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A fine line for Democrats on border issue
LA Times ^ | 11 November 2007 | Peter Wallsten,

Posted on 11/11/2007 6:59:25 AM PST by shrinkermd

Top Democratic elected officials and strategists are engaged in an internal debate over toughening the party's image on illegal immigration, with some worried that Democrats' relatively welcoming stance makes them vulnerable to GOP attacks in the 2008 election.

Advocates of such a change cite local and state election results last week in Virginia and New York, where Democrats used sharper language and get-tough proposals to stave off Republican efforts to paint the party as weak on the issue.

In Virginia, for instance, where Democrats took control of the state Senate, one high- profile victory came in the Washington suburbs, where the winner distributed mailings in the campaign's closing days proclaiming his opposition to in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.

The party's calibration could also be seen in New York, where a number of Democrats won local elections in part by opposing a plan by Democratic Gov. Eliot Spitzer to issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, and in the presidential campaign, in which party front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has struggled to explain whether she supports the Spitzer plan or not.

In Congress, a group of conservative Democrats, led by freshman Rep. Heath Shuler of North Carolina, introduced legislation last week calling for more Border Patrol agents, heightened surveillance and additional requirements that employers verify the legal status of workers.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; dane; democrats; duncanhunter; election; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
Will triangulation work?
1 posted on 11/11/2007 6:59:26 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Some Democrats are realizing sympathy for illegals and rewarding with benefits is NOT a vote getter. The American people are opposed to amnesty and this crosses party lines. Sure, the elites may champion Open Borders. On the other hand, the public's support is for American values. This should be a no-brainer.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/11/2007 7:06:47 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Yup. I agree. The Dems aren't, like usual, worried about the right or wrong of an issue, but how it will affect their power.

We keep reading about how the Repubs are split on the immigration issue, but the REAL split is with the Dems which is being covered up by the propagandistic MSM, but can't be contained forever.

3 posted on 11/11/2007 7:16:55 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: shrinkermd; Dane
Dane, the other day you asked how it was that the Repubs, with their strong anti-illegal stance lost in Virginia, inferring that voters aren't really against the invasion.

This is how it happened:

In Virginia, for instance, where Democrats took control of the state Senate, one high- profile victory came in the Washington suburbs, where the winner distributed mailings in the campaign's closing days proclaiming his opposition to in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.

4 posted on 11/11/2007 7:36:47 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Dang you beat me to it I wanted to rub the illegal lovers nose in it.


5 posted on 11/11/2007 8:00:59 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: shrinkermd
Well the former clitoon kook from Chicago said the other day that illegal immigration amnesty had become the third rail of politics just as SSI. Emanual something are the other.
6 posted on 11/11/2007 8:04:18 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: shrinkermd; HiJinx; gubamyster

I don’t see how the ‘rats can be perceived as “turning against hispanics.” They will be paralyzed by PC, while the country begins to focus on this difference between the parties, with Hillary for licenses for illegals etc.


7 posted on 11/11/2007 8:28:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: org.whodat
illegal immigration amnesty had become the third rail of politics

It is for political cowards only!

8 posted on 11/11/2007 8:33:59 AM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: melancholy

Yeah the DimmiRats will do what they always do, talk, talk, run a poll and pee in their pants ‘cause we know the game is up with their Open border/Illegal voting love affair. My what a predicament for the PC DRats!
Time to get the Hill in her Border Patrol pantsuit.


9 posted on 11/11/2007 8:39:13 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa
Time to get the Hill in her Border Patrol pantsuit.

LOL! It's about time, in any coming GOP/DEM debates, that the question:

Q: Do you agree on (fill in policy or law or action for/against) illegal aliens, YES OR NO? No nuances, ifs or buts about it.

A: Undocumented imm...INTERUPT; ILLEGAL ALIENS, YES OR NO? Don’t let them talk, if they don't like it, tough!

The results have to be stated clearly, i.e., candid X didn't answer yes or no, is refusing to acknowledge that illegals are not immigrants, rather, LAWBREAKERS!

It's time to go back to a simple, pure English and no more definitions of is, is............PERIOD.

I'm sick and tired of the cowards in both parties. Say what you mean and mean what you say!

10 posted on 11/11/2007 9:59:32 AM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


11 posted on 11/11/2007 4:52:21 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


12 posted on 11/11/2007 7:11:00 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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