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IMMIGRATION: A clash of cultures
Austin American Statesman ^ | 11.11.07 | Juan Castillo

Posted on 11/11/2007 9:20:09 AM PST by trumandogz

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21 posted on 11/11/2007 4:53:07 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: trumandogz

Some people will never understand- illegal is illegal. Immigration is fine with me- as long as one follows all the laws. I don’t think it is a culture clash- it is more like many are fed up with being walked on by lawbreakers!


22 posted on 11/11/2007 5:32:02 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: DoughtyOne; texastoo
I’m not convinced we can extrapolate widespread hispanic support for illegal immigration from these marches. The numbers in some of these marches are large, but the largest have more than hispanics marching. And as large as some of those marches are, there are litterally millions upon million who are not marching in solidarity with what is taking place.

They are not marching against them either. There is a tacit acceptance of illegals, as long they are hispanic, by the the legal hispanics in this country. To deny that is folly. There are some small groups that are speaking out against illegals from south of the border but they are drowned out. It's much like the Muslims here in the U.S. who won't speak out against radical Muslims around the world or against those here.

23 posted on 11/11/2007 6:01:27 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
His idea to deal with babies born to illegal immigrants would be for Oklahoma to refuse to issue a birth certificate, he said. Instead, the state would send an acknowledgement of birth to the U.S. embassy or consulate of the parents' nation of origin requesting a birth certificate.

Hallelujia! This is exactly what needs to be done. I appreciate that Duncan Hunter has put forth anchor baby legislation in the House, but it never gets anywhere. We need some legal precidents set in the states, so that national legislation can even be considered. I hope Oklahoma voters get behind this and support it. I wish more states would get on the band wagon, too.

24 posted on 11/11/2007 6:25:18 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: raybbr
There is a tacit acceptance of illegals, as long they are hispanic, by the the legal hispanics in this country.

I agree.

However, I have a good rapport with a number of Hispanics. They tell you how they feel. They are out in the open with this. Most of the times they rely on the "poor Mexican" excuse for me.

25 posted on 11/11/2007 6:25:41 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Elyse; Reaganwuzthebest
Hallelujia! This is exactly what needs to be done

Amen!

His idea to deal with babies born to illegal immigrants would be for Oklahoma to refuse to issue a birth certificate, he said. Instead, the state would send an acknowledgement of birth to the U.S. embassy or consulate of the parents' nation of origin requesting a birth certificate.

Hope you don't mind a repeat. We have almost 50 Mexican consulates in the US. Surely they can handle all the business (babies) for their people. After all, this is what V. Fox has been claiming all the time. These are his people.

26 posted on 11/11/2007 6:47:12 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: trumandogz
CLASH OF CULTURES:

People who have no respect for our laws and break them at will clash with people who respect and obey our laws.

Its that simple.


27 posted on 11/11/2007 7:00:30 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


28 posted on 11/11/2007 7:09:37 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: raybbr

Thanks for your comments on the subject. I appreciate them.


29 posted on 11/11/2007 7:17:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: Elyse; texastoo
Hallelujia! This is exactly what needs to be done.

What Randy Terrill and Oklahoma are doing should have been done years ago, thank goodness we're finally getting some positive action. I don't know how this USSC would rule on a 14th Amendment anchor baby challenge but I've got a good feeling they'll be open to interpreting the original intent and where its authors stated in debate that illegal aliens would not qualify. More than anything this major abuse has to be stopped.

30 posted on 11/11/2007 7:20:41 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

This is major abuse by illegals using babies, anchor babies. It is actually a pathetic use of a baby.


31 posted on 11/11/2007 10:41:20 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; Czar; hedgetrimmer; nicmarlo; janetgreen; Borax Queen; SwinneySwitch; ...

Read post #18. This is an excellent article about Oklahoma’s plan to deal with illegal aliens.

excerpt from postg #18

“His idea to deal with babies born to illegal immigrants would be for Oklahoma to refuse to issue a birth certificate, he said. Instead, the state would send an acknowledgement of birth to the U.S. embassy or consulate of the parents’ nation of origin requesting a birth certificate.

“That would set up the legal challenge because you would have unlawfully present, foreign national parents who would be suing the state of Oklahoma to try to get a birth certificate for a child who they would be claiming is a U.S. citizen,” he said. “


We have almost 50 consulates from Mexico in the US now. Surely they would want their babies to be Mexican citizens.


32 posted on 11/12/2007 1:39:37 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: yorkie; DumpsterDiver; HiJinx; Travis McGee; AuntB; dennisw

Read post #18.

excerpt:

“His idea to deal with babies born to illegal immigrants would be for Oklahoma to refuse to issue a birth certificate, he said. Instead, the state would send an acknowledgement of birth to the U.S. embassy or consulate of the parents’ nation of origin requesting a birth certificate.

“That would set up the legal challenge because you would have unlawfully present, foreign national parents who would be suing the state of Oklahoma to try to get a birth certificate for a child who they would be claiming is a U.S. citizen,” he said. “

This is an excellent idea that needs to hit Lou Dobbs and talk radio if it hasn’t already.


33 posted on 11/12/2007 1:50:08 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: trumandogz
"but the Mexican says, 'We're not Mexicans"
34 posted on 11/12/2007 1:58:30 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; texastoo; gubamyster; HiJinx; dennisw

Terrific idea at #18! For sure, this is worth exploring in detail.

Gracias para el pingo.


35 posted on 11/12/2007 1:58:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: texastoo

Thanks for the ping, TT!

Very good idea, withholding birth certificates from illegal immigrants. I’ll bet Parkland Hospital in Dallas would like to see a major change in TX, too! (70% of babies born there in the first three months of 2006, were born to illegal immigrants! Therefore, a major cost to the hospital, the county, the tax payers - not to mention hospital staff salaries.)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp


36 posted on 11/12/2007 2:07:53 PM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie

Somehow, we have to put a stop to the anchor babies. As I said, surely the Mexicans wants their babies to be Mexicans. Why not?


37 posted on 11/12/2007 2:12:34 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Travis McGee

You are welcome.


38 posted on 11/12/2007 2:13:34 PM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: texastoo

bttt


39 posted on 11/12/2007 2:32:44 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; Travis McGee
Legislator plans new reforms

Terrill, R-Moore, said he wants to crack down on so-called anchor babies, children whose mothers come to the United States to give birth. The U.S. Constitution states children born in this country are U.S. citizens.

His idea to deal with babies born to illegal immigrants would be for Oklahoma to refuse to issue a birth certificate, he said. Instead, the state would send an acknowledgement of birth to the U.S. embassy or consulate of the parents' nation of origin requesting a birth certificate.

"That would set up the legal challenge because you would have unlawfully present, foreign national parents who would be suing the state of Oklahoma to try to get a birth certificate for a child who they would be claiming is a U.S. citizen,” he said.

The immediate effect will be for illegal aliens to leave Okalahoma since this ruins their anchor baby scam. Why drop a baby in OK if it is going to be a hassle? So Oklahoma loses illegals and other states or Mexico get them.



40 posted on 11/12/2007 4:49:10 PM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
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