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How plausible do liberals/leftists find it that employers would willingly pay a 33% premium for a male employee over a female?

Either media liberals/leftists are startlingly stupid, or they think the general public is. Well, it's a bit of both. The 75cents/male$ propaganda of course compares all male wages IN AGGREGATE to all female wages IN AGGREGATE. Well, we men IN AGGREGATE do different work requiring more skill,risk, physical endurance, and training/investment; We do it longer and more consistently over a career(i.e. no time out for being subsidized by a spouse for the truly rewarding privilege of raising one's kids); we bear more responsibility for being the primary income to an intact/functional household; and the male wageslaves IN AGGREGATE are older than their female counterparts by at least a few years. Most folks earn more with a few more years experience. Adjusted for these relevant factors, there's probably a slight bias in favor of women, and against men.

While a liberal might be naive/stupid/mathematically impaired and easily mislead about all this, a true Leftist (especially the trained variety like Glorias Steinem and Allred) regards the '79 cents per male dollar' scam as effective propaganda, through repetition. And Leftists tend to regard with amused contempt the Conservative tendency to see all this as an earnest debate, where facts and reasoning matter. It's not that Katie Couric hasn't been informed...it's that She Doesn't Care what's true and accurate. There's an Anti-Male Feminist Agenda to be carried out and The Sisterhood wants to win.

Having dumped at least a few hundred million women on the labor market over the past forty years, thus driving down male wages( and the Corporatist agenda is well-served by this), feminists now use the '79cents/dollar' propaganda to scam/persuade employers that comparable female workers can be had at a bargain relative to the male competition. (Economically displacing men.) It also serves to promote an hospitable environment for discrimination lawsuits, anti-male legislation, and grievances from the subsidized, privileged gender.

59 posted on 11/10/2007 4:01:57 PM PST by ProCivitas (Duncan Hunter = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Pro-America. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: ProCivitas
How plausible do liberals/leftists find it that employers would willingly pay a 33% premium for a male employee over a female?

Perfectly plausible. Corporations have unlimited funds for bribery, pay-offs to CEOs, and to support crime. Where have you been?

67 posted on 11/10/2007 4:49:35 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: ProCivitas
Either media liberals/leftists are startlingly stupid, or they think the general public is.

they think the general public is. they think the general public is. they think the general public is. they think the general public is. they think the general public is. they think the general public is.

84 posted on 11/11/2007 2:18:35 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: ProCivitas
Either media liberals/leftists are startlingly stupid, or they think the general public is.

"No one ever lost a dime underestimating the intelligence of the average American" ......... Henry L. Mencken

Well, it's a bit of both. The 75cents/male$ propaganda of course compares all male wages IN AGGREGATE to all female wages IN AGGREGATE. Well, we men IN AGGREGATE do different work requiring more skill,risk, physical endurance, and training/investment; We do it longer and more consistently over a career(i.e. no time out for being subsidized by a spouse for the truly rewarding privilege of raising one's kids); ........... While a liberal might be naive/stupid/mathematically impaired and easily mislead about all this, a true Leftist (especially the trained variety like Glorias Steinem and Allred) regards the '79 cents per male dollar' scam as effective propaganda, through repetition. And Leftists tend to regard with amused contempt the Conservative tendency to see all this as an earnest debate, where facts and reasoning matter. ...... There's an Anti-Male Feminist Agenda to be carried out and The Sisterhood wants to win.

Two sides can play at that game.

I have quite a few female medical colleagues, and even some corporate female friends, whose husbands have taken advantage of their wives high incomes to take the "Mr. Mom Track" and drop out of the rat race.

Some of those men have taken their chosen role seriously and are still happily married but many took advantage of the situation and found themselves at the wrong end of divorce papers.

Either way, when those men try to re-enter the rat race, their earning potential is far lower than the earning potential of those of us, both male and female, that showed up for the rat race day in and day out.

Maybe we need to highlight the plight of those poor male "victims". We need to educate the public about the "Income Gap" suffered by, as the Brits call them:

"Lads that Lunch".

86 posted on 11/11/2007 7:17:27 AM PST by Polybius
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