the “married white person” cookie, that also has to pay a marriage surcharge.

The “gay” cookie is the same as the “disadvantaged racial minority” cookie. Which I’m sure would be appreciated.

Beside the “disadvantaged racial minority” cookie, is the “successful racial minority” cookie. The difference is that the “successful” cookie is stuffed with sweet creme filling, but the “disadvantaged” cookie is stuffed with bitter alum creme.

You can buy the “illegal alien” cookie for a lot less, but it is made with lard instead of vegetable oil and may give you the runs. The tray is surrounded by a partial fence that is easy to reach through. But it has a virtual fence that nobody can see.

The “handicapped” cookie has to be located closest to the customers, and has to have a special handle to make it easy to eat. It is irregularly shaped.

You have to say “Allah Akbar”, before you can buy the crescent shaped “Muslim cookie”, but the “Christian cookie” cannot have a cross on it, and has to be labeled a “Holiday cookie” with the word “Christian” marked out.

The “Democrat” cookie is promised to be enormous, weigh tons, take a vast number of bakers to cook, with equal portions for everybody, costs trillions of dollars, be made overnight, and exists only on paper. Every other nation that has tried to make a Democrat cookie has failed. They collapse because they are full of hot air and gooshy bulls**t.

You have to make your own “Republican” cookie, unless you can afford to buy one from the Halliburton Cookie Company. But it is the best tasting cookie, as you baked it yourself.


37 posted on 11/10/2007 2:32:55 PM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: mylife

Dang. A smart guy.


38 posted on 11/10/2007 2:35:48 PM PST by yorkie
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To: freekitty

Aren’t there more important things to talk about?


39 posted on 11/10/2007 2:36:32 PM PST by hkp123
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To: yorkie

;0)


40 posted on 11/10/2007 2:36:50 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Popocatapetl
***Applause***

41 posted on 11/10/2007 2:38:39 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: willgolfforfood
So, if I went to the bake sale and self-identified as a woman, even though I have a beard, an adams apple and a pe/ I wonder what they would try to charge me for a cookie?????

Identify yourself as a "transgender in transition", and they'll have to give you two cookies, half-price!

42 posted on 11/10/2007 2:41:21 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: yorkie
The men shouldn’t whine - they can go to the barber and take their wife with them. The husband will pay half what his wife has to pay for a haircut. From the same barber.

Bogus comparison

It takes twice as long and it is more difficult to cut a womens hair, unless she's a dike with a mans cut.

43 posted on 11/10/2007 2:44:20 PM PST by Popman
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To: DeweyCA

“NOW” = stooooooopid bleepin’ women, sometimes they should just be seen and not heard......groups like “NOW” just makes it worse for women, they should just shut up and go away.


44 posted on 11/10/2007 2:44:47 PM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: DeweyCA

lib garbage recycled.


45 posted on 11/10/2007 2:51:54 PM PST by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: DeweyCA
"If this discrimination was real, then a company that only hires women would be better at business."

This student just finished reading Gary Becker's book.

46 posted on 11/10/2007 2:54:15 PM PST by paudio
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To: stylin19a

At least it wasn’t the most unique.


47 posted on 11/10/2007 2:57:40 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: DeweyCA
"It's just to raise awareness,"

Thanks. Now, can we PLEASE move on to something important?

48 posted on 11/10/2007 3:06:58 PM PST by Libloather (Hillary donors find their way to the cover of Time. And the very next day they're doing it...)
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To: DeweyCA

Rubbish.


49 posted on 11/10/2007 3:10:19 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Don Carlos
Sorta like uniquer I s’pose

The superlative hierarchy:

Unique, more unique, even more unique, uniquer, uniquest, most unique, duonique duoniquest....

Just proves high schools & colleges need more grammarians, and fewer "______-Studies" instructors.

50 posted on 11/10/2007 3:16:57 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If God didn't want a Liberal hanging from every tree, He wouldn't have created so much rope!)
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